Say goodbye to hunting dogs

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itsyourboypookie
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Big brother doesn't like you having hounds to tree a bear.

Imagine if they knew about coyote hunting with greyhounds or hog dogs.

How exactly will the feds enforce this? FBI going to confiscate your duck dog? I'm sure it's only for federal land, but will make bear and cougar hunts more challenging.






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Thought this was going to be a Kristi Noem topic
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What jackass added that content to the bill?
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Damn, my Catahoula is gonna be pissed... he's a hell of a coon dog.
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Do they also make it mandatory to walk your cats?
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BMX Bandit said:

Thought this was going to be a Kristi Noem topic


If it was about shooting your own dog, it would be more likely.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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Something this stupid, I figured was another far left liberal idiotic thing. Who'd a thunk.

A la Google,

Quote:


29 members of the House of Representatives sponsoring the amendment are not all Democrats; the effort is officially bipartisan, consisting of 15 Democrats and 14 Republicans.

There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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If this passes, hopefully republicans don't follow in Kristi Noem's footsteps in regards to their current hunting dogs.
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The text of HR 5017

The relevant part is probably Section 30(a)(3), which states:

"It shall be unlawful to conduct open field coursing or live lure training with the use of any bait that is not an inanimate object".




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This law is unenforceable. People that hunt with dogs do so in counties where zero juries are going to convict for a federal hunting dog crime.

This is all a waste of time and money, and a way to let the feds harass harmless responsible people.
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MouthBQ98 said:

What jackass added that content to the bill?


Probably an urban dweller that thinks we should all be like them.
Woods Ag
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Yeah...

At this point I just live a moral life that doesn't effect anyone else. If anything I do such as hunt with dogs is breaking the law, then they can go **** themselves and come and get me. This isn't a concern of mine.
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BusterAg said:

This law is unenforceable. People that hunt with dogs do so in counties where zero juries are going to convict for a federal hunting dog crime.

This is all a waste of time and money, and a way to let the feds harass harmless responsible people.


Respectfully disagree. Having hunted and fished with guides for many years, these guys follow the rules. They are not willing to see their entire livelihood go up in smoke for one mistake.
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How do you stop this psychopath from hunting? He goes outside with me and trees squirrels starting at 5am while
I workout in the garage. He stands here all day eyeing the tree lines waiting for a squirrels, deer, turkey to show itself and depending on the noise that comes out of him I know exactly what it is.

He'd choose death over not hunting.

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Claude! said:

The text of HR 5017

The relevant part is probably Section 30(a)(3), which states:

"It shall be unlawful to conduct open field coursing or live lure training with the use of any bait that is not an inanimate object".







So no more field trials with live birds?
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so the dip****, city-folk politicians want to protect varmints and wild hogs?
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...but how will I stay in shape?
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nortex97 said:

We'll always be friends, forever.
Yeah, forever.

Who started chopping onions in here?
"Well, if you can’t have a great season, at least ruin somebody else’s." - Olin Buchanan
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BMX Bandit said:

Thought this was going to be a Kristi Noem topic

I thought some leftie determined hunting dog farts harm the environment.
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My dogs hunt with or without me. It is in their blood.
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A_Gang_Ag_06 said:

BusterAg said:

This law is unenforceable. People that hunt with dogs do so in counties where zero juries are going to convict for a federal hunting dog crime.

This is all a waste of time and money, and a way to let the feds harass harmless responsible people.


Respectfully disagree. Having hunted and fished with guides for many years, these guys follow the rules. They are not willing to see their entire livelihood go up in smoke for one mistake.

This is a good point.

Hunting guides might have more reservations.
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zephyr88 said:

so the dip****, city-folk politicians want to protect varmints and wild hogs?


…..and criminals, fraudsters, men dressed as women story hour for kids, and illegals.

Voting for Democrats doesn't actually make any sense.
I don't think you know me.
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Ducks4brkfast said:

Claude! said:

The text of HR 5017

The relevant part is probably Section 30(a)(3), which states:

"It shall be unlawful to conduct open field coursing or live lure training with the use of any bait that is not an inanimate object".







So no more field trials with live birds?


Or no more hog dog trials?
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The language of that bill makes it clear that it only applies to greyhounds moved interstate for the purpose of commercial greyhound racing. It's not a ban on working dogs.

Open field coursing and live lure training are also defined in that bill in how it relates to racing events. If people are that worried about it they can just amend it to slap "for the purposes of greyhound racing" at the end.
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Ducks4brkfast said:

Claude! said:

The text of HR 5017

The relevant part is probably Section 30(a)(3), which states:

"It shall be unlawful to conduct open field coursing or live lure training with the use of any bait that is not an inanimate object".







So no more field trials with live birds?


Depends on how live lure training and open field coursing are defined/interpreted. The text of the bill doesn't appear to define them, which could lead to a broad interpretation.
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Ducks4brkfast said:

Claude! said:

The text of HR 5017

The relevant part is probably Section 30(a)(3), which states:

"It shall be unlawful to conduct open field coursing or live lure training with the use of any bait that is not an inanimate object".







So no more field trials with live birds?

as I understand it, the proposed bill affects land coursing only and not upland bird hunting.
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BusterAg said:

This law is unenforceable. People that hunt with dogs do so in counties where zero juries are going to convict for a federal hunting dog crime.

This is all a waste of time and money, and a way to let the feds harass harmless responsible people.


Just another law onto the books for the deep state to penalize Americans. Show me the man I'll show you the crime /Stalin
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it's all disguised within a bill about greyhound... you gotta love the political process...
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ABattJudd said:

nortex97 said:

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Yeah, forever.

Who started chopping onions in here?

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No more quail hunting? Pop's pointer would be disappointed and if he'd have had a setter it would be upset. Have these folks have no concern for the rights of dogs?
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