Actually that is another sneaky good hire for this young team, he's been a QB coach for Washington, Seattle, Philadelphia, and Cincinnati and an offensive coordinator for U of Virginia, Dolphins, Bengals, and the Bears. So like Shane Day (another senior offensive assistant), he has a lot of experience in the league and can help mentor this young offensive staff.The Porkchop Express said:
I'm assuming Bill Lazor is some sort of cyborg.
I'm sure the Bears would like to move the pick, but they also probably would like to add either Carter or Anderson. If you're going to trade down more than a few picks, so much so that it takes you out of the first tier of talent in this year's draft, then the return has to just be ridiculous (i.e., multiple first round picks).The Porkchop Express said:
and that's why you don't tank the whole season, then decide to be the Comeback Kids in the 4th quarter of Game 17 ...
Source: Bears leaning towards moving No. 1 pick
I hold no grudges against Lovie for trying to win. Regardless of how we got here we are starting 2023 with DeMeco Ryans as the HC, 2 first round picks including number 2, and significant cap space. Houston needs make time to talk to Young, Stroud, Anderson, and Carter at every chance they get. Combine, pro days, in person meetings in Houston. Don't let Chicago think they can move down to 4 and still have the chance to draft one of the two best defensive prospects automatically. They should be sweating bullets. If Indy trades up to 1, part of me thinks it will be to get in front of Arizona. I could see LV or Carolina trying to move up to 3 to get in front of Indy. If Chicago wants to see what that pick is really worth they're not going to trade it until draft day anyway.Snake Jazz said:I'm sure the Bears would like to move the pick, but they also probably would like to add either Carter or Anderson. If you're going to trade down more than a few picks, so much so that it takes you out of the first tier of talent in this year's draft, then the return has to just be ridiculous (i.e., multiple first round picks).The Porkchop Express said:
and that's why you don't tank the whole season, then decide to be the Comeback Kids in the 4th quarter of Game 17 ...
Source: Bears leaning towards moving No. 1 pick
For this reason, the Texans need to have a great poker face. We have no idea what their draft board looks like, but if they believe that it's Bryce Young or bust at the QB position, go ahead and hint/leak that that is the case. That if the QB of their choice (whoever that might be) is off the board, they're going to take best available.
Because, if I'm the Bears and I really think I have to get Anderson or Carter, trading with the Colts might really screw them over. Trade to the Colts, they take a QB at 1, then Anderson and Carter go with the next two picks and you're debating over who is best in the second tier.
I would have absolutely no problem with the Texans punting the QB decision to next year if they think Anderson or Carter is just too good to pass and that second place in the QB derby is no real prize.
And, yes, just thinking about all of this makes me angry about the way Lovie played the Colts this season. We go for the freaking tie in the first game (I knew that would come back to haunt us), then go for broke in the final game and pick up every "miraculous" play we need. He really did his previous employer a solid.
gambochaman said:
Why are people talking about the texans trading up to 1
I stg if they do this shiz…
Smart of the Bearscanadiaggie said:gambochaman said:
Why are people talking about the texans trading up to 1
I stg if they do this shiz…
I don't think they will, but Chicago really wants to turn the heat up on the organisation between now and draft day so that they do.
I have a better idea. What if they just straight up called Indy and talked about trading down? Tell them that we're not sold on any QBs in the draft, we're happy to see who's there at 4 and whoever they pick and whoever we pick get to play twice a year to see who chose correctly. Tell them trading up to 1 is much more expensive than trading up to 2 from 4. Just confirm that Chicago will want more than what is reasonable, but we're very reasonable. Reiterate that Chicago isn't taking a QB so they'll have their pick of any QB they want at 2. Just really lay it on thick and mess with them, just to give them some doubt about wtf is going on. But when all is said and done we just sit at 2 and take the QB we want.LincolnBorglum79 said:
A great strategy for Houston is to let it slip that Young is the only QB they want and Chicago will miss out on Anderson and probably Carter if they trade with Indy. If the Bears want to trade back up to 2 we will take everything Indy gave them plus their (Bears] first rounder next year. Then we take CJ Stroud at 4 and go on about our business.
An arrest warrant has reportedly been issued for Jalen Carter’s arrest for his alleged involvement in a crash last month that killed his teammate.
— NFL Rookie Watch (@NFLRookieWatxh) March 1, 2023
The warrant is for alleged “reckless driving and racing”
The Georgia DL was scheduled to meet with media today at the NFL Combine. pic.twitter.com/EM4mho23Wl
The combine is going to be huge for the 4 QB's likely to go in the first. Young is just there to get measured and do interviews, but Stroud, Levis, and Richardson are all working out/throwing at the combine. Best case scenario for Chicago is for that to not happen and for everyone think that Young is the only one worthy of the 1st overall pick. I personally doubt that's the case. Everyone knows Stroud can throw and is probably the best pure passer in the draft, his athleticism is what will interest everyone. Levis and Richardson are the most athletic, they could both greatly improve their stock at the combine.Texan_Aggie said:
Indy has to decide how much having their pick of the QB is worth. Hopefully, they trade lots of draft capital to do it.
My gut tells me either Chicago doesn't trade or its traded to someone not currently rumored to want it.
Yikes. How many millions in draft slot is this going to cost him?chjoak said:
Could have a huge impact on Chicago's willingness to move...An arrest warrant has reportedly been issued for Jalen Carter’s arrest for his alleged involvement in a crash last month that killed his teammate.
— NFL Rookie Watch (@NFLRookieWatxh) March 1, 2023
The warrant is for alleged “reckless driving and racing”
The Georgia DL was scheduled to meet with media today at the NFL Combine. pic.twitter.com/EM4mho23Wl
Right now I say no to that deal for just a second round pick this year. I'm still of the mindset that there's a drop off from Young & Stroud to Levis & Richardson. 7 also puts us out of contention for Anderson & Carter...though the Carter arrest situation immediately shakes things up. If LV calls to grab one of those guys I give them 2 options:chjoak said:
Soooo... let's say that Chicago pulls a deal with Indy. It is assumed that Indy is looking for a QB. #2 pick is coming up and we can take Anderson but the Raiders call. Indy didn't pick their guy and they don't want to risk losing him. Are you willing to trade down to #7 and if so what does the package have to look like? Keep in mind that LV on has their own picks in the 1st-4th this year and 1st-5th next year. Does 1st & 2nd this year & next get the job done?
Wow, Anderson and Carter together would instantly change the trajectory of our defense in 1 year....assuming Carter doesn't go to jailAg_07 said:
Not a lawyer but that seems like a teed up manslaughter charge.
If he falls to 12 I wouldn't be mad at the Texans taking him.
What an incredible haul that would be to take Bryce/Anderson at 2 then Carter at 12.
Weird that the small town police aren't being aggressive against the local star college athlete.The Porkchop Express said:
The details say Carter was racing the car that ended up crashing and killing 2 people. his charges are both misdemeanors, but regardless it's going to look bad. SEC having a real problem lately of failing to mention that star players were at places where something really bad happened.
Sources: #Texans are among several formal meetings for @FloridaGators quarterback Anthony Richardson @GVOaant Texans meeting with the top quarterbacks at #NFLCombine2023 @KPRC2https://t.co/tZQzPsl5cq
— Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) March 2, 2023
Bobby Jimbo said:Sources: #Texans are among several formal meetings for @FloridaGators quarterback Anthony Richardson @GVOaant Texans meeting with the top quarterbacks at #NFLCombine2023 @KPRC2https://t.co/tZQzPsl5cq
— Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) March 2, 2023
mAgnoliAg said:
Neither cardale Jones nor Dwayne Haskins were near the athlete Richardson is.
Mr.Bond said:mAgnoliAg said:
Neither cardale Jones nor Dwayne Haskins were near the athlete Richardson is.
I'm beyond confident Richardson will be out of the league within 5 years. Dudes the definition of a hope and prayer project
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Bryce Young on his size: "I've been this size, respectfully, my whole life… it's fair. People can ask questions." Says he's confident in himself.
Bryce Young says he's been "around the 200-pound range"
Bryce Young says his meeting with the Texans "was great." Just being in the room, he says he "got a lot of wisdom."
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CJ Stroud says he wants to show his foundation to teams, wants to be unapologetically be himself and let them know he can lead a room. Also wants them to know about his football IQ and that he's a student of the game.
CJ Stroud says he's a "free flowing but still disciplined" quarterback. He's confident in himself but can take the routine play when needed. "You're not always trying to be Super Man, but when you can extend the play, you get respect from your teammates."
CJ Stroud says he's a "ball-placement specialist," says there's plenty of film to showcase his accuracy.
CJ Stroud says he's been the best player in college football the last two years and he still can prove to himself that there's more to his potential.
CJ Stroud wore No. 7 because of Michael Vick. Says he "looks up" to Deshaun Watson, and sees similarities to their games.
CJ Stroud says he didn't showcase his athleticism enough in college, rolling out of the pocket, wishes he'd done it more to prove he could, but he believes there's things like the Georgia game that show he's done it.
CJ Stroud credits his high school training for his accuracy. His coach would call bubble screens, and if he didn't hit the receiver's outside shoulder, he'd have to do 10 pushups.
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Anthony Richardson, a rising draft prospect, rejects the premise from a reporter that he's got a "project label," saying "I don't even know what that means" and that he can provide things to NFL teams now.
Florida quarterback Anthony Richardson said his meeting with the #Texans was 'informative'
Florida quarterback Anthony Richardson said he grew up emulating Cam Newton and Lamar Jackson
Asked Anthony Richardson how fast he is at the 40. He deadpanned with a grin: "I'd say I'm fast." Another reporter asked what his target is at the combine. "I'd say my target is fast," he smiled. "Not trying to put any numbers out there."
Anthony Richardson on his arm strength, says when he takes off some of the strength his accuracy lessens. "I don't care if somebody complains about it being thrown too hard. They better catch it."
