I don't know, 40% fatality is a little different than Covid.

Kashchei said:

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Just another reason to never take a cruise. Floating Petri dishes

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Ha!

You can quote me on that.

Never trust a soyboy who looks like Bighead from Silicon Valley

Ghost of Bisbee said:

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This is the most concerning part of the Hantavirus saga so far:

1) The sick woman was removed *before* the flight so that flight attendant had *MINIMAL* contact with her.

2) Andes Hantavirus normally only spreads human-to-human with significant long term contact.

3) This… https://t.co/w4dZYP9nK8

— Adam Cochran (adamscochran.eth) (@adamscochran) May 7, 2026

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this guy is fear mongering

The Dutch Health Authority has actually confirmed that 2/3 tests done on people on the flight have come back negative, the third pending the result. https://t.co/ehVGWiU9U9

— Alejandro Ortega (@aleortegan) May 7, 2026

How would this guy even know anyway? He doesnt know *****

Don't ride cruise ships or go to dirty countries.

Just heard on news the UK (University of Bath) is in Phase 1 trials of a promising vaccine.

So those predicting its a ploy to make pharma rich again may be on to something...

Rapier108 said:

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Ghost of Bisbee said:

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JUST IN: Scientists working to create hantavirus vaccine, per BBC.

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) May 7, 2026

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And if you bothered to actually do some checking instead of relying on the "Leading Report", which is well know overly sensational to outright fake news, the research the BBC article is referring to has been going on for a while now. It was not suddenly started in the last few days.

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Stop the gaslighting. It is a statement of fact, it is not incorrect or misleading.

And in response to your other post, I don't vote blue.

flown-the-coop said:

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Just heard on news the UK (University of Bath) is in Phase 1 trials of a promising vaccine.

So those predicting its a ploy to make pharma rich again may be on to something...

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As I said on the previous page, the vaccine has been in development for sometime so the outbreak has nothing to do with it being tested.

flown-the-coop said:

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Just heard on news the UK (University of Bath) is in Phase 1 trials of a promising vaccine.

So those predicting its a ploy to make pharma rich again may be on to something...

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You laugh, but I guarantee there are people breaking down the door to get jabbed with it.

Rapier108 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Just heard on news the UK (University of Bath) is in Phase 1 trials of a promising vaccine.

So those predicting its a ploy to make pharma rich again may be on to something...

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As I said on the previous page, the vaccine has been in development for sometime so the outbreak has nothing to do with it being tested.

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Yea, the timing and amplification of the outbreak at the same time as vax trials is awfully convenient.

Old people died because they tried to pet the diseased Capybara whilst watching rare seagulls.

The cruise ship connected to the hantavirus outbreak has docked in the Canary Islands.

Passengers are being taken off the ship and will be put on chartered airplanes to return them to their home countries.

Passengers were assessed on the ship for symptoms, but apparently were not tested for the virus before being allowed to leave.

One of the five passengers from France developed symptoms on the flight back to France, and all five are now in "strict isolation."

The 17 Americans are going to be taken to the National Quarantine Unit at the University of Nebraska Medical Center in Omaha.

(These 17 are in addition to at least six Americans who left the ship earlier and have already returned to the US.)

WHO recommends monitoring for 42 days, but of course that clock has to restart every time someone gets sick and could have infected the people around them.

In the outbreak in Argentina in 2018-2019, transmission was rather easy in some cases. One person was infected because Patient #1 said hello as they passed in the hall going to and from the bathroom.

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Red Pear Realty said:

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My wife's grandmother had to go to a nursing home in Seguin a few years ago. When we cleaned out her house, she had basically filled an entire room full of toilet paper still in the mega packs. Wild. We didn't know what to do with it.

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You use it to wipe your butt after taking a poo. It's really a nifty invention.

Glad to help.

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Would have been very profitable in the spring of 2020.

I think we're going to need to add another forum. Right below the Rona panic forum.

It would be interesting to see how many double down.

Turns out that the 17 Americans who are going to the Quarantine Center in Nebraska are not going to be quarantined there.

They are going to be assessed and, as long as they agree to be "monitored" for 42 days, are going to be allowed to go home and self-quarantine.

Interesting side-note to the Hantavirus saga.

"A Royal Air Force Airbus A400M has been used to parachute British Army medical personnel and supplies to Tristan da Cunha, a remote South Atlantic territory with no airstrip, after a suspected case of Hantavirus on the island."

BALLSY

K2-HMFIC said:

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Will be interesting to see how much this spreads and how people react…especially post Covid.

Hantavirus has a 30% mortality rate and until this month had never jumped from person to person (has always been animal to human).

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30% maybe with treatment. If untreated, it is much, much higher. There is also naturally some variation in how the disease was acquired. I think that it is much worse odds if you breathe it in than if you are bitten by or eaten an infected animal.

There was a proven case of human to human transmission in Argentina years ago. If I remember correctly, there was a paper about it in Emerging Infectious Diseases from the CDC. I don't remember what year, but my recollection would put it somewhere in the 2000 to 2003 time period.

OldArmy71 said:

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The cruise ship connected to the hantavirus outbreak has docked in the Canary Islands.

Passengers are being taken off the ship and will be put on chartered airplanes to return them to their home countries.

Passengers were assessed on the ship for symptoms, but apparently were not tested for the virus before being allowed to leave.

One of the five passengers from France developed symptoms on the flight back to France, and all five are now in "strict isolation."

The 17 Americans are going to be taken to the National Quarantine Unit at the University of Nebraska Medical Center in Omaha.

(These 17 are in addition to at least six Americans who left the ship earlier and have already returned to the US.)

WHO recommends monitoring for 42 days, but of course that clock has to restart every time someone gets sick and could have infected the people around them.

In the outbreak in Argentina in 2018-2019, transmission was rather easy in some cases. One person was infected because Patient #1 said hello as they passed in the hall going to and from the bathroom.

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Almost like they want this to spread.

A simple blood test of everyone would confirm or rule out infection.

I find it humerous we've already seen medical professionals with the old "well people aren't contagious unless they're exhibiting symptoms" trope.

They rolled that out at the beginning of COVID and then later had to admit they were talking out their ass when they made that bold claim.

They should have kept people quarantined on the ship.

Terribly inconvenient, but how dumb to let people off and spread all over the world.

No one on the ship had symptoms when they were allowed off, but one of the French passengers became ill during the flight to France.

Why in the world would the CDC assume that the American passengers who have not shown symptoms can safely be released into the population?

OldArmy71 said:

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They should have kept people quarantined on the ship.

Terribly inconvenient, but how dumb to let people off and spread all over the world.

No one on the ship had symptoms when they were allowed off, but one of the French passengers became ill during the flight to France.

Why in the world would the CDC assume that the American passengers who have not shown symptoms can safely be released into the population?

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Should we shut down the global economy?

No, you shut down the disease before it spreads. You don't give it a number of pathways to spread.

The last thing you want to do is to give people the sense that authorities are not taking this seriously and doing all they can to stop it.

In 2018-2019 a person in Argentina was infected with a strain of hantavirus that can be transmitted to other humans.

34 infections and 11 deaths.

OldArmy71 said:

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In 2018-2019 a person in Argentina was infected with a strain of hantavirus that can be transmitted to other humans.

34 infections and 11 deaths.

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I may be wrong, but I think that the earlier one was the first time they could prove person to person transmission.

If I remember correctly, it was someone who had visited someone in the hospital with hantavirus and they confirmed by genetic analysis that tie viruses each were infect with were genetically identical.

There were cases in Argentina in 1996 that AI says were the first proven examples of human to human transmission.

50% fatality rate.

EID de Melker H, Conyn-van Spaendonck M, Rmke H, van Wijngaarden J, Mooi F, Schellekens J. Pertussis in the Netherlands: an Outbreak Despite High Levels of Immunization with Whole-Cell Vaccine. Emerg Infect Dis. 1997;3(2):175-178. https://doi.org/10.3201/eid0302.970211

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/3/2/97-0210_article

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Twenty-one and 20 days, respectively, after the index patient became symptomatic, his 70-year-old mother (patient B) and one of his doctors (patient A) contracted HPS. The doctor's spouse, also a doctor (patient C), became ill with HPS 27 days after her husband's first symptoms (19 days after his death). She traveled to Buenos Aires for medical care. In a Buenos Aires hospital, an admitting doctor (patient D) spent 1 hour taking a clinical history and examining her. The doctor (patient D) applied pressure to a venipuncture site on patient C's arm with multiple layers of gauze; no obvious blood contact occurred. The only other contact between this doctor and patient C occurred 2 days later, when the doctor briefly visited the hospital's intensive care unit to attend to another patient. Twenty-four days after attending patient C, the doctor became ill with HPS. The doctor, patient D, had not traveled outside Buenos Aires, and she reported no contact with rodents during the 2 months preceding her illness (5).

A 40-year-old doctor (patient E) from Buenos Aires contracted HPS 17 days after patient C was admitted to the hospital. This doctor was a friend of patients A and C and spent 3 days in El Bolsn after the death of patient A. She visited patient C often in the hospital but was not directly involved in the clinical management of any HPS patients. A fifth doctor with HPS (patient F) reported having close contact with several HPS patients. He intubated patient B and examined patients I and G. He also had daily contact with his colleague, (patient A), and spoke briefly with patient I's sister (patient H), brother-in-law (patient J), and friend (patient K).

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A second group of HPS cases occurred in Bariloche. Four people who had visited or worked in the hospital to which many of the El Bolsn patients were transferred (a modern 40-bed facility with a three-bed intensive care unit) contracted HPS: the hospital's night receptionist (patient N), a 40-year-old woman (patient O) who visited an unrelated patient, a 27-year-old man (patient P), and his wife (patient Q). Patients P and Q developed a close relationship with patient N during their many visits to the hospital between September 20 (when their 27-week-gestation baby was born) and October 27 (when the baby died). The three shared mate (a local tea drunk through a communal metal straw), and patient P occasionally rested on patient N's camp bed. The baby got abdominal distention and shock 37 days after birth. The clinical signs suggested necrotizing enterocolitis, but no serum or tissue specimens from the infant were available for definitive diagnosis.

The remaining three HPS patients in El Bolsn during this period were men aged 44 (patient G), 29 (patient R), and 14 (patient T) years. Patients G and T were friends or acquaintances of one or more of the HPS patients, but did not recall contact with an HPS patient in the 6 weeks before the onset of their symptoms.

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OldArmy71 said:

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There were cases in Argentina in 1996 that AI says were the first proven examples of human to human transmission.

50% fatality rate.

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So this thing has been capable of human to human transmission for 30 years and has a 50% fatality rate? How are any of us still alive?

Edit: This was in jest. My understanding is that Hantavirus transmits very differently from Covid or the flu (as someone else mentions below) and that's why experts seem to be fairly confident that this isn't worth worrying about if you're not directly involved.

AggieBaseball06 said:

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OldArmy71 said:

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There were cases in Argentina in 1996 that AI says were the first proven examples of human to human transmission.

50% fatality rate.

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So this thing has been capable of human to human transmission for 30 years and has a 50% fatality rate? How are any of us still alive?

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Universal masking and mail in ballots for everybody.

OldArmy71 said:

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There were cases in Argentina in 1996 that AI says were the first proven examples of human to human transmission.

50% fatality rate.

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Next time ask AI for its source and post that. Instead of telling us all what "AI says"

AggieBaseball06 said:

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OldArmy71 said:

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There were cases in Argentina in 1996 that AI says were the first proven examples of human to human transmission.

50% fatality rate.

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So this thing has been capable of human to human transmission for 30 years and has a 50% fatality rate? How are any of us still alive?

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We haven't let Dr. Fauci get his hands on it yet, that's why we are still alive.

AggieBaseball06 said:

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OldArmy71 said:

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There were cases in Argentina in 1996 that AI says were the first proven examples of human to human transmission.

50% fatality rate.

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So this thing has been capable of human to human transmission for 30 years and has a 50% fatality rate? How are any of us still alive?

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One, it's still up for debate.

Two, an infectious disease with a mortality rate that high generally makes people too sick and kills them too fast for it to be widely transmissible. Combine that with a pathogen that lacks robust transmission virulence factors and it's never going to result in widespread transmission.

Surely there is a clinic in China somewhere we can fund to solve that pesky "kills too quickly" and "isn't transmitted easily" problem