i suppose it gets easy to justify murder when you call crushing the skull and ripping the limbs off your baby and throwing it in a garbage can "healthcare".

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Morals and ethics come from parents and how they are raised. Period.

As a teacher I can guarantee you zero students look at or think about some dumb 10 Commandments poster.

It is this fake outrage at an insignificant thing.

While tolerating wholesale corruption at the highest levels. Clean your own house and then you can have a point.

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Morals and ethics absolutely have a place in pedagogy, and always have.

The fact that a certified teacher doesn't think so proves my point rather succinctly. Thank you.

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I attend church with several teachers. None of them support the Ten Commandment posters in public school classrooms. Their reasoning is that it should be an all or none practice. Display the laws/commandments of all religions or none of them. is their opinion. Morals and ethics can be taught in school without specifically using the Ten Commandments. All of my kids had character education programs and lessons taught in their classrooms in both the public schools and private Christian schools they have attended. The interesting thing to me is that neither of the private Christian schools my kids attended have the Ten Commandments posters displayed in classrooms.

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It's anecdotal, but my wife used to be a public school teacher and left. It's not surprising that the vast majority of the public school teachers would oppose it, because new teachers are inheriting a system that's decidedly secular. It's not the kind of system that would attract the kind of people who would support having the 10 commandments. My wife supports it. She's gone though.

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These teachers from my church aren't young teachers new to the profession. They are in their late 40s, 50s, and early 60s.

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But they're still public school teachers. The point is a culture's been established that's attractive to some and not others. Naturally churn will come from people who don't want to participate in it. The teachers at your church who disagree with the law are more likely to stick around than the people who agree in this instance.

Browsing around some teaching communities it looks like the current meta is to put up an alternative design that is still compliant with the law.

Example:

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The point is not which Abrahamic religions consider Deuteronomy to be a holy text. The point is that there is a reason that this holy text is used and not other holy texts that also have relevant and profound things to say about how one should comport themselves.

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Okay?

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Your OP is explicit that leftists hate the 10 commandments being posted because they are immoral heathens. I gave an alternative view of why people Like me who are very sympathetic to the precepts of the 10 commandments and against them being posted In schools. It is quite clear from the exclusion of other holy texts that the point is not to have a valuable character education, but instead to use the preferred religion of the laws authors as a privileged religion. I'm 100% against that

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You view all religions as being equal. I and most people do not. Islamist dont think all religions are ==. Most Jews dont buy that. This idea "we, our ideas, our religions are all ==", "all the same" is crap and is a relatively recent Western construct and a bad one rooted in early Proto-Marxist thought. It runs counter reality. Good luck getting all or most of humanity to buy in to that idea. Its not how we as a species are wired. Wish it was but nope.

I do not view all religions as equal. That does not mean that I believe it is the government's job to determine which religion is more equal than others.

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Browsing around some teaching communities it looks like the current meta is to put up an alternative design that is still compliant with the law.

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I can see Celtic and other Pagan prints used as well.

Gotta give them props for creativity i guess.

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Browsing around some teaching communities it looks like the current meta is to put up an alternative design that is still compliant with the law.

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This is exactly what I was talking about in my post at the top of page 1. If you let the progs into the religious education game - and like it or not, that's the result when you put religious education into public schools - you're going to absolutely HATE the results.

This is opening a can of worms that the "ten commandments in classrooms" advocates can't imagine right now. Just teach religion to your own kids. You'll like the results much more.

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Browsing around some teaching communities it looks like the current meta is to put up an alternative design that is still compliant with the law.

Example:

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This is exactly what I was talking about in my post at the top of page 1. If you let the progs into the religious education game - and like it or not, that's the result when you put religious education into public schools - you're going to absolutely HATE the results.

This is opening a can of worms that the "ten commandments in classrooms" advocates can't imagine right now. Just teach religion to your own kids. You'll like the results much more.

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Yeah, this is the thing that opened a can of worms. This is just now happening for the first time now that the 10 commandments are posted in classrooms.

The dog who didn't bark: the secularists and humanists gnashing their teeth on this thread AREN'T pointing to the "superior moral fabric" their system has produced across the last 50 years.

It's not WHETHER but WHICH. There will be a prevailing morality within any institution (government schools included), and those who champion "neutrality" really just mean "something close to mine."

Those claiming the morals and ethics embodied in the 10 Commandements are "obviouse" or "logical " desperately need to open up a history book.

You have been privileged growing up in the cradle of a Judeo-Christian Society. You take for granted the ethics and morals that entails, and will be sorely missing them if we let the marxists have their way.

Also, for those who don't think marixism is rampant in our schools, take the time to research Paul Friere. He's widely regarded as the godfather of modern pedagogy. He was also a rabid marxists.

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I'm against the 10 commandments in schools because seemingly all of the politicians who insisted they be there are in violation of nearly all of them

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yup

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I do not view all religions as equal. That does not mean that I believe it is the government's job to determine which religion is more equal than others.

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yup plus

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Also, for those who don't think marixism is rampant in our schools, take the time to research Paul Friere. He's widely regarded as the godfather of modern pedagogy. He was also a rabid marxists.

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I know a bunch of teachers. Not a single one of them advocates Marxism.

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Also, for those who don't think marixism is rampant in our schools, take the time to research Paul Friere. He's widely regarded as the godfather of modern pedagogy. He was also a rabid marxists.

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I know a bunch of teachers. Not a single one of them advocates Marxism.

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Nice anecdote. Here's the actual data:

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Based on a November 2025 Heartland Institute/Rasmussen Reports survey, a substantial portion of young voters believe their educators held a positive view of socialist ideology.52% of young likely voters (aged 18-39) recalled that their teachers or professors favored democratic socialism.

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Of course, regardless of the individual teachers political leanings, the pedagogical programs at the university level are heavily dominated by marxists. It is one of the central cornerstones of their methodology.