flown-the-coop said:

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Sure…

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I was under the impression this was a different poll than Des Moines…

However, the larger issue here is that nationally the GOP has some serious issues and is competitive in states they should be running away in.

K2-HMFIC said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Sure…

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I was under the impression this was a different poll than Des Moines…

However, the larger issue here is that nationally the GOP has some serious issues and is competitive in states they should be running away in.

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His point is maybe it's not wise to believe polls.

Seems obvious but the TDS haze is thick these days. Maybe humidity and the Saharan dust blowing in.

Teslag said:

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K2-HMFIC said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Sure…

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I was under the impression this was a different poll than Des Moines…

However, the larger issue here is that nationally the GOP has some serious issues and is competitive in states they should be running away in.

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His point is maybe it's not wise to believe polls.

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It is an absolute mistake to look at polls as some sort of exact predictor of the future.

However, polls are useful to project trends and direction.

Go look at polling in the 2018 midterms. Nelson would have won Florida. Tester would have won Montana. Donnelly would have won Indiana.

Broseph said:

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I see a lot of polls with dems favored. That doesn't look positive.

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Why? That's been SOP every election cycle since, at least, 2008. It's hard to trust the accuracy of a poll more than 30 days out from an election.

In the 2018 midterms, Republicans suffered significant losses in House contests, yet still managed to increase their Senate representation by two seats.

Like the trend in November 2024 that Kamala was going to be the next POTUS? That trend?

Sometimes a broken clock is right. Most of the time it is not.

Jessy255 said:

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In the 2018 midterms, Republicans suffered significant losses in House contests, yet still managed to increase their Senate representation by two seats.

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Trump exhaustion was a real thing at the time. Derangement had set in on the left and moving to the right. But plenty on the right were simply exhausted of Trump and the MSM attacks on him and were thinking house would provide some check on them.

Using similar rhetoric now. Booker is all in on Trump is a threat to democracy and that winning the house and senate in 2026 is the only way to ensure Trump can take no further action as POTUS.

You know, separate but equal except when Dems control a branch then that branch is most superior to all others and if they do not comply then they will be stacked, packed, impeached, et cetera.

flown-the-coop said:

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Like the trend in November 2024 that Kamala was going to be the next POTUS? That trend?

Sometimes a broken clock is right. Most of the time it is not.

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Works the other way too. In 2022 every poll showed a sizable red wave. Never happened. Polls are simply worthless now. Even in determining trends.

Agree. I am actually (and surprisingly I know) hopeful and even a bit confident that Rs hold the House and make gains in the Senate.

Summer of America 250 has a long way to go, gas has a long way to drop, and the campaigns for November are just now getting started.

Rs are LOADED with plenty of fodder to through at the Dems. Platner has plenty of company out there.

In fact, the Dems are putting together a disaster of a slate of candidates like Rs have been known for. Giddy up.

flown-the-coop said:

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Like the trend in November 2024 that Kamala was going to be the next POTUS? That trend?

Sometimes a broken clock is right. Most of the time it is not.

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What polls showed that????

For real…

Almost all of them

https://www.270towin.com/2024-presidential-election-polls/national

Teslag said:

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Almost all of them

https://www.270towin.com/2024-presidential-election-polls/national

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Bud…these are national polling averages…not state by state breakouts.

Most state polls had Trump winning the electoral college.

https://www.270towin.com/2024-presidential-election-polls/

State polls had Trump losing Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania tied (with 11 of 15 state polls taken in November giving Penn to Harris).


Those 3 give the election to Harris. They were wrong.

Correct. And Democrat-communists, lest we forget, were very excited about a fraudulent poll in Iowa showing Harris ahead as well.

With the twin implosions of Platner and Talarico plus the increasing likelihood that El-Sayed becomes the nominee in Michigan, along with the reverse push-down coattails of Kesha Bottoms in Georgia and the obvious split between White and Black Democrats across the nation,… https://t.co/6ZrvI1QTq3

— Chris (@chriswithans) June 24, 2026

55 is more plausible than ever, and the communist Dem candidates in NY in the House will give more momentum/ammo to the GOP to campaign with in battleground senate races nationwide. The chair of the House Hispanic Caucus lost too.

Dems worked to import the third world for peepaw's whole tenure and it is backfiring on them spectacularly now.