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Paying informants is the responsibility of the police, is it not?

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For information to be used in criminal actions, yes.

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Who made the SPLC the cops? I don't think I want to live in a police state run by them.

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No one did and no one says they are.


Once more: if SPLC was just paying for information to expose these groups, they would not have been indicted!!!!!

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Silent For Too Long said:

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You are trying way to hard to spin this. If everything they were doing was legal and above board they wouldn't be hiding money in the Caymans.

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I'm not trying to spin anything. It's a criminal prosecution. SPLC are claiming that that these expenditures are for paying informants. I'm stating that I believe that if the government can prove that they were actually to incite criminality, than they will be able to secure convictions. If they are unable accomplish that, I think that the prosecution will fail.

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Paying informants is the responsibility of the police, is it not? Who made the SPLC the cops? I don't think I want to live in a police state run by them.

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I mean, you can pay people for pretty much anything that isn't illegal. If there's a local cartel gangster who you pay to mow your lawn, you aren't implicated in his crime. If you pay him to tell you where the best tacos in town are, you aren't implicated in a crime. But if you pay him to tell you which corner the big deal is going to go down on, you suddenly are implicated in the crime? I doubt it. Especially if you convey that information on to law enforcement as SPLC claims.

Of course whether these claims can be substantiated remains to be seen.

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You are trying way to hard to spin this. If everything they were doing was legal and above board they wouldn't be hiding money in the Caymans.

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I'm not trying to spin anything. It's a criminal prosecution. SPLC are claiming that that these expenditures are for paying informants. I'm stating that I believe that if the government can prove that they were actually to incite criminality, than they will be able to secure convictions. If they are unable accomplish that, I think that the prosecution will fail.

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Paying informants is the responsibility of the police, is it not? Who made the SPLC the cops? I don't think I want to live in a police state run by them.

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I mean, you can pay people for pretty much anything that isn't illegal. If there's a local cartel gangster who you pay to mow your lawn, you aren't implicated in his crime. If you pay him to tell you where the best tacos in town are, you aren't implicated in a crime. But if you pay him to tell you which corner the big deal is going to go down on, you suddenly are implicated in the crime? I doubt it. Especially if you convey that information on to law enforcement as SPLC claims.

Of course whether these claims can be substantiated remains to be seen.

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Through shell companies? Do you know any banking regs, or are you just making this up on the fly? Cause that's part of the allegation. And of course, paying someone to steal and replace documents from another organization, and paying the fall guy too!

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Once more: if SPLC was just paying for information to expose these groups, they would not have been indicted!!!!!

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I'm not sure that is the case.

They broke plenty of banking laws in the way that they paid their "informants".

Also they didn't specify in their fundraising that they were paying "informants".

So, I'm not sure that I agree with you.

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You are trying way to hard to spin this. If everything they were doing was legal and above board they wouldn't be hiding money in the Caymans.

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I'm not trying to spin anything. It's a criminal prosecution. SPLC are claiming that that these expenditures are for paying informants. I'm stating that I believe that if the government can prove that they were actually to incite criminality, than they will be able to secure convictions. If they are unable accomplish that, I think that the prosecution will fail.

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Paying informants is the responsibility of the police, is it not? Who made the SPLC the cops? I don't think I want to live in a police state run by them.

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I mean, you can pay people for pretty much anything that isn't illegal. If there's a local cartel gangster who you pay to mow your lawn, you aren't implicated in his crime. If you pay him to tell you where the best tacos in town are, you aren't implicated in a crime. But if you pay him to tell you which corner the big deal is going to go down on, you suddenly are implicated in the crime? I doubt it. Especially if you convey that information on to law enforcement as SPLC claims.

Of course whether these claims can be substantiated remains to be seen.

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So, super cool with SPLC raising a bunch of money and blowing it on hookers in Nevada?

You can't raise money for one thing in a 503(c), and spend it on something totally different.

There is plenty of grey about whether or not SPLC was spending money on things that they did not raise that money for.

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If anyone was wondering the real reason behind the Kash Patel hit piece in The Atlantic last week...


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Yep. Steve Jobs widow owns The Atlantic and she funds the SPLC.

1) I doubt a single cent went to any informants and instead it all got laundered

2) If they're telling the truth then I'm sure the FBI has records of all the information SPLC turned over to them via informants but I'm gonna bet Kash had his guys check on that first and lo and behold, no information was ever turned over

Of course if you pay in an illegal way that would be illegal. That wasn't the point I was addressing.

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Of course if you pay in an illegal way that would be illegal. That wasn't the point I was addressing.

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Guarantee you this was illegal.

Exactly. As long as we start a conversation…..

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FOLLOW THE MONEY. Charge individuals.

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Once more: if SPLC was just paying for information to expose these groups, they would not have been indicted!!!!!

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Someone hasn't been paying close attention to this regime's record of running of the DOJ.

Can we go back and discuss now how Nazi Candace Owens, Ian Carroll and tiny gay Mexican Nick Fuentes are all part of this SPLC pay for faking scandal?

"A federal indictment against the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) has ignited a storm of rumors and conspiracy theories in conservative and alternative media circles, with online observers pointing to the sudden silences or travel plans of prominent figures including Nick Fuentes, Sneako, and Candace Owens.

The SPLC, long known for monitoring extremist groups, faces an 11-count federal indictment unsealed earlier this week. Prosecutors allege the organization engaged in fraud, bank fraud, and money laundering, claiming it secretly paid millions to informants and leaders within the very extremist movements it publicly opposed. timesofindia.indiatimes.com

The indictment has coincided with a noticeable drop in activity from several high-profile online personalities often grouped under the "Woke Right" or "America First" umbrella:

Candace Owens abruptly canceled her scheduled show, announcing she is traveling overseas with family for her upcoming birthday. Her husband is British, and the trip was described as pre-planned. Critics, including Laura Loomer, have questioned the timing and suggested undisclosed connections.

Nick Fuentes has gone relatively quiet on streams, fueling unverified claims he may have left the country (rumors place him in Rome or elsewhere). He has continued posting political content in recent days, with no confirmed evidence of flight tied to the indictment. Sneako has paused streaming with minimal explanation, adding to the perception of a broader "Podcastistan meltdown."

Other figures, such as Ian Carroll, have also stepped back, with some clips showing him expressing fear or claiming victim status.

Social media has exploded with memes, accusations, and theories suggesting the influencers may be "scrambling," "fleeing," or linked indirectly to the SPLC scandal. Posts claim a coordinated "house of cards" collapse or impending exposures of controlled opposition."

JUST ASKING QUESTIONS

Does anyone in DC today remember the FAKE and fraudulent "white Nazis"

who showed up with tiki torches (!!) claiming to support the Republican Governor Glenn Youngkin in Virginia?

I DO!!!

The fake "GOP" Lincoln Project grifters sent fake Nazis to claim they supported Glenn Youngkin in the days before the election against Terry McAuliffe

I am sure this was all a big coincidence!

So the grand jury is on the DOJ payroll

for years Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson were vehemently PRO-ISRAEL

years of them on video stating they supported Israel and hated the Islamic terrorists.

suddenly- they are literally regurgitating speeches from well known German Nazis such as Goebbels and Himmler. conveniently after Tucker returns from several trips to Qatar where he has stated he owns a home.

JUST A COINCIDENCE!

Now that we know what SPLC did in Charlottesville 2017, I’m pretty sure SPLC is behind Candace Owens 2026.

Prove me wrong. You can’t. https://t.co/8LnORrwr6j

— Michael Caputo (@MichaelRCaputo) April 24, 2026

some of us on F16 have been stating for years now that Fuentes and Owens and Tucker are 100% a psyop created by the left / Islamists to destroy the conservative movement.

I am sure it's a coincidence that TIME MAGAZINE just happened to interview some unknown 20 year old about Charlottesville- which we now know was a SPLC paid operation.

COINCIDENCE!!

SPLC, sorry my mistake, Time Magazine does a spot with a random white supremacist who participated in the Charlottesville rally in 2017. pic.twitter.com/0jcJhiXwFX

— MAZE (@mazemoore) April 24, 2026

I have never taken anything Owens/Fuentes have said seriously anyway, but glad they might go down further over this. They've clearly, like the SPLC been obvious frauds for many years.

Benson is the Dem heir-apparent to Gretchen Whitler (of Fednapping infamy) in Michigan and was an SPLC board member.

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Michigan Secretary of State and Democrat gubernatorial candidate Jocelyn Benson is facing scrutiny over her past role with the Southern Poverty Law Center following a federal indictment against the organization.
A grand jury indictment announced by the U.S. Department of Justice on Tuesday charges the SPLC with 11 counts, including wire fraud, bank fraud and conspiracy to commit money laundering.

Federal officials allege the organization directed more than $3 million in donor funds between 2014 and 2023 to individuals associated with extremist groups. Benson served on the SPLC's board of directors from 2014 through early 2019, which overlaps with the timeframe outlined in the indictment.

The allegations against the SPLC have prompted questions about the role board members, like Benson, played in the alleged crimes.

"This indictment raises serious questions about how the SPLC has been spending donor money," said Gabe Butzke, a spokesperson for Michigan Forward Network. "As a member of their board, did Jocelyn Benson know that donor money was reportedly being used to fund extremism and violence?"
According to the federal indictment, some of the groups that received funding include the Ku Klux Klan, United Klans of America and the National Socialist Movement, as well as an individual tied to organizing the 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville.

"The SPLC is a nonprofit entity that purports to fight white supremacy and racial hatred by reporting on extremist groups and conducting research to inform law enforcement groups with the goal of dismantling these groups," Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche said at a news conference announcing the charges. "The SPLC was not dismantling these groups. It was instead manufacturing the extremism it purports to oppose by paying sources to stoke racial hatred."

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She hasn't commented, but this might knock her down a notch as well.

PJMedia (Tim O'Brian) story on this coverage in the MSM is terrific. CNN as usual, took the cake.

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On the whole issue of "informants," this wasn't the sequel to Donnie Brasco, where Johnny Depp, playing a cop, infiltrates the mob. Nonprofits don't hire informants. They certainly don't pay key members of "hate groups" to keep the hate going. One of the allegations is that the SPLC allegedly paid an "Imperial Wizard" of the KKK in one case to continue being an "Imperial Wizard" of the KKK, for crying out loud.

If the DOJ can take down the SPLC for its actions here, that is a major victory for the entire right and for the truth. We've seen the impact the shutdown of USAID has had throughout the left and, to some extent, throughout the culture. We've seen the benefits of a secure border. With the exposure of the SPLC, a lot of leftist propaganda infrastructure is now at risk. People have no idea how integral the SPLC has been to creating and driving fake narratives.

Timing wise, this is excellent. It's still early enough in the Trump administration's second term that the DOJ under Trump will likely be able to see this one through to its inevitable conclusion. One we can only hope will involve the demise of a hate-mongering, propaganda-generating, money-wielding Southern Poverty Law Center.

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Daily Signal has more on Democrats beclowning themselves defending the SPLC.

I'm sure someone up thread noted that Biden long cited the SPLC's 2017 'Unite the Right' rally as his reason for launching his fraudulent presidential campaign/presidency.

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PJMedia (Tim O'Brian) story on this coverage in the MSM is terrific. CNN as usual, took the cake.

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On the whole issue of "informants," this wasn't the sequel to Donnie Brasco, where Johnny Depp, playing a cop, infiltrates the mob. Nonprofits don't hire informants. They certainly don't pay key members of "hate groups" to keep the hate going. One of the allegations is that the SPLC allegedly paid an "Imperial Wizard" of the KKK in one case to continue being an "Imperial Wizard" of the KKK, for crying out loud.

If the DOJ can take down the SPLC for its actions here, that is a major victory for the entire right and for the truth. We've seen the impact the shutdown of USAID has had throughout the left and, to some extent, throughout the culture. We've seen the benefits of a secure border. With the exposure of the SPLC, a lot of leftist propaganda infrastructure is now at risk. People have no idea how integral the SPLC has been to creating and driving fake narratives.

Timing wise, this is excellent. It's still early enough in the Trump administration's second term that the DOJ under Trump will likely be able to see this one through to its inevitable conclusion. One we can only hope will involve the demise of a hate-mongering, propaganda-generating, money-wielding Southern Poverty Law Center.

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Daily Signal has more on Democrats beclowning themselves defending the SPLC.

I'm sure someone up thread noted that Biden long cited the SPLC's 2017 'Unite the Right' rally as his reason for launching his fraudulent presidential campaign/presidency.

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It's all a manipulation. The concern moderates don't understand it and the go with whatever way the wind is blowing.

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And seize their assets.

I'd look into Lincoln Project ties and into personalities like Bill Kristol. Also into some of the woke "pastors" who have been attacking Christian nationalism, as if that has ever been any sort of threat to the country or to Christianity. Those charlatans came out of the woodwork in 2017-2020. I hope they all get destroyed.

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I'd look into Lincoln Project ties and into personalities like Bill Kristol. Also into some of the woke "pastors" who have been attacking Christian nationalism, as if that has ever been any sort of threat to the country or to Christianity. Those charlatans came out of the woodwork in 2017-2020. I hope they all get destroyed.

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The groundwork for all that was really built during the Obama administration, IMO. He and his ilk convinced a lot of white people they should still feel guilty about sins they didn't commit.

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Do yall really think anyone donating to SPLC didn't know what they were doing? Some of yall act like this would be scandalous to their donor base, like the planned parenthood body parts scandal, they'll prob get more money

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As every single American leftist believes those that oppose them are racists, I do not believe they knew about SPLC's support for actual racists.

Now that they know, they will respond to the cognitive dissonance confronting them by either denying truth or rationalizing it.

You are right; these people are truly sinister in their motives and their desires to see this country destroyed. Most of them voted Biden knowing full well he molested his daughter. Most of them accepted Epstein and excused his actions because he was a major donor aligned to their party and political heroes like Chomsky and Clinton.

At the end of the day, all acts fair and foul are acceptable so long as it is ends with American citizens getting the Soviet-style warmth of collectivism desired by Democrats.

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You will see epic levels of rationalizing.

Leftists are not burdened with conscience or moral proclivity which is how they end up getting twisted into irrational pretzels over issues that are clear cut to normal people. This will be no different, fabricating racism to fight racism is necessary so is therefore justified no matter how absurd the argument is.

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You are trying way to hard to spin this. If everything they were doing was legal and above board they wouldn't be hiding money in the Caymans.

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I'm not trying to spin anything. It's a criminal prosecution. SPLC are claiming that that these expenditures are for paying informants. I'm stating that I believe that if the government can prove that they were actually to incite criminality, than they will be able to secure convictions. If they are unable accomplish that, I think that the prosecution will fail.

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Paying informants is the responsibility of the police, is it not? Who made the SPLC the cops? I don't think I want to live in a police state run by them.

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I mean, you can pay people for pretty much anything that isn't illegal. If there's a local cartel gangster who you pay to mow your lawn, you aren't implicated in his crime. If you pay him to tell you where the best tacos in town are, you aren't implicated in a crime. But if you pay him to tell you which corner the big deal is going to go down on, you suddenly are implicated in the crime? I doubt it. Especially if you convey that information on to law enforcement as SPLC claims.

Of course whether these claims can be substantiated remains to be seen.

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It is almost certain that the receipts, or the lack thereof, will blow this argument right out of the water. When no records can be produced to back this claim up, the question becomes "then what did they pay these people for?". It would seem that the prosecution would have a pretty good idea already of what actually happened or we wouldn't be here.

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some of us on F16 have been stating for years now that Fuentes and Owens and Tucker are 100% a psyop created by the left / Islamists to destroy the conservative movement.

I am sure it's a coincidence that TIME MAGAZINE just happened to interview some unknown 20 year old about Charlottesville- which we now know was a SPLC paid operation.

COINCIDENCE!!

SPLC, sorry my mistake, Time Magazine does a spot with a random white supremacist who participated in the Charlottesville rally in 2017. pic.twitter.com/0jcJhiXwFX

— MAZE (@mazemoore) April 24, 2026

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Don't know what to think about Fuentes but nothing he said in that interview was wrong. Right now there's a bullseye on his back because he is pointing out all the promises Trump is failing to deliver on therefore MAGA is big mad.

You don't know what to think of a raving neonazis that in all likelihood has been propped up by leftist organizations like the SPLC?

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some of us on F16 have been stating for years now that Fuentes and Owens and Tucker are 100% a psyop created by the left / Islamists to destroy the conservative movement.

I am sure it's a coincidence that TIME MAGAZINE just happened to interview some unknown 20 year old about Charlottesville- which we now know was a SPLC paid operation.

COINCIDENCE!!

SPLC, sorry my mistake, Time Magazine does a spot with a random white supremacist who participated in the Charlottesville rally in 2017. pic.twitter.com/0jcJhiXwFX

— MAZE (@mazemoore) April 24, 2026

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Don't know what to think about Fuentes but nothing he said in that interview was wrong. Right now there's a bullseye on his back because he is pointing out all the promises Trump is failing to deliver on therefore MAGA is big mad.

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You're missing the point.

it wasn't a coincidence that Fuentes was interviewed. It was a setup. SPLC, working in cahoots with Time to prop up a "white supremacist"

SPLC is in a legal box with no clean exit.

To defeat the donor fraud charges, they have to argue the informant program was legitimate intelligence work coordinated with federal law enforcement. Bryan Fair already said that on video on April 21st.

But the moment that's the… https://t.co/vswWsyKKzK

— bitchuneedsoap (@bitchuneedsoap) April 24, 2026

House Panel Orders Southern Poverty Law Center To Turn Over Communications With Biden DOJ https://t.co/Lk7Mpb4VGQ

— zerohedge (@zerohedge) April 24, 2026