The real reason why the left is against the 10 commandments in school..

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1:02p, 4/28/26
They vehemently disagree with all of them.

We are seeing this play out in real-time right now.

Their outright disdain for God is well established, but they have really torn apart the rest of the list lately, haven't they?

Murder? "Political violence is often necessary "

Stealing? "The rich deserve it."

Adultery? "Marriage is an institution of the patriarchy "

Covet? I mean, that's the cornerstone of their entire marxists philosophy.

Bear false witness? How else are they suppose to spread their propaganda?

Pretty wild to think a bunch of barely literate sheep herders were able to compile a fairly functional list on how to keep a cohesive healthy society, only to see it dismantled 3,200 years later by Ivy League intellectuals who insist they know better.
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1:05p, 4/28/26
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Just like their father, they are evil and narcissistic and self lovers who hate God.

That's why
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1:37p, 4/28/26
That's just the second table. The first table is even worse.

No other gods? The government is their god.
Graven images? See social media.
Taking the Lord's name in vain? Just watch any show/movie today.
Keep the sabbath day holy? I can only think of a handful of businesses who close while their competitors don't.
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1:48p, 4/28/26
We post a hundred examples a day of the government screwing up basic services or abusing power and yet the religious right still wants to get the government involved with religious education. Weirdest contradiction I've seen. If we actually did what some of you all seem to want, I'd give it 3 months max before some pink haired teacher with a nose ring was telling your kids that "thou shalt not commit adultery" actually means we should support marriage between a male-to-female and a velociraptor furry.

Teach your kids about religion yourself. Keep the government out of it. They're going to completely **** up whatever you want them to teach.
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1:54p, 4/28/26
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I'm against the 10 commandments in schools because seemingly all of the politicians who insisted they be there are in violation of nearly all of them
Gig 'Em
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1:59p, 4/28/26
The point of the 10 commandments in classrooms is not to inspire children to be better people. If that was the case then the authors of the bill would have no issue with also including Buddhism's eightfold path, Hindu Yamas, the 5 pillars of Islam, Jainism 5 great vows, etc. The point is to emphasize one major world religion over others. There's a reason the founders saw fit to have a first amendment that doesn't allow the government to do that.
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In reply to Malibu • 2:00p, 4/28/26
Malibu said:
The point of the 10 commandments in classrooms is not to inspire children to be better people. If that was the case then the authors of the bill would have no issue with also including Buddhism's eightfold path, Hindu Yamas, the 5 pillars of Islam, Jainism 5 great vows, etc. The point is to emphasize one major world religion over others. There's a reason the founders saw fit to have a first amendment that doesn't allow the government to do that.


The founders were totally okay with States doing this. You know that, right?

I'm Gipper
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In reply to Im Gipper • 2:02p, 4/28/26
Im Gipper said:
Malibu said:
The point of the 10 commandments in classrooms is not to inspire children to be better people. If that was the case then the authors of the bill would have no issue with also including Buddhism's eightfold path, Hindu Yamas, the 5 pillars of Islam, Jainism 5 great vows, etc. The point is to emphasize one major world religion over others. There's a reason the founders saw fit to have a first amendment that doesn't allow the government to do that.

The founders were totally okay with States doing this. You know that, right?

This has been a moot point in our Federalist system for sometime.
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In reply to Malibu • 2:04p, 4/28/26
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Not the 8 Fold Path, but the 5 Precepts. The 8 Fold Path is the way to enlightenment. The 5 Precepts are more about morality.

No stealing
No lying
No killing
No sexual misconduct
No intoxicants

Like the 10 Commandments, not a bad way to live your life.
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In reply to Anonymous Source • 2:08p, 4/28/26
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I'm against the 10 commandments in schools because seemingly all of the politicians who insisted they be there are in violation of nearly all of them

We are all in violation of them.
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In reply to 4 • 2:14p, 4/28/26
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4 said:
Anonymous Source said:
I'm against the 10 commandments in schools because seemingly all of the politicians who insisted they be there are in violation of nearly all of them

We are all in violation of them.

Some more than others.
Gig 'Em
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2:15p, 4/28/26
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Under His eye
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In reply to 4 • 2:16p, 4/28/26
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Anonymous Source said:
I'm against the 10 commandments in schools because seemingly all of the politicians who insisted they be there are in violation of nearly all of them

We are all in violation of them.


So them being up in schools is to show everyone that no one is better than anyone else?

Works for me.

Now to see if it schools will put the Quran and the Ten Statements on each side of the commandments or if they'll be placed in alphabetical order.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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In reply to Malibu • 2:17p, 4/28/26
Malibu said:
The point of the 10 commandments in classrooms is not to inspire children to be better people. If that was the case then the authors of the bill would have no issue with also including Buddhism's eightfold path, Hindu Yamas, the 5 pillars of Islam, Jainism 5 great vows, etc. The point is to emphasize one major world religion over others. There's a reason the founders saw fit to have a first amendment that doesn't allow the government to do that.


I can think of two religions that believe in the Old Testament where the 10 commandments can be found. Which religion do you believe doesn't exist?
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In reply to Anonymous Source • 2:18p, 4/28/26
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I'm against the 10 commandments in schools because seemingly all of the politicians who insisted they be there are in violation of nearly all of them


I think they should put the Ten Commandments up next to the Code of Hammurabi just to show kids how bad things used to be, and that Moses was probably a plagiarist.
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In reply to Anonymous Source • 2:19p, 4/28/26
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I'm against the 10 commandments in schools because seemingly all of the politicians who insisted they be there are in violation of nearly all of them


You must be talking about the current Senate candidate championing this whole thing that got busted having an affair with a skeletor impersonator.

I find it amusing how so many on here rage about their contempt for the godless democrats on one thread and then go to another to support their lying, cheating, thieving candidate.
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In reply to AgDev01 • 2:27p, 4/28/26
All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. The concept of grace and a blameless Christ's crucifixion is to me the most beautiful thing about Christianity. The challenge of faith, or even a lack of belief in Christianity but an open mindedness that there is deep and universal wisdom in its teachings, is applying Christ's example and sacrifice to everyone, including those we vehemently disagree with and our own fellow political travelers.
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2:44p, 4/28/26
Ya'll do realize Muslims recognize the Ten Commandments, right?

Most civilized societies did, until marxists started to be "Cirtical" of them.
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In reply to Malibu • 2:46p, 4/28/26
Malibu said:
Im Gipper said:
Malibu said:
The point of the 10 commandments in classrooms is not to inspire children to be better people. If that was the case then the authors of the bill would have no issue with also including Buddhism's eightfold path, Hindu Yamas, the 5 pillars of Islam, Jainism 5 great vows, etc. The point is to emphasize one major world religion over others. There's a reason the founders saw fit to have a first amendment that doesn't allow the government to do that.

The founders were totally okay with States doing this. You know that, right?

This has been a moot point in our Federalist system for sometime.



Then why did you make a false claim about the founders?

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In reply to Burdizzo • 2:48p, 4/28/26
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Anonymous Source said:
I'm against the 10 commandments in schools because seemingly all of the politicians who insisted they be there are in violation of nearly all of them


I think they should put the Ten Commandments up next to the Code of Hammurabi just to show kids how bad things used to be, and that Moses was probably a plagiarist.


How bad things use to be?

I'm not sure if I'm following.

The code of Hammurabi would have been influential towards Abraham, for sure, but the laws in Deuteronomy show clear deviations from Hammurabi.

They also have at least 500 years separating them.

Calling Moses a "plagiarist" communicates a profound ignorance of the historical reality, not to mention the actual details of the separate law codes.
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In reply to Silent For Too Long • 2:48p, 4/28/26
The point is not which Abrahamic religions consider Deuteronomy to be a holy text. The point is that there is a reason that this holy text is used and not other holy texts that also have relevant and profound things to say about how one should comport themselves.
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2:52p, 4/28/26
The over secularization of our society has allowed the left to hijack our schools with their own religious insanity in disguise.

We have an entire generation of children who think things like lying, stealing and murder are situationally okay.

They also think cutting off their genitals is reasonable.

I would say the experiment in hyper secularization has been an abject failure.
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In reply to Burdizzo • 2:52p, 4/28/26
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Burdizzo said:
Anonymous Source said:
I'm against the 10 commandments in schools because seemingly all of the politicians who insisted they be there are in violation of nearly all of them


I think they should put the Ten Commandments up next to the Code of Hammurabi just to show kids how bad things used to be, and that Moses was probably a plagiarist.

So a plagiarist and a Mason ?
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In reply to Malibu • 2:53p, 4/28/26
Malibu said:
The point is not which Abrahamic religions consider Deuteronomy to be a holy text. The point is that there is a reason that this holy text is used and not other holy texts that also have relevant and profound things to say about how one should comport themselves.


Okay?
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In reply to Silent For Too Long • 2:59p, 4/28/26
Silent For Too Long said:
Malibu said:
The point is not which Abrahamic religions consider Deuteronomy to be a holy text. The point is that there is a reason that this holy text is used and not other holy texts that also have relevant and profound things to say about how one should comport themselves.


Okay?

Your OP is explicit that leftists hate the 10 commandments being posted because they are immoral heathens. I gave an alternative view of why people Like me who are very sympathetic to the precepts of the 10 commandments and against them being posted In schools. It is quite clear from the exclusion of other holy texts that the point is not to have a valuable character education, but instead to use the preferred religion of the laws authors as a privileged religion. I'm 100% against that
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In reply to Silent For Too Long • 3:01p, 4/28/26
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Silent For Too Long said:
Burdizzo said:
Anonymous Source said:
I'm against the 10 commandments in schools because seemingly all of the politicians who insisted they be there are in violation of nearly all of them


I think they should put the Ten Commandments up next to the Code of Hammurabi just to show kids how bad things used to be, and that Moses was probably a plagiarist.


How bad things use to be?

I'm not sure if I'm following.

The code of Hammurabi would have been influential towards Abraham, for sure, but the laws in Deuteronomy show clear deviations from Hammurabi.

They also have at least 500 years separating them.

Calling Moses a "plagiarist" communicates a profound ignorance of the historical reality, not to mention the actual details of the separate law codes.


The Ten Commandments does not speak to punishment, but the CoH is chock full of Death Penalties, Corporal Punishment, and disfigurement.

"See, kids? It could be a lot worse"
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In reply to Silent For Too Long • 3:11p, 4/28/26
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Sheep headers didn't come up with the list


Quote:
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight. As it is written: "He catches the wise in their craftiness"
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3:12p, 4/28/26
To follow on, the 1st commandment is "Thou shall have no other Gods before me." A Hindu kid in Texas Is violating the 1st commandment, agree? So what's the point of displaying that, character education or really driving home the point that the Texas government thinks you ought to reconsider your religious choices if they aren't in alignment? If the 10 commandments were 1 of many holy texts that were used for character education it would be less of a big deal, But singling out 1 text that explicitly makes clear how one is supposed to worship Is something that I have no interest in any government doing in schools.
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In reply to FrioAg 00 • 3:19p, 4/28/26
FrioAg 00 said:
Sheep headers didn't come up with the list


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For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight. As it is written: "He catches the wise in their craftiness"


I know, I meant that as a tongue in cheek juxtaposition.
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In reply to Malibu • 3:19p, 4/28/26
Malibu said:
To follow on, the 1st commandment is "Thou shall have no other Gods before me." A Hindu kid in Texas Is violating the 1st commandment, agree? So what's the point of displaying that, character education or really driving home the point that the Texas government thinks you ought to reconsider your religious choices if they aren't in alignment? If the 10 commandments were 1 of many holy texts that were used for character education it would be less of a big deal, But singling out 1 text that explicitly makes clear how one is supposed to worship Is something that I have no interest in any government doing in schools.


Oh my God, the horror.

Instead we get kids that think murder is ok. Much better situation.

ETA: I would have no problem displaying the 10 commandments alongside CoH, Dharma, etc.

I would rather have an authentic discussion of various ancient wisdom then the "do whatever you want" ethics of the marxists.
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3:21p, 4/28/26
Forum 16 likes themselves some Ten Commandments.

Forum 16 likes themselves some Ken Paxton.

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3:21p, 4/28/26
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I don't get the fascination with the 10 Commandments posted in the classroom. It is some weird obsession.

The party of "small government" sure enjoys trying to control everyone around them.

While also supporting adultry, voracious lying, and blatant corruption at the highest levels.

They literally are okay with whatever shenanigans Trump and his cronies do as long as they can "own the libs".



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3:24p, 4/28/26
And here come the non sequiturs

Predictable.
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3:27p, 4/28/26
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You can't impart American history on kids without teaching a fair and respectful understanding of the 10 commandments
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In reply to Silent For Too Long • 3:32p, 4/28/26
My religious preferences are deeply personal to me and are between me and God, and I have 0 interest in any kind of state involvement in mine or my children's religious preferences, even if I actually align with the state's preferences. When the state has a monopoly on legal violence, any kind of implied preference cannot be removed from that monopoly of violence, which is why I reject any slippery slope where the government tacitly endorses one religion. It's simply not the government's business, it's God's business.

You are making a different argument now though that the state does have an interest in the character development of its citizens, and ancient wisdom across the world's major religions have relevant contributions to that discussion. I agree, with the caveat that the implementation matters.
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