Keyno said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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Keyno said:

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bobbranco said:

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Keyno said:

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Rapier108 said:

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"Bombing civilian infrastructure" is not a war crime.

And no matter what you want, other than ordering the release of nuclear weapons, Trump is not going to be removed from office by the 25th Amendment.

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"A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again..."

This is a genocide threat. Is that a war crime still or not anymore?

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It is not a genocide threat.

The "Iranian terrorist culture" will die tonight is probably more accurate. That is the goal, kill the Iranian terrorist culture (civilization) that exists today in Iran.

Destroying that culture and bringing Iran into the 21st century will eliminate the terrorist threat.

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Yeah I mean if you want to change Trump's words to say what you want them to say, then obviously it changes things.

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This is exactly what you're doing when you say Iran's leadership constantly pushing "Death to America" doesn't actually mean they want America to be dead. Except that most people are aware Trump, for better or worse, constantly exaggerates and says things he's not planning on following through with.

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I told posters to look into the meaning of the phrase (which of course you did not). The Iranians literally define it and tell you what it means

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Keyno said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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Keyno said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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Keyno said:

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bobbranco said:

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Keyno said:

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Rapier108 said:

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"Bombing civilian infrastructure" is not a war crime.

And no matter what you want, other than ordering the release of nuclear weapons, Trump is not going to be removed from office by the 25th Amendment.

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"A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again..."

This is a genocide threat. Is that a war crime still or not anymore?

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It is not a genocide threat.

The "Iranian terrorist culture" will die tonight is probably more accurate. That is the goal, kill the Iranian terrorist culture (civilization) that exists today in Iran.

Destroying that culture and bringing Iran into the 21st century will eliminate the terrorist threat.

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Yeah I mean if you want to change Trump's words to say what you want them to say, then obviously it changes things.

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This is exactly what you're doing when you say Iran's leadership constantly pushing "Death to America" doesn't actually mean they want America to be dead. Except that most people are aware Trump, for better or worse, constantly exaggerates and says things he's not planning on following through with.

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I told posters to look into the meaning of the phrase (which of course you did not). The Iranians literally define it and tell you what it means

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How about you enlighten us what they really mean since you're the one making the claim.

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Making what claim? I am not saying someone mean's something else. Some other poster is trying to explain Trump really means something else.

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Keyno said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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Keyno said:

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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Keyno said:

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bobbranco said:

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Keyno said:

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Rapier108 said:

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"Bombing civilian infrastructure" is not a war crime.

And no matter what you want, other than ordering the release of nuclear weapons, Trump is not going to be removed from office by the 25th Amendment.

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"A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again..."

This is a genocide threat. Is that a war crime still or not anymore?

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It is not a genocide threat.

The "Iranian terrorist culture" will die tonight is probably more accurate. That is the goal, kill the Iranian terrorist culture (civilization) that exists today in Iran.

Destroying that culture and bringing Iran into the 21st century will eliminate the terrorist threat.

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Yeah I mean if you want to change Trump's words to say what you want them to say, then obviously it changes things.

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This is exactly what you're doing when you say Iran's leadership constantly pushing "Death to America" doesn't actually mean they want America to be dead. Except that most people are aware Trump, for better or worse, constantly exaggerates and says things he's not planning on following through with.

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I told posters to look into the meaning of the phrase (which of course you did not). The Iranians literally define it and tell you what it means

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How about you enlighten us what they really mean since you're the one making the claim.

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Making what claim? I am not saying someone mean's something else. Some other poster is trying to explain Trump really means something else.

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2000AgPhD said:

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My prediction is that if some 11th hour deal is struck, the people calling to invoke the 25th Amendment will immediately pivot to TACO.

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TAMUallen said:

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But but but orange man is bad and he said mean things! Impossible!

So yall that said you voted for him before and wouldn't anymore, does he now have your vote?

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Agador Spartacus said:

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It's pretty clear at this point that Trump isn't worried about threatening / committing international war crimes.

Simply bombing civilian infrastructure is a clear and obvious war crime, and this morning he went a step further and threatened genocide against the entire Iranian civilization. ("A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again...")

Taking away the emotion of this, which is admittedly high, how far would this need to go before the 25th could potentially be invoked?

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twelve12twelve said:

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TAMUallen said:

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But but but orange man is bad and he said mean things! Impossible!

So yall that said you voted for him before and wouldn't anymore, does he now have your vote?

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So the war is over?

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BHAg10 said:

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"destroying civilization" by destroying power plants in a desert country is tantamount to killing thousands of civilians at the absolute minimum. You're killing babies in NICU incubators, sick patients who need Oxygen or dialysis, and those dependent of supply chains for medication. That's not to mention lack of access to water or food in urban areas.

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Keyno said:

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BusterAg said:

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Keyno said:

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bobbranco said:

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Keyno said:

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Rapier108 said:

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"Bombing civilian infrastructure" is not a war crime.

And no matter what you want, other than ordering the release of nuclear weapons, Trump is not going to be removed from office by the 25th Amendment.

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"A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again..."

This is a genocide threat. Is that a war crime still or not anymore?

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It is not a genocide threat.

The "Iranian terrorist culture" will die tonight is probably more accurate. That is the goal, kill the Iranian terrorist culture (civilization) that exists today in Iran.

Destroying that culture and bringing Iran into the 21st century will eliminate the terrorist threat.

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Yeah I mean if you want to change Trump's words to say what you want them to say, then obviously it changes things.

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Well, you still haven't told us how Trump is going to eradicate the Iranians so that the Iranians can be led by less radicalized leaders. Who are the leaders going to lead if all of the Iranians are dead?

When I asked you to tie those ends together you threw up your hands as it being indecipherable.

It actually isn't that hard to understand unless you are trying very, very hard not to understand it.

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If you knew anything about the definition of genocide, you would know that it does not necessarily mean literally every member of that race or ethnicity is killed

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Fine what is your question? "Why won't you give a direct answer as to why Iran saying their end game is to destroy the United States a war crime?"

I have not seen Iran ever say their "end game" is to destroy the United States. I also have not seen that written anywhere in their government policy. I know Mark Levin and Sean Hannity like to make this claim, but it's called propaganda. If you are talking about the phrase "Death to America", then yeah I addressed that and no that is not some stated Iranian "end game"

Furthermore, something you would know if you read the thread, I never said the threat itself was a war crime. I said I was not sure, another poster said it was and cited it, it was debated a little bit, and I ended up agreeing that no incitement took place from Trump's post.

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LMCane said:

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can't wait to hear idiotic leftists explain how it's a war crime to accept a two week ceasefire!

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Furthermore, something you would know if you read the thread, I never said the threat itself was a war crime. I said I was not sure, another poster said it was and cited it, it was debated a little bit, and I ended up agreeing that no incitement took place from Trump's post.

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Fine what is your question? "Why won't you give a direct answer as to why Iran saying their end game is to destroy the United States a war crime?"

I have not seen Iran ever say their "end game" is to destroy the United States. I also have not seen that written anywhere in their government policy. I know Mark Levin and Sean Hannity like to make this claim, but it's called propaganda. If you are talking about the phrase "Death to America", then yeah I addressed that and no that is not some stated Iranian "end game"

Furthermore, something you would know if you read the thread, I never said the threat itself was a war crime. I said I was not sure, another poster said it was and cited it, it was debated a little bit, and I ended up agreeing that no incitement took place from Trump's post.

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Your argument is that a radical Islamic regime saying "Death to America" for almost five decades isn't a threat because they DON'T REALLY MEAN what they are saying and that taking it literally is "right wing propaganda"?

That's your answer: They don't mean it so it's ok for them to say it.

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One Eyed Reveille said:

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Guess who started civilian "war crimes" Grant and Sherman. After Shiloh, Grant knew he had to do it. Stop making crap up libs.

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Pizza said:

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One Eyed Reveille said:

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Guess who started civilian "war crimes" Grant and Sherman. After Shiloh, Grant knew he had to do it. Stop making crap up libs.

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In war there are no crimes. IDC what Canada says.

China, Russia, Iran, etc. will use whatever means necessary to win if they believe they can.

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David_Puddy said:

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Big L for all of the crazy liberals rooting against America and hoping we were about to kill a bunch of civilians

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No I told you to look into the meaning and background of what that phrase means. Literally just google it. It does not mean genocide and Iranian leaders explain it. Of course you did not do that.

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David_Puddy said:

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Big L for all of the crazy liberals rooting against America and hoping we were about to kill a bunch of civilians

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No I told you to look into the meaning and background of what that phrase means. Literally just google it. It does not mean genocide and Iranian leaders explain it. Of course you did not do that.

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I will give you credit. You've finally answered a very simple and direct question instead of just saying "read the thread".

Your basis is that Iran saying "We don't really mean what we say" when they chant "Death to America" ...in Parliament and public speeches...doesn't really qualify as a genocidal threat.

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tycolab1@yahoo.com said:

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The saddest part of this is, if the tables were reversed and those wonderful people dropped a nuclear weapon on our country, would that be a war crime? Would the extinction of thousands of lives be a war crime? To your kind, you would some sick way to justify it in your mind.

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Im Gipper said:

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Team Iran working overtime on this topic!

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TAMUallen said:

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Im Gipper said:

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Team Iran working overtime on this topic!

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Might not get paid either since ActBlue is in hot water

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TAMUallen said:

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twelve12twelve said:

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TAMUallen said:

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But but but orange man is bad and he said mean things! Impossible!

So yall that said you voted for him before and wouldn't anymore, does he now have your vote?

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So the war is over?

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As of now, if the Iranians behave and are honest. That's not how we got here though so let them be stupid to show the world they cant sit at a negotiation table, ever. Plus, it's times for the Persians and Kurds to start working on the Islamic Republic

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Keyno said:

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No I told you to look into the meaning and background of what that phrase means. Literally just google it. It does not mean genocide and Iranian leaders explain it. Of course you did not do that.

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I will give you credit. You've finally answered a very simple and direct question instead of just saying "read the thread".

Your basis is that Iran saying "We don't really mean what we say" when they chant "Death to America" ...in Parliament and public speeches...doesn't really qualify as a genocidal threat.

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Correct. If you read what the phrase means, and what the Iranians tell you it means, it is not referring to genocide. Furthermore, as I have said previously and you would know if you read the thread like you claimed, Iran does not have the ability to genocide America. They literally do not have any weapon capable of even hitting the US homeland, much less a nuke.

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