Paxton v. Cornyn v. Hunt

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Im Gipper
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Also, the Senate is putting the SAVE America bill up for vote next week. It's not going to pass, but everybody wanted Republicans to be on a record for their position.

Now this:



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Hubert J. Farnsworth
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Has Thune, or any of these other RINO clowns, said why they are against the Save America Act? Could it be that they like the current system because it keeps them in constant gridlock, which gives them an excuse to be pretty much useless? Are they afraid that without fraud, they could possibly win a super majority and actually have to govern?
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Im Gipper said:

I'm not sure what Trump will do, but I know what he said

Even than what you posted, he says that he is not going to sign the current version before the Senate. All of those things are not in there. Even if you ignore the transgender stuff, this bill does not have the portion about no mail in voting

I believe this clip is from today, where he again says it.





I admit that Trump can be a real a** at times, but I absolutely love it when he calls out these squishy Republicans in the legislature and puts the heat on them to get something done, especially when it should be a no brainer.

Most presidents back off during election season out of fear of the electorate. Trump leverages it to force Congress to get off their butts, quit making excuses, and accomplish something great for the American public.

Great Trump.
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

Has Thune, or any of these other RINO clowns, said why they are against the Save America Act? Could it be that they like the current system because it keeps them in constant gridlock, which gives them an excuse to be pretty much useless?

More than that. Gridlock allows each side to point at the other for not stopping money laundering while both groups are stealing our money.
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

Has Thune, or any of these other RINO clowns, said why they are against the Save America Act? Could it be that they like the current system because it keeps them in constant gridlock, which gives them an excuse to be pretty much useless? Are they afraid that without fraud, they could possibly win a super majority and actually have to govern?


Thune has said he's in support of the law, but they don't have the votes to force the talking filibuster, and no Dems are flipping outside of maybe Fetterman so 60 isnt going to happen either. At this point he just needs to bring it to a vote to put everyone on record.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5777802-talking-filibuster-gop-debate/amp/

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But other GOP senators, including Thune, are warning the more likely result is that the Senate floor would be paralyzed for weeks or even months and that it won't result in a legislative victory.

Thune said his staff can't find any "piece of legislation in history" that's been passed by grinding out a legislative wind by voting to table dozens or scores of dilatory amendments and waiting out days or weeks of floor debate.

"What people don't realize, I think, is that's unlimited debate but it's also unlimited amendments," he explained earlier in the week.

GOP sources say that under current precedent, offering amendments to the SAVE Act would allow Democrats to debate the legislation without limit potentially tying up the floor for the rest of the year.

The animated debate behind closed doors on Tuesday failed to change any minds within the GOP conference, according to Republican senators who attended the meeting.

"We don't have the votes either to proceed, get on a talking filibuster nor sustain one if we got on it, but that's just a function of math, and there isn't anything I can do about that," Thune told reporters after the lunch.
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BarnacleBill said:

We sure about that? Here is what Trump said last week:

"It supersedes everything else. MUST GO TO THE FRONT OF THE LINE. I, as President, will not sign other Bills until this is passed, AND NOT THE WATERED DOWN VERSION GO FOR THE GOLD: MUST SHOW VOTER I.D. & PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP: NO MAIL-IN BALLOTS EXCEPT FOR MILITARY ILLNESS, DISABILITY, TRAVEL: NO MEN IN WOMEN'S SPORTS: NO TRANSGENDER MUTILIZATION FOR CHILDREN! DO NOT FAIL!!!"

I'm having a hard time finding what the "watered down version" is, and of course nothing is up for a vote. But I'll amend what I said earlier, if Trump signs it before the runoff it I'll vote Cornyn.

But I think this is all moot. Science Denier likely right that Senate leadership has no intention of passing this, and I get the feeling they would sooner sacrifice Cornyn than do so. It's likely Cornyn is now scared and is in "con the rubes" mode. Personally I'm not buying it unless it is done.


So is he going to veto all other legislation. Because if he just refuses to sign something it still becomes law after so many days.
TrumpsBarber
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Trump told Thune to hold them by the nose and kick them in the ass. That is how politicians get things done in Congress.
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TrumpsBarber said:

Trump told Thune to hold them by the nose and kick them in the ass. That is how politicians get things done in Congress.

I just want to hear their justifications for not voting for it. If they parrot the Dem talking points well, if it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck, you know the rest.
Im Gipper
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Every Republican but Murkowski is going to vote for the bill.

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TrumpsBarber said:

Trump told Thune to hold them by the nose and kick them in the ass. That is how politicians get things done in Congress.


You know why he didn't say kick them in the balls right?
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BMX Bandit said:

hope that guy next to cornyn learned to tie a tie.


The guy on the right?
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American Hardwood said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

His record and comments speak for themselves. He's often on the wrong side.

Paxton is no more immoral than this charlatan. Cornyn doesn't even represent his own constituents. There is nothing he can point to that would justify his getting my vote.

I put it this way:

I would rather have someone in office that betrays his wife than someone who betrays his country.

Anyone who craves power as much as these guys do is an immoral sociopath, pretty much by definition.

So voting comes down to picking the immoral sociopath that will vote the way you want them to.

Cornyn ain't that guy, and we have years of proof.
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Im Gipper said:

Every Republican but Murkowski is going to vote for the bill.

She would vote against having an orgasm if her party was for it.
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4 said:

Im Gipper said:

Every Republican but Murkowski is going to vote for the bill.

She would vote against having an orgasm if her party was for it.

Her party? The Democrats elect her thanks to ranked voting in Alaska.
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Zapata23
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It’s never too late
Ag87H2O
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Typical politician. When yo get exposed, distract and shift blame.

Sorry John boy. Your obfuscations aren't going to work this time.
Mrs. FishrCoAg
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Cornyn has been awful as a public speaker. He can't speak off the cuff at all.
Ellis Wyatt
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Cornyn is a liar and a fraud. He's no conservative.

Maybe he can become a state rep and have the republican leadership and democrat reps make him Speaker. That would be about par for the course.
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Squadron7
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Don't like Paxton. But how can you look at Cornyn and not see Thune?
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Love this. These politicians think us little guys are idiots and that we aren't smart enough to know how they voted or that we are just to stupid to have our own opinions.

I don't get abandoning your base to lean left and pander to Muslims, gun control advocates, and pro illegal immigration.
Zapata23
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It’s never too late
Gaeilge
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Thought they said today it was moved up to tomorrow?
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RINO's are worse than liberals IMO. At least liberals tell you how crazy they are. RINO's lie to your face about what they're going to do, then they don't do it when you kind of believe them. .
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RINO's are liberals and I agree they are more insidious than Dems because they try to make you believe they aren't liberal . Cornyn is one of the poster children for this MO.

This is why the primaries are so important. Even if you don't primary a RINO you force them to pull right on the record but the better scenario is of course you primary them in favor of more conservative candidates. I can't tell you how many conservative voters I talk to that are unaware of this and don't even vote in the primaries. They reliably vote R in general elections but don't understand they could be so much more effective if they would take part in selecting Constitutional conservatives to run in the general elections.
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Fact check; also true. The silence from Thune-Cornyn et al. Toward Murk/turtle etc. is deafening. Scalding outrage should be directed toward them, and I don't give a crap about comity/decorum etc. at this point.

But we all know why.
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Whenever Cornyn or his team posts, they're getting absolutely ratioed into oblivion. I truly hope someone has Trump's ear and he understands how betrayed all of us would feel if he endorsed Cornyn. Move Cornyn out of the way. Give him an ambassador's gig or something. Allow him to save some face and go away.
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agcrock2005 said:

RINO's are worse than liberals IMO. At least liberals tell you how crazy they are. RINO's lie to your face about what they're going to do, then they don't do it when you kind of believe them. .

The enemy inside the camp can often do a lot more lasting damage than the one on the outside. That's why treason is a high crime.

Cornyn has been sabotaging good legislation for most of time he has been in Washington, and because of it he has been able to build a powerbase that has exerted tremendous power over the Republican machinery in the state, thus assuring he gets weak opponents. We finally have a primary candidate that can beat him. Conservatives in Texas need to get behind Paxton and put an end to the Cornyn era.
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Ambassador to Matamoros sounds like a good gig for Johnny.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

Ambassador to Matamoros sounds like a good gig for Johnny.

What did Matamoros do to you?
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Touche
Danny Vermin
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Ellis Wyatt said:

Ambassador to Matamoros sounds like a good gig for Johnny.


I feel so bad for the nice people of that little town. It was a great place to go during spring break way back in the late 80s while waiting for Padre to get cranked up. They were so appreciative of us coming there and spending our money.
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God forbid Cornyn gets reelected, he's not going to be more conservative, it's only going to be worse.
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BCOBQ98 said:

God forbid Cornyn gets reelected, he's not going to be more conservative, it's only going to be worse.

****er would probably switch parties
 
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