93MarineHorn said:

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Compelling argument, OP.

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I guess we might as well endorse Lukashenko in the next election

Op, I think you answered your own question.

93MarineHorn said:

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docb said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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Compelling argument, OP.

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I guess we might as well endorse Lukashenko in the next election

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Maybe you could expand on why we shouldn't support Orban. Can you go beyond globalist buzzwords and tired cliches about fascism and saving democracy? Once again, the people that are bleeding all over about democracy being lost get another ELECTION to vote for a different guy.

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He has been the entry point of Chinese influence into Europe. Do you trust China or think they are our friend? Honestly I think they are the one enemy that we really need to worry about.

docb said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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docb said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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Compelling argument, OP.

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I guess we might as well endorse Lukashenko in the next election

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Maybe you could expand on why we shouldn't support Orban. Can you go beyond globalist buzzwords and tired cliches about fascism and saving democracy? Once again, the people that are bleeding all over about democracy being lost get another ELECTION to vote for a different guy.

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He has been the entry point of Chinese influence into Europe. Do you trust China or think they are our friend? Honestly I think they are the one enemy that we really need to worry about.

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So, kinda like Hungary's version of Biden?

93MarineHorn said:

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docb said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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docb said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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Compelling argument, OP.

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I guess we might as well endorse Lukashenko in the next election

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Maybe you could expand on why we shouldn't support Orban. Can you go beyond globalist buzzwords and tired cliches about fascism and saving democracy? Once again, the people that are bleeding all over about democracy being lost get another ELECTION to vote for a different guy.

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He has been the entry point of Chinese influence into Europe. Do you trust China or think they are our friend? Honestly I think they are the one enemy that we really need to worry about.

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So, kinda like Hungary's version of Biden?

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Maybe so. Are you endorsing Biden now?

Over_ed said:

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Orban is more pro moscow and anti Brussels (EU). Orban and party is pretty corrupt.

Opponent (Magyar) is more pro EU and anti Russia.

Neither smell like perfume.

I would tend to support Orban.

• Moscow is not our problem and will be overwhelmed due to Putin's idiocies.
• The EU is more of a danger, they threaten to finish off the Europe with their political authoritarianism and immigration stance.

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flights to Moscow to live under your communist ideals leave daily

His name is literally Peter Hungarian LOL.

His ex-wife was the justice minister who pardoned a pedophile in the run up to the 2024 elections. She was forced to resign along with the President. Magyar said he was leaving politics. Then the money dried up and he got back in. He's no better.

docb said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/video/6392680313112

why are we supporting this fat clown? His biggest allies are Russia and China.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2026/apr/07/jd-vance-budapest-viktor-orban-hungary-election-france-nicolas-sarkozy-denmark-coalition-russia-ukraine-europe-latest-updates-news

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This administration, and more importantly, those backing it, support Orban because his foreign and domestic policy priorities align with theirs. Both MAGA and Project 2025, abstractly.

He's pro-Russian (which is interesting if you know what happened in Hungary in 1956, but also 1848 when Tsarist Russia invaded and destroyed their bid for independence) and anti-EU. Which is to say he's pro-authoritarian and anti-democracy...more Project 2025 then MAGA.

He's pro-natalist...women should have more and more and more children. Granted his country (like Russia) has been losing population badly for some time. But his policies here have been a dismal failure.

Anti-minority, specifically the Roma who he has targeted rather aggressively. Anti-immigration. Two very popular positions with the American far-Right.

Anti-education, esp. higher education. This one strikes a major chord with the American far-Right.

Conspiracy theorist, suffers from "Soros Derangement Syndrome." That's a big one too for MAGA.

So not difficult at all to see how the current administration adores this man and what he stands for.

Over_ed said:

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Orban is more pro moscow and anti Brussels (EU). Orban and party is pretty corrupt.

Opponent (Magyar) is more pro EU and anti Russia.

Neither smell like perfume.

I would tend to support Orban.

• Moscow is not our problem and will be overwhelmed due to Putin's idiocies.
• The EU is more of a danger, they threaten to finish off the Europe with their political authoritarianism and immigration stance.

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The EU is working with the US to continue forever wars that impoverishes the west. It supports endless reckless immigration which, again, impoverishes the west, and sets up China. It supports net zero which, one more time, impoverishes the west and sets up China.

FlyRod said:

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docb said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/video/6392680313112

why are we supporting this fat clown? His biggest allies are Russia and China.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2026/apr/07/jd-vance-budapest-viktor-orban-hungary-election-france-nicolas-sarkozy-denmark-coalition-russia-ukraine-europe-latest-updates-news

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This administration, and more importantly, those backing it, support Orban because his foreign and domestic policy priorities align with theirs. Both MAGA and Project 2025, abstractly.

He's pro-Russian (which is interesting if you know what happened in Hungary in 1956, but also 1848 when Tsarist Russia invaded and destroyed their bid for independence) and anti-EU. Which is to say he's pro-authoritarian and anti-democracy...more Project 2025 then MAGA.

He's pro-natalist...women should have more and more and more children. Granted his country (like Russia) has been losing population badly for some time. But his policies here have been a dismal failure.

Anti-minority, specifically the Roma who he has targeted rather aggressively. Anti-immigration. Two very popular positions with the American far-Right.

Anti-education, esp. higher education. This one strikes a major chord with the American far-Right.

Conspiracy theorist, suffers from "Soros Derangement Syndrome." That's a big one too for MAGA.

So not difficult at all to see how the current administration adores this man and what he stands for.

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Others have corrected you on some of these but you are calling out pro-natalist as a bad thing? Continuing the human existence and avoiding extinction of your country is supposed to be a negative? Yes, from what I've read his policies haven't worked here but that's probably more a function of selfish human behavior. I say this as someone who does not have kids so I'm not helping matters.

Also, there is nothing far-right at all about curtailing immigration. Being and having a country means having borders and a cohesive culture, but I guess you are against that? Never mind the EU just voted to kick out the trash they've let in over the last several years. I doubt they actually do it, but the fact that it got a positive vote means many people in Europe do not think this is a far right position either.

93MarineHorn said:

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FlyRod said:

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docb said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/video/6392680313112

why are we supporting this fat clown? His biggest allies are Russia and China.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2026/apr/07/jd-vance-budapest-viktor-orban-hungary-election-france-nicolas-sarkozy-denmark-coalition-russia-ukraine-europe-latest-updates-news

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This administration, and more importantly, those backing it, support Orban because his foreign and domestic policy priorities align with theirs. Both MAGA and Project 2025, abstractly.

He's pro-Russian (which is interesting if you know what happened in Hungary in 1956, but also 1848 when Tsarist Russia invaded and destroyed their bid for independence) and anti-EU. Which is to say he's pro-authoritarian and anti-democracy...more Project 2025 then MAGA.

He's pro-natalist...women should have more and more and more children. Granted his country (like Russia) has been losing population badly for some time. But his policies here have been a dismal failure.

Anti-minority, specifically the Roma who he has targeted rather aggressively. Anti-immigration. Two very popular positions with the American far-Right.

Anti-education, esp. higher education. This one strikes a major chord with the American far-Right.

Conspiracy theorist, suffers from "Soros Derangement Syndrome." That's a big one too for MAGA.

So not difficult at all to see how the current administration adores this man and what he stands for.

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George Soros funds DAs that make living in blue cities like Austin a lot less pleasant than it otherwise could be (No cash bail, underfunding the cops, no charges for petty theft, racial justice, encouraging homelessness...). That's not SDS. The man is intentionally creating misery.

Anti-education? Stop being willfully obtuse.

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George Soros funded Orban's college. He is somehow good enough to take his money and then turn around and act like the man is behind every single bad thing in the world? What a joke. Lmao

twelve12twelve said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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FlyRod said:

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docb said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/video/6392680313112

why are we supporting this fat clown? His biggest allies are Russia and China.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2026/apr/07/jd-vance-budapest-viktor-orban-hungary-election-france-nicolas-sarkozy-denmark-coalition-russia-ukraine-europe-latest-updates-news

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This administration, and more importantly, those backing it, support Orban because his foreign and domestic policy priorities align with theirs. Both MAGA and Project 2025, abstractly.

He's pro-Russian (which is interesting if you know what happened in Hungary in 1956, but also 1848 when Tsarist Russia invaded and destroyed their bid for independence) and anti-EU. Which is to say he's pro-authoritarian and anti-democracy...more Project 2025 then MAGA.

He's pro-natalist...women should have more and more and more children. Granted his country (like Russia) has been losing population badly for some time. But his policies here have been a dismal failure.

Anti-minority, specifically the Roma who he has targeted rather aggressively. Anti-immigration. Two very popular positions with the American far-Right.

Anti-education, esp. higher education. This one strikes a major chord with the American far-Right.

Conspiracy theorist, suffers from "Soros Derangement Syndrome." That's a big one too for MAGA.

So not difficult at all to see how the current administration adores this man and what he stands for.

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George Soros funds DAs that make living in blue cities like Austin a lot less pleasant than it otherwise could be (No cash bail, underfunding the cops, no charges for petty theft, racial justice, encouraging homelessness...). That's not SDS. The man is intentionally creating misery.

Anti-education? Stop being willfully obtuse.

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George Soros funded Orban's college. He is somehow good enough to take his money and then turn around and act like the man is behind every single bad thing in the world? What a joke. Lmao

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He used to be a leftist (Orban) before he saw the path to ex-conservative dictator.

Gordo14 said:

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twelve12twelve said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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FlyRod said:

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docb said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/video/6392680313112

why are we supporting this fat clown? His biggest allies are Russia and China.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2026/apr/07/jd-vance-budapest-viktor-orban-hungary-election-france-nicolas-sarkozy-denmark-coalition-russia-ukraine-europe-latest-updates-news

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This administration, and more importantly, those backing it, support Orban because his foreign and domestic policy priorities align with theirs. Both MAGA and Project 2025, abstractly.

He's pro-Russian (which is interesting if you know what happened in Hungary in 1956, but also 1848 when Tsarist Russia invaded and destroyed their bid for independence) and anti-EU. Which is to say he's pro-authoritarian and anti-democracy...more Project 2025 then MAGA.

He's pro-natalist...women should have more and more and more children. Granted his country (like Russia) has been losing population badly for some time. But his policies here have been a dismal failure.

Anti-minority, specifically the Roma who he has targeted rather aggressively. Anti-immigration. Two very popular positions with the American far-Right.

Anti-education, esp. higher education. This one strikes a major chord with the American far-Right.

Conspiracy theorist, suffers from "Soros Derangement Syndrome." That's a big one too for MAGA.

So not difficult at all to see how the current administration adores this man and what he stands for.

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George Soros funds DAs that make living in blue cities like Austin a lot less pleasant than it otherwise could be (No cash bail, underfunding the cops, no charges for petty theft, racial justice, encouraging homelessness...). That's not SDS. The man is intentionally creating misery.

Anti-education? Stop being willfully obtuse.

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George Soros funded Orban's college. He is somehow good enough to take his money and then turn around and act like the man is behind every single bad thing in the world? What a joke. Lmao

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He used to be a leftist (Orban) before he saw the path to ex-conservative dictator.

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The latter tends to happen when you go hard in the paint on the former.

Most of the Orban fans here also think the the EU should shoulder the responsibility for helping Ukraine, except Orban is the one blocking EU's aid.

docb said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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docb said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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Compelling argument, OP.

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I guess we might as well endorse Lukashenko in the next election

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Maybe you could expand on why we shouldn't support Orban. Can you go beyond globalist buzzwords and tired cliches about fascism and saving democracy? Once again, the people that are bleeding all over about democracy being lost get another ELECTION to vote for a different guy.

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He has been the entry point of Chinese influence into Europe. Do you trust China or think they are our friend? Honestly I think they are the one enemy that we really need to worry about.

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And our own government corporation is the entry point to Chinese influence in the US.

twelve12twelve said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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FlyRod said:

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docb said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/video/6392680313112

why are we supporting this fat clown? His biggest allies are Russia and China.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2026/apr/07/jd-vance-budapest-viktor-orban-hungary-election-france-nicolas-sarkozy-denmark-coalition-russia-ukraine-europe-latest-updates-news

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This administration, and more importantly, those backing it, support Orban because his foreign and domestic policy priorities align with theirs. Both MAGA and Project 2025, abstractly.

He's pro-Russian (which is interesting if you know what happened in Hungary in 1956, but also 1848 when Tsarist Russia invaded and destroyed their bid for independence) and anti-EU. Which is to say he's pro-authoritarian and anti-democracy...more Project 2025 then MAGA.

He's pro-natalist...women should have more and more and more children. Granted his country (like Russia) has been losing population badly for some time. But his policies here have been a dismal failure.

Anti-minority, specifically the Roma who he has targeted rather aggressively. Anti-immigration. Two very popular positions with the American far-Right.

Anti-education, esp. higher education. This one strikes a major chord with the American far-Right.

Conspiracy theorist, suffers from "Soros Derangement Syndrome." That's a big one too for MAGA.

So not difficult at all to see how the current administration adores this man and what he stands for.

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George Soros funds DAs that make living in blue cities like Austin a lot less pleasant than it otherwise could be (No cash bail, underfunding the cops, no charges for petty theft, racial justice, encouraging homelessness...). That's not SDS. The man is intentionally creating misery.

Anti-education? Stop being willfully obtuse.

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George Soros funded Orban's college. He is somehow good enough to take his money and then turn around and act like the man is behind every single bad thing in the world? What a joke. Lmao

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LMAO at your inability to make a decent argument. Soros causes problems. Not all of them, but a lot of them. Honestly, Soros has a much more negative impact on my life (Austin resident) than Putin or any other bad actor on the world's stage. But I'm sure Soros does some good things too.

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docb said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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docb said:

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93MarineHorn said:

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Compelling argument, OP.

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I guess we might as well endorse Lukashenko in the next election

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Maybe you could expand on why we shouldn't support Orban. Can you go beyond globalist buzzwords and tired cliches about fascism and saving democracy? Once again, the people that are bleeding all over about democracy being lost get another ELECTION to vote for a different guy.

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He has been the entry point of Chinese influence into Europe. Do you trust China or think they are our friend? Honestly I think they are the one enemy that we really need to worry about.

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And our own government corporation is the entry point to Chinese influence in the US.

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I am certainly not a fan of letting the Chinese buy up vast amounts of US land. I think they are the ultimate enemy we need to worry about. Just my opinion.

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Victor Orban's admin in Hungary:

wants to drill and frac their proven reserves in the Algyo field to support their economy and energy independence

wants very secure borders and is opposite the rest of Europe re: mass migration and illegal immigration from the Middle East and Africa

doesn't see Russia as much of a threat to themselves or Europe- in fact, a prosperous Russia and western Europe's access to Russian gas is important for all of Europe's security

opposes the massive corruption of Europe's money laundering playground in Ukraine

Therefore, he's obviously a fascist dictator like Donald Trump and Adolf Hitler.

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This. The real dictatorial tyrant here is the EU.

Over_ed said:

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Orban is more pro moscow and anti Brussels (EU). Orban and party is pretty corrupt.

Opponent (Magyar) is more pro EU and anti Russia.

Neither smell like perfume.

I would tend to support Orban.

• Moscow is not our problem and will be overwhelmed due to Putin's idiocies.
• The EU is more of a danger, they threaten to finish off the Europe with their political authoritarianism and immigration stance.

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I'm just thankful our government is not corrupt.

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Most of the Orban fans here also think the the EU should shoulder the responsibility for helping Ukraine, except Orban is the one blocking EU's aid.

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Orban is blocking Kiev 'aid' (really money laundering) because they blew up his 'Friendship' pipeline (just as they did with the Germans' Nordstream one) which Hungary needs to provide much of central/eastern Europe with electricity.

Two vetoes from Hungary stall EU approval of aid for Ukraine and sanctions against Russia, with Hungarian PM Viktor Orban defending move amid oil dispute pic.twitter.com/VwABywv5o8

— TRT World Now (@TRTWorldNow) February 23, 2026

It hasn't helped matters that Kiev (and the EU) has intervened in Hungary's election strongly against him, just as they did in the US in 2024.

🚨 JD Vance goes OFF on the EU!

He blasts Brussels for trying to destroy Hungary’s economy and energy independence because they hate Viktor Orban.

“Foreign election interference?

Truly DISGRACEFUL!” 🔥🔥 pic.twitter.com/a4YdcxJGdX

— Ashley (TeamTrump47) (@TeamTrump47) April 7, 2026

Again, battling EU interference and seeking energy independence/freedom are just causes VP Vance spoke up for in my opinion. I have no concern whatsoever as to who 'aids' Kiev.

VaultingChemist said:

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Orban is pro-family and anti-immigration. I don't care if he is friendly to Russia.

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He is also extremely anti-gun rights and anti-free speech.

oh no said:

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Victor Orban's admin in Hungary:

wants to drill and frac their proven reserves in the Algyo field to support their economy and energy independence

wants very secure borders and is opposite the rest of Europe re: mass migration and illegal immigration from the Middle East and Africa

doesn't see Russia as much of a threat to themselves or Europe- in fact, a prosperous Russia and western Europe's access to Russian gas is important for all of Europe's security

opposes the massive corruption of Europe's money laundering playground in Ukraine

Therefore, he's obviously a fascist dictator like Donald Trump and Adolf Hitler.

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Anyone with some critical thought within them realizes that Hungary bucking Brussels is the problem for the EU here. Once one country leaves, then it could trigger a chain reaction of the EU disintegrating as an institution. They are going to do whatever it takes to prevent that which includes interfering in elections to keep countries within the fold. Even if that means implementing autocratic tactics.

Princess Leia: The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your grip.