Ag_07 said:
As far as Carter is concerned I'd be more worried about his recent on-field struggles at his pro day than I would be his off field issues.
Which is odd because before the pro day it was the opposite, but you can't ignore gaining 9 lbs in two weeks, not lifting or running a 40, and not being able to compete drills that he did participate in.
McShay went on a deep dive on the first draft podcast this week about Carter. He did indicate he's had character concerns about him from what he's heard at Georgia. He's late for meetings, doesn't practice hard either. He also said that he 100% shows up at the games. The pro day stuff I'm guessing is probably impacted by stress related to what he's been dealing with on a personal level. Guys tend to show up at the combine in the best shape of their lives, a guy that weighed 314 at the combine showing up at 323 doesn't concern me. He gained less than 3% of his body weight, not a big deal IMO.
If he's there at 12 I think Ryans is the kind of coach that would be good for him. But I don't think he's going to be there at 12 regardless. He's still going top 10, I think he goes at 5 to Seattle, Pete Carroll has no issues taking a guy with potential character concerns. If he's there then Seattle runs to the podium with that pick. He's still likely the first defensive player taken in the draft. I think LV is going to pick up the phone and try to trade with Arizona to get in front of Indy at 3.
Also of note McShay went fairly deep on the WRs that are likely to be taken in the first round. Johnston, Addison, JSN, Flowers, and Hyatt. His interpretation of Johnston is that he's a bigger version of Hopkins, only real knock on him seems to be his route running, but he's not asked to do much in that regard at TCU, he's so physically gifted he can rely on that over precision. Addison is the opposite, but Addison isn't a no 1 receiver. JSN is the most well rounded, but nothing he does is exceptional, which is going to limit his ceiling to being at best a no 2 WR. Flowers and Hyatt sounded more like no 2 or 3 receivers. Johnston was the only one he sounded like had the potential to be a no 1 but he was hesitant on that.
The more he talked about the WRs the less impressed I was. It made me believe that our best options at 12 are offensive line or defensive line prospects. He was really big on Lukas Van Ness from Iowa, even though he's never started a game, but he played starter reps, he came just short of saying that it's a Ferentz issue and not a Van Ness issue. Van Ness came late to football, was more of a hockey player growing up, still has the ability to be molded into the player he has the potential to be. He can play outside or inside the OT so he's got some flexibility.
If we absolutely have to get a receiving option in the first round it might be better to consider Dalton Kincaid or Michael Mayer at TE. He was also big on both of those guys.
IMO dark horse position at 12 would be cb. There's some really nice prospects in the draft. Stingley on one side is a great start, a top notch cb to go on the opposite side shouldn't be discounted at 12. I also think that position group could drop as a whole in this draft. We potentially will our pick of all the db's in this draft at 12. Witherspoon, Gonzalez, Porter, etc.
