Losing the Midterms

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Farmer_J said:

BrazosDog02 said:

Impacts of losing midterms:

For people with their nose buried in the news and hand wringing over every detail of politics: depression, stress induced increase in blood pressure, angry F16 posting.

For everyone that lives life and owns a businesses: Nothing. We go about our day because politics really don't impact us in a way that alters our life.


So apathetic and ignorant. After what we went through when Dems controlled congress. Hard to believe people still saying it won't affect them.



I've lived through 3 generations of old codgers complaining about politicians. The ones that failed wallowed in self misery and blamed the government for things like shutdowns, dems, libtards, etc. That's a failing attitude. Gubmint does not have any bearing in my success or failure. Only I do.

I spent all of COVID working ass off while others *****ed and moaned about how the government failed them. Because of my effort, COVID years were some of the most profitable. Ive done that for 4 presidents and 20+ years.

My advice is that If the government affects your life so much that you think dem vs rep makes a single bit of practical difference in your day to day, then you need to evaluate how you operate and perhaps get a better CPA.

I'm telling you, the president and party in power isn't affecting life like folks think it is.
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Courtesy Flush said:

Let's assume that the Republicans don't do well in the midterm elections which is historically what always happens after 2 years of single-party rule. What is the downside from a public policy / legislative perspective? Nothing of substance ever gets done in congress without a 60 vote majority in the Senate anyway. Sure, Trump will be impeached but that's a toothless tiger - nobody cares and just makes the Dems look crazy. I am wondering if 2 years of a Democratic congress won't put the Republican's in a better position to win back Congress and the Presidency in 2028. If that's the case, Trump should hold firm on Iran, ICE and the other more challenging agenda items and get as much done in the next 3 years as possible.

It's Trump's economy and Trump's warmongering. This will continue to reflect on MAGA and the Republicans even with Democratic majorities of both houses.

There's no doubt that Trump will blame it on the Democrats, but like it or not, the President is responsible for those, not Congress.
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ActBlue has been exposed by the NYT times taking money, lots of it, from foreign actors and other issues that are criminal in nature.

Sorry, but the Dems are headed for a wipeout in the midterm. The exposures are just beginning.

Bondi leaving is the worst thing to happen to Dems in a long, long time.

Buckle up cupcakes. Trump has grabbed the wheel of the Winning Beast and he is about to go on a real rampage, not the ***** footing he has done in VZ and Iran.
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BrazosDog02 said:

Farmer_J said:

BrazosDog02 said:

Impacts of losing midterms:

For people with their nose buried in the news and hand wringing over every detail of politics: depression, stress induced increase in blood pressure, angry F16 posting.

For everyone that lives life and owns a businesses: Nothing. We go about our day because politics really don't impact us in a way that alters our life.


So apathetic and ignorant. After what we went through when Dems controlled congress. Hard to believe people still saying it won't affect them.



I've lived through 3 generations of old codgers complaining about politicians. The ones that failed wallowed in self misery and blamed the government for things like shutdowns, dems, libtards, etc. That's a failing attitude. Gubmint does not have any bearing in my success or failure. Only I do.

I spent all of COVID working ass off while others *****ed and moaned about how the government failed them. Because of my effort, COVID years were some of the most profitable. Ive done that for 4 presidents and 20+ years.

My advice is that If the government affects your life so much that you think dem vs rep makes a single bit of practical difference in your day to day, then you need to evaluate how you operate and perhaps get a better CPA.

I'm telling you, the president and party in power isn't affecting life like folks think it is.


That really used to be the case but no longer. The party in power now does have the ability to wreck our communities and lives.

For example:
The 4 years of the Biden Admin plus 15 million new illegal aliens including many many criminals is not something that is repaired
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eric76 said:

Courtesy Flush said:

Let's assume that the Republicans don't do well in the midterm elections which is historically what always happens after 2 years of single-party rule. What is the downside from a public policy / legislative perspective? Nothing of substance ever gets done in congress without a 60 vote majority in the Senate anyway. Sure, Trump will be impeached but that's a toothless tiger - nobody cares and just makes the Dems look crazy. I am wondering if 2 years of a Democratic congress won't put the Republican's in a better position to win back Congress and the Presidency in 2028. If that's the case, Trump should hold firm on Iran, ICE and the other more challenging agenda items and get as much done in the next 3 years as possible.

It's Trump's economy and Trump's warmongering. This will continue to reflect on MAGA and the Republicans even with Democratic majorities of both houses.

There's no doubt that Trump will blame it on the Democrats, but like it or not, the President is responsible for those, not Congress.

People like you want to blame "both sides" when Democrats own the economy like under Biden, but conveniently change your tune when a Republican is President.

What exactly makes the actions with Iran "warmongering"? You may disagree with the policy decision, but that seems like a rather reactionary response for someone who claims to be above the fray.
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I don't think it's really a matter of "if" at this point. With that said, considering that republicans are democrat-lite, not much will actually change. The only difference will be Trump having an excuse (blaming the democrats) to lean on for not getting anything done. He'll also blame the loss on the Save Act not getting passed rather than the terrible decisions he's made these past two years. You can't start an unjustified war, wrecking the economy in the process, and expect to come out unscathed.
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BrazosDog02 said:

Farmer_J said:

BrazosDog02 said:

Impacts of losing midterms:

For people with their nose buried in the news and hand wringing over every detail of politics: depression, stress induced increase in blood pressure, angry F16 posting.

For everyone that lives life and owns a businesses: Nothing. We go about our day because politics really don't impact us in a way that alters our life.


So apathetic and ignorant. After what we went through when Dems controlled congress. Hard to believe people still saying it won't affect them.



I've lived through 3 generations of old codgers complaining about politicians. The ones that failed wallowed in self misery and blamed the government for things like shutdowns, dems, libtards, etc. That's a failing attitude. Gubmint does not have any bearing in my success or failure. Only I do.

I spent all of COVID working ass off while others *****ed and moaned about how the government failed them. Because of my effort, COVID years were some of the most profitable. Ive done that for 4 presidents and 20+ years.

My advice is that If the government affects your life so much that you think dem vs rep makes a single bit of practical difference in your day to day, then you need to evaluate how you operate and perhaps get a better CPA.

I'm telling you, the president and party in power isn't affecting life like folks think it is.


Are you tarted?

Flooding the country with twenty million third world immigrants didn't make a difference.

Giving all our tech jobs to h1b isas didn't have an effect?

Four years of impeaching the president?

Every social media company censoring the right or even moderates who tried to say something true?

There wasn't enough trans propaganda for you to notice?

What about covid lockdowns?

You really need to rethink things.. this isn't 1980 anymore.
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itsyourboypookie said:

How could they do good in the midterms? $5 gas doesn't win elections.

The only good news is the paid protestors are no longer bothering ICE


How do they not understand it's the economy stupid?
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jja79 said:

itsyourboypookie said:

How could they do good in the midterms? $5 gas doesn't win elections.

The only good news is the paid protestors are no longer bothering ICE


How do they not understand it's the economy stupid?

It may be the economy, but stupid is taking an April economy to project a November result. Thats diabolically stupid.
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BrazosDog02 said:

Impacts of losing midterms:

For people with their nose buried in the news and hand wringing over every detail of politics: depression, stress induced increase in blood pressure, angry F16 posting.

For everyone that lives life and owns a businesses: Nothing. We go about our day because politics really don't impact us in a way that alters our life.


Politics effects most businesses. If you're in a line of business that isn't affected by politics, consider yourself fortunate.
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Gigem314 said:

eric76 said:

Courtesy Flush said:

Let's assume that the Republicans don't do well in the midterm elections which is historically what always happens after 2 years of single-party rule. What is the downside from a public policy / legislative perspective? Nothing of substance ever gets done in congress without a 60 vote majority in the Senate anyway. Sure, Trump will be impeached but that's a toothless tiger - nobody cares and just makes the Dems look crazy. I am wondering if 2 years of a Democratic congress won't put the Republican's in a better position to win back Congress and the Presidency in 2028. If that's the case, Trump should hold firm on Iran, ICE and the other more challenging agenda items and get as much done in the next 3 years as possible.

It's Trump's economy and Trump's warmongering. This will continue to reflect on MAGA and the Republicans even with Democratic majorities of both houses.

There's no doubt that Trump will blame it on the Democrats, but like it or not, the President is responsible for those, not Congress.

People like you want to blame "both sides" when Democrats own the economy like under Biden, but conveniently change your tune when a Republican is President.

That's a lie.

I blame both when they are wrong.

In this case, it isnt' even a question of blame. It is a question of how voters see the administration. It applies to every President.

Do you remember in 1980 when then candidate Ronald Reagan asked " Are you better off than you were four years ago?"

At the midterms, the Democrats might reasonable ask "Are you better off then you were two years ago?" Unless something changes enormously by then, most of the population are not likely to consider themselves better off then two years ago.

For that matter, look at the special elections in the last year. What we are seeing does not bode at all well for the Republican Party in the midterms.
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flown-the-coop said:

jja79 said:

itsyourboypookie said:

How could they do good in the midterms? $5 gas doesn't win elections.

The only good news is the paid protestors are no longer bothering ICE


How do they not understand it's the economy stupid?

It may be the economy, but stupid is taking an April economy to project a November result. Thats diabolically stupid.


I live in a hard red area and people are mad. The people in the middle are being lost.
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I think the regret is also setting in that this is the full extent of their movement.

You have sky high debt, an unstable economy, oil shocks and unemployment due to unchecked automation.

This is it. All 40 years of conservatism lead to this. Imagine working for decades waiting for something to achieve final form and then it turns out to just be a corpulent blowhard that lies a lot and is possibly criminally linked to a famous pedophile. Strange times.
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Gasoline is $5 and diesel is $6.20 where I live. Has nothing to do with party. The party in power with this situation has very little chance to win.
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BrazosDog02 said:

Farmer_J said:

BrazosDog02 said:

Impacts of losing midterms:

For people with their nose buried in the news and hand wringing over every detail of politics: depression, stress induced increase in blood pressure, angry F16 posting.

For everyone that lives life and owns a businesses: Nothing. We go about our day because politics really don't impact us in a way that alters our life.


So apathetic and ignorant. After what we went through when Dems controlled congress. Hard to believe people still saying it won't affect them.



I've lived through 3 generations of old codgers complaining about politicians. The ones that failed wallowed in self misery and blamed the government for things like shutdowns, dems, libtards, etc. That's a failing attitude. Gubmint does not have any bearing in my success or failure. Only I do.

I spent all of COVID working ass off while others *****ed and moaned about how the government failed them. Because of my effort, COVID years were some of the most profitable. Ive done that for 4 presidents and 20+ years.

My advice is that If the government affects your life so much that you think dem vs rep makes a single bit of practical difference in your day to day, then you need to evaluate how you operate and perhaps get a better CPA.

I'm telling you, the president and party in power isn't affecting life like folks think it is.

I agree with the spirit of your post I guess but disagree with your overall point. The party in charge absolutely can affect your life by way- as others have said- the economy. The price of oil, the inflation level, and jobs are the main aspects. The GOP (the party in power) is not doing anything to address any of these issues, and in fact is engaging in actions which make them worse (more war, more spending, more H1-B, not deporting).

I appreciate you are older and worked hard all your life, but we have Americans who cannot find work and cannot afford anything and I am not sure that "get a better CPA" is appropriate advice for them
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Hmmmm, 178,000 found work last month. Did we see that at any point from the beginning of the Biden presidency to the end?

Bunch of doom & gloom folks here, most pissed because they can't figure out how to be better.

I think the Republican Party fares better than most think simply because the other party doesn't have jack **** to offer. And you should be embarrassed for supporting those folks.
Ronnie '88
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I don't think anyone is supporting the democrats here. Just pointing out the hole the Republicans need to dig out of in short order.
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Keyno said:

BrazosDog02 said:

Farmer_J said:

BrazosDog02 said:

Impacts of losing midterms:

For people with their nose buried in the news and hand wringing over every detail of politics: depression, stress induced increase in blood pressure, angry F16 posting.

For everyone that lives life and owns a businesses: Nothing. We go about our day because politics really don't impact us in a way that alters our life.


So apathetic and ignorant. After what we went through when Dems controlled congress. Hard to believe people still saying it won't affect them.



I've lived through 3 generations of old codgers complaining about politicians. The ones that failed wallowed in self misery and blamed the government for things like shutdowns, dems, libtards, etc. That's a failing attitude. Gubmint does not have any bearing in my success or failure. Only I do.

I spent all of COVID working ass off while others *****ed and moaned about how the government failed them. Because of my effort, COVID years were some of the most profitable. Ive done that for 4 presidents and 20+ years.

My advice is that If the government affects your life so much that you think dem vs rep makes a single bit of practical difference in your day to day, then you need to evaluate how you operate and perhaps get a better CPA.

I'm telling you, the president and party in power isn't affecting life like folks think it is.

I agree with the spirit of your post I guess but disagree with your overall point. The party in charge absolutely can affect your life by way- as others have said- the economy. The price of oil, the inflation level, and jobs are the main aspects. The GOP (the party in power) is not doing anything to address any of these issues, and in fact is engaging in actions which make them worse (more war, more spending, more H1-B, not deporting).

I appreciate you are older and worked hard all your life, but we have Americans who cannot find work and cannot afford anything and I am not sure that "get a better CPA" is appropriate advice for them


Why not?

I say that with all due respect.

What is it with current politics that is directly preventing someone from getting g a job? I'm saying that from someone who tried for over a year to get. A job and "couldn't" before I said enough. It wasn't Obamas fault I lost my job and I'm certainly not employed currently by Trump.
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jja79 said:

flown-the-coop said:

jja79 said:

itsyourboypookie said:

How could they do good in the midterms? $5 gas doesn't win elections.

The only good news is the paid protestors are no longer bothering ICE


How do they not understand it's the economy stupid?

It may be the economy, but stupid is taking an April economy to project a November result. Thats diabolically stupid.


I live in a hard red area and people are mad. The people in the middle are being lost.

It's April 4th.
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flown-the-coop said:

jja79 said:

flown-the-coop said:

jja79 said:

itsyourboypookie said:

How could they do good in the midterms? $5 gas doesn't win elections.

The only good news is the paid protestors are no longer bothering ICE


How do they not understand it's the economy stupid?

It may be the economy, but stupid is taking an April economy to project a November result. Thats diabolically stupid.


I live in a hard red area and people are mad. The people in the middle are being lost.

It's April 4th.

If it was April 4, 2025, then you may have a point. We're going to get smoked.
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Too funny. I went ahead and voted for Talarico because my flight was delayed yesterday and Ted Cruz once went on vacation when it was cold.

Solid logic.

People predicting elections in April based on some very volatile economic data and geopolitical reshuffling.

And Trump has his proverbial card up his makeup stained sleeves.

We celebrate 250 years of being a Country with massive celebrations and events planned. Trump is a showman and will be doing what he does best.

I get that a lot of people are a bit nervous. But to take some jitters in April for a November election? Cmon son.
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On April 4 the GOP is losing good will with voters. If you can't see that I don't know what to tell you. A bunch of festivities aren't going to change that. Middle class voters that were paying $40 to fill up and now paying $65 don't care about 250 year celebrations. People watching their investment accounts shrinking don't want a Trump parade.
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Last years Army event was a snooze fest not sure Trump is still that showman he once was
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jja79 said:

On April 4 the GOP is losing good will with voters. If you can't see that I don't know what to tell you. A bunch of festivities aren't going to change that. Middle class voters that were paying $40 to fill up and now paying $65 don't care about 250 year celebrations. People watching their investment accounts shrinking don't want a Trump parade.


So April 15th is tax day, not Election Day.

If you cannot look at the calendar and see that there are not 7 MONTHS, not 7 days to erections and you are quivering about paying $25 extra dollars every couple of weeks, then fear is your friend and worry is your mistress.

Be strong, Rs roll to a super majority in November.
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Sq 17 said:

Last years Army event was a snooze fest not sure Trump is still that showman he once was

Sure.

Guess we will see.

Oh, and FIFA on our turf. f1 race through DC. UFC on WH lawn?

Yea, he's def lost a few steps.
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Okay you're not a serious poster. I get it. You're dad is rich and you have his credit card. I'm just telling you what I hear when im out and about. People that voted Trump 3 times aren't happy. People with 3 kids and concern about their jobs do care about spending $25 extra to fill up. I loath everything about the democrats but Trump is teeing this up for them.

Can it get better? Sure but Trump seems tone deaf.
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flown-the-coop said:

jja79 said:

On April 4 the GOP is losing good will with voters. If you can't see that I don't know what to tell you. A bunch of festivities aren't going to change that. Middle class voters that were paying $40 to fill up and now paying $65 don't care about 250 year celebrations. People watching their investment accounts shrinking don't want a Trump parade.


So April 15th is tax day, not Election Day.

If you cannot look at the calendar and see that there are not 7 MONTHS, not 7 days to erections and you are quivering about paying $25 extra dollars every couple of weeks, then fear is your friend and worry is your mistress.

Be strong, Rs roll to a super majority in November.

Lol.

I gotta say, I admire your commitment to Trump and the GOP. You are truly a remarkable Republican partisan. You certainly have your work cut out for you in the next 7 months defending Trump and the GOP.
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jja79 said:

On April 4 the GOP is losing good will with voters. If you can't see that I don't know what to tell you. A bunch of festivities aren't going to change that. Middle class voters that were paying $40 to fill up and now paying $65 don't care about 250 year celebrations. People watching their investment accounts shrinking don't want a Trump parade.

The "price to fill up" gas prices is not even the worst of it. The price of oil going up makes literally everything more expensive.
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I think the Democrats will regain control of the House, but I hope the Republicans maintain control of the Senate. We can't afford to lose control of the Senate because a Democratic majority in the Senate would confirm radical liberal judges in the U.S. District Courts and other federal courts.
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Iraq2xVeteran said:

I think the Democrats will regain control of the House, but I hope the Republicans maintain control of the Senate. We can't afford to lose control of the Senate because a Democratic majority in the Senate would confirm radical liberal judges in the U.S. District Courts and other federal courts.


You do know that all federal judges are appointed by the President? It might slow down approving judges but I doubt Trump would nominate radical liberal judges.
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Iraq2xVeteran said:

I think the Democrats will regain control of the House, but I hope the Republicans maintain control of the Senate. We can't afford to lose control of the Senate because a Democratic majority in the Senate would confirm radical liberal judges in the U.S. District Courts and other federal courts.

The GOP deserves to lose. We voted for mass deportations and no more Forever War. Instead we got the exact opposite- a continuation of Forever War (Iran edition) and no mass deportations. Maybe next time the GOP will actually work for their base instead of their donors/foreign interests (but I doubt it).
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eric76 said:

Gigem314 said:

eric76 said:

Courtesy Flush said:

Let's assume that the Republicans don't do well in the midterm elections which is historically what always happens after 2 years of single-party rule. What is the downside from a public policy / legislative perspective? Nothing of substance ever gets done in congress without a 60 vote majority in the Senate anyway. Sure, Trump will be impeached but that's a toothless tiger - nobody cares and just makes the Dems look crazy. I am wondering if 2 years of a Democratic congress won't put the Republican's in a better position to win back Congress and the Presidency in 2028. If that's the case, Trump should hold firm on Iran, ICE and the other more challenging agenda items and get as much done in the next 3 years as possible.

It's Trump's economy and Trump's warmongering. This will continue to reflect on MAGA and the Republicans even with Democratic majorities of both houses.

There's no doubt that Trump will blame it on the Democrats, but like it or not, the President is responsible for those, not Congress.

People like you want to blame "both sides" when Democrats own the economy like under Biden, but conveniently change your tune when a Republican is President.

That's a lie.

I blame both when they are wrong.

In this case, it isnt' even a question of blame. It is a question of how voters see the administration. It applies to every President.

Do you remember in 1980 when then candidate Ronald Reagan asked " Are you better off than you were four years ago?"

At the midterms, the Democrats might reasonable ask "Are you better off then you were two years ago?" Unless something changes enormously by then, most of the population are not likely to consider themselves better off then two years ago.

For that matter, look at the special elections in the last year. What we are seeing does not bode at all well for the Republican Party in the midterms.
It's not a lie. You took a break for a while when Trump won but you spent the entire Biden Administration on here pretending like Trump was still responsible for everything and scolding Republican voters.

And "better off than 2 years ago" is subjective. Especially when you consider how bad things were 2 years ago.

It is historically expected for the incumbent party to lose seats in the mid terms. Rarely do things deviate from that trend.
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Keyno said:

jja79 said:

On April 4 the GOP is losing good will with voters. If you can't see that I don't know what to tell you. A bunch of festivities aren't going to change that. Middle class voters that were paying $40 to fill up and now paying $65 don't care about 250 year celebrations. People watching their investment accounts shrinking don't want a Trump parade.

The "price to fill up" gas prices is not even the worst of it. The price of oil going up makes literally everything more expensive.


I'm trying to keep it simple for junior.
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Gigem314 said:

eric76 said:

Gigem314 said:

eric76 said:

Courtesy Flush said:

Let's assume that the Republicans don't do well in the midterm elections which is historically what always happens after 2 years of single-party rule. What is the downside from a public policy / legislative perspective? Nothing of substance ever gets done in congress without a 60 vote majority in the Senate anyway. Sure, Trump will be impeached but that's a toothless tiger - nobody cares and just makes the Dems look crazy. I am wondering if 2 years of a Democratic congress won't put the Republican's in a better position to win back Congress and the Presidency in 2028. If that's the case, Trump should hold firm on Iran, ICE and the other more challenging agenda items and get as much done in the next 3 years as possible.

It's Trump's economy and Trump's warmongering. This will continue to reflect on MAGA and the Republicans even with Democratic majorities of both houses.

There's no doubt that Trump will blame it on the Democrats, but like it or not, the President is responsible for those, not Congress.

People like you want to blame "both sides" when Democrats own the economy like under Biden, but conveniently change your tune when a Republican is President.

That's a lie.

I blame both when they are wrong.

In this case, it isnt' even a question of blame. It is a question of how voters see the administration. It applies to every President.

Do you remember in 1980 when then candidate Ronald Reagan asked " Are you better off than you were four years ago?"

At the midterms, the Democrats might reasonable ask "Are you better off then you were two years ago?" Unless something changes enormously by then, most of the population are not likely to consider themselves better off then two years ago.

For that matter, look at the special elections in the last year. What we are seeing does not bode at all well for the Republican Party in the midterms.

It's not a lie. You took a break for a while when Trump won but you spent the entire Biden Administration on here pretending like Trump was still responsible for everything and scolding Republican voters.

And "better off than 2 years ago" is subjective. Especially when you consider how bad things were 2 years ago.

It is historically expected for the incumbent party to lose seats in the mid terms. Rarely do things deviate from that trend.

Like when Biden badly followed Trump's incompetent plan to withdraw from Afghanistan?

Bad plan. Bad execution.
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jja79 said:

Okay you're not a serious poster. I get it. You're dad is rich and you have his credit card. I'm just telling you what I hear when im out and about. People that voted Trump 3 times aren't happy. People with 3 kids and concern about their jobs do care about spending $25 extra to fill up. I loath everything about the democrats but Trump is teeing this up for them.

Can it get better? Sure but Trump seems tone deaf.


No, I am quite serious. My bold prediction on the deficit has a little hyperbole in it but that's to counter the pearl clutchers peeing down their legs.

I have been very blessed in life but it didn't come from Daddy's credit card. He walked out the back door 25 years ago and put a bullet through the back of his mouth. Before that he grew up the son of tenant farmers right in the good ol Brazos Valley. But before he succumbed to a long battle with depression, he made sure I also went to college as he did, and knew the value of a dollar and how to save for the future.

So at 48 I can work if I want to or travel the world with my family. I made the sacrifices and put in the hard work to get to this place. That and being blessed.

Again, I will remind you 7 months is a long time. And again my anecdotal do not show 3 time Trump voters packing their bags for the lib reeducation camps after they wallop the Rs on the midterms.

I really hope we have stronger people in this Country but it seems like the backbones have been removed from many… but only if you believe the doomsdayors of f16.
 
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