Not impressed nor am I surprised by this. Smells like a typical Casserio move
maca1028 said:
I really don't like Casserio
MelvinUdall said:maca1028 said:
I really don't like Casserio
Outside of his issues with putting together a good OL through FA/Draft, he is by far our best GM the Texans have ever had…he has found tremendous value in talent in the 3rd round and beyond. Again outside of the OL, he has also found good talent in FA that has worked out…the hate for Ceserio is really odd.
IrishAg said:MelvinUdall said:maca1028 said:
I really don't like Casserio
Outside of his issues with putting together a good OL through FA/Draft, he is by far our best GM the Texans have ever had…he has found tremendous value in talent in the 3rd round and beyond. Again outside of the OL, he has also found good talent in FA that has worked out…the hate for Ceserio is really odd.
It's the focus on the bad, and not appreciating the good. I blame the success we had in DeMeco's first season, it's skewed expectations hard. I find myself having issues with Casserio hate, so it's just reflex I guess.
maca1028 said:
Yes, he's done some good things, and yes, the first season under Demeco may have skewed expectations a bit given the success on the offense. But offensively they have struggled to build off of it. The offensive staff and players are reportedly, in large part, the GM's side of the ball.
I want a championship in Houston, I'm just not convinced that Casserio can put together a team to win it all.
My expectations are too high I guess.
MelvinUdall said:maca1028 said:
I really don't like Casserio
Outside of his issues with putting together a good OL through FA/Draft, he is by far our best GM the Texans have ever had…he has found tremendous value in talent in the 3rd round and beyond. Again outside of the OL, he has also found good talent in FA that has worked out…the hate for Ceserio is really odd.
IrishAg said:
https://heavy.com/sports/nfl/houston-texans/caserio-trade-dolphins-achane-salary-cap-contract/
Oh, no clue who the site is, but it popped up in my feed.
We get Achane
Dolphins get
- 2026 third-round pick
- 2027 conditional third-round pick (becomes second with 1,000 rushing yards in 2026)
Even taking the A&M homer out of me, I would be good with this
Nice. The old sunk cost fallacy. Haven't seen that one in a bit.Snake Jazz said:
I'm always a little surprised at just how much hate both Caserio and Stroud get on this thread.
Caserio has done a poor job of drafting offensive linemen and I, too, don't like that every coach or front office guy he brings in seems to be either a former Patriot or John Carroll alumnus or both. It's weird. I wish he was more hands-off...seems to micromanage the coaches, especially on the offensive side of the ball. However, he generally makes smart moves when it comes to personnel and salary cap and if you want to gripe about the offensive line, you also have to give him credit for putting together arguably the best defense in the game. I love his draft strategy of being flexible and moving around to target your needs and get value. I hate waiting patiently just to see all of the guys you could have used get drafted right in front of you. The good outweighs the bad with Caserio.
Someone accused me of acting like Stroud's agent earlier just because I said we should pick up his fifth year option and see what we have in him this year before throwing in the towel. He has regressed over the past two years, for sure, but all of the physical skills are there to be an elite passer. Letting JJ go and promoting Schuplinski is a gamble, but maybe the new coach will get the most out of him. Either way, you have too much invested in Stroud to give up on him now. This season should absolutely be a referendum on whether or not Stroud is your QB going forward. I think he will have a rebound season and play pretty well. If not, you can start looking at Plan B.
Buck Compton said:Snake Jazz said:
I'm always a little surprised at just how much hate both Caserio and Stroud get on this thread.
Caserio has done a poor job of drafting offensive linemen and I, too, don't like that every coach or front office guy he brings in seems to be either a former Patriot or John Carroll alumnus or both. It's weird. I wish he was more hands-off...seems to micromanage the coaches, especially on the offensive side of the ball. However, he generally makes smart moves when it comes to personnel and salary cap and if you want to gripe about the offensive line, you also have to give him credit for putting together arguably the best defense in the game. I love his draft strategy of being flexible and moving around to target your needs and get value. I hate waiting patiently just to see all of the guys you could have used get drafted right in front of you. The good outweighs the bad with Caserio.
Someone accused me of acting like Stroud's agent earlier just because I said we should pick up his fifth year option and see what we have in him this year before throwing in the towel. He has regressed over the past two years, for sure, but all of the physical skills are there to be an elite passer. Letting JJ go and promoting Schuplinski is a gamble, but maybe the new coach will get the most out of him. Either way, you have too much invested in Stroud to give up on him now. This season should absolutely be a referendum on whether or not Stroud is your QB going forward. I think he will have a rebound season and play pretty well. If not, you can start looking at Plan B.
Nice. The old sunk cost fallacy. Haven't seen that one in a bit.
Stroud gets hate because he single handedly lost us a playoff game with our best chance to get to Super Bowl. Because he has regressed every year. Because he doesn't appear to have any light at the end of the tunnel (unless it's a train coming to run him over). His fifth year option is going to be $40m+. We don't need to pick that up for him to play for us this year. He's playing for his NFL career at this point, why give him a safety net.
And if we're being honest, people are extra hating on stroud because his faults down the stretch were basically a carbon copy of how Marcel lost the Aggies our playoff game. Amazing defenses wasted by poor QB play.
I like Caserio overall though. No one is going to be perfect but he's been very good. Much more than "average". I don't get the QB coach promotion but I 100% get not staying with Jerrod when the position he coaches cost us our chance at a Super Bowl.
Snake Jazz said:
I'm always a little surprised at just how much hate both Caserio and Stroud get on this thread.
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Buck Compton said:
$27 does change the calculus. I wouldn't be mad at that from Caserio if he feels good about the cap situation. $15.7 for WAJ is a steal.
I assumed it would be the $40m number because of his pro bowl, but he must have been an alternate.
https://overthecap.com/fifth-year-option-projectionsQuote:
Basic: Players who do not meet any of the requirements below will be eligible for a fifth year base salary calculated from the average of the 3rd to 25th highest salaries at their position over the past five seasons.
Playtime: These players will be eligible for a fifth year base salary calculated from the average of the 3rd to 20th highest salaries at their position over the past five seasons, provided that their snap counts over their first three seasons meet one of the following three criteria: 75% or greater in two of their first three seasons an average of 75% or greater over all three seasons 50% or greater over all three seasons
One Pro Bowl: Players who are named to exactly one Pro Bowl on the original ballot (not as an alternate) will be eligible for a fifth year base salary equal to the transition tender at their position.
Multiple Pro Bowls: Players who are named to two or three Pro Bowls on the original ballot (not as an alternate) will be eligible for a fifth year base salary equal to the franchise tender at their position.
Yoda said:
"I still have nightmares of taking your franchise player and rather than get him help, you burn a 4th rounder on dave ragone."
To be fair, Charley Casserly did not burn a 4th round pick on Dave Ragone. It was a 3rd rounder.
dixie whiskey said:Yoda said:
"I still have nightmares of taking your franchise player and rather than get him help, you burn a 4th rounder on dave ragone."
To be fair, Charley Casserly did not burn a 4th round pick on Dave Ragone. It was a 3rd rounder.
it's probably a sign it's not healthy for me to be a fan of a particular sports team when my brain has to alter memories in order to protect me from the psychological fallout of having to process what actually happened. the texans could have held a radio contest that allowed winning fans to handle personnel decisions and i can't see it being worse than charley. i was trying to remember any draft picks he made during his tenure that really turned out to be good players. so far my list is just dunta robinson and dominick davis/williams. im sure he must have had at least a couple more but when fans who weren't around for that era talk about the franchise being awful, they should be forced to clockwork orange watch every draft, game, and press conference of the first 4 years. it never really hit me just how bad it was until kubiak and schaub came in and we got to see a texans qb throw between the hash marks on purpose and not to the other team and it was such a foreign feeling, almost like it was a shock to be reminded a qb can even do that. for so long the only way you saw a texans qb complete a long pass was if the rb ran a long way after catching a dump off
Texan_Aggie said:dixie whiskey said:Yoda said:
"I still have nightmares of taking your franchise player and rather than get him help, you burn a 4th rounder on dave ragone."
To be fair, Charley Casserly did not burn a 4th round pick on Dave Ragone. It was a 3rd rounder.
it's probably a sign it's not healthy for me to be a fan of a particular sports team when my brain has to alter memories in order to protect me from the psychological fallout of having to process what actually happened. the texans could have held a radio contest that allowed winning fans to handle personnel decisions and i can't see it being worse than charley. i was trying to remember any draft picks he made during his tenure that really turned out to be good players. so far my list is just dunta robinson and dominick davis/williams. im sure he must have had at least a couple more but when fans who weren't around for that era talk about the franchise being awful, they should be forced to clockwork orange watch every draft, game, and press conference of the first 4 years. it never really hit me just how bad it was until kubiak and schaub came in and we got to see a texans qb throw between the hash marks on purpose and not to the other team and it was such a foreign feeling, almost like it was a shock to be reminded a qb can even do that. for so long the only way you saw a texans qb complete a long pass was if the rb ran a long way after catching a dump off
Andre Johnson. Demeco Ryans, Mario Williams, Owen Daniels...
IrishAg said:
https://heavy.com/sports/nfl/houston-texans/caserio-trade-dolphins-achane-salary-cap-contract/
Oh, no clue who the site is, but it popped up in my feed.
We get Achane
Dolphins get
- 2026 third-round pick
- 2027 conditional third-round pick (becomes second with 1,000 rushing yards in 2026)
Even taking the A&M homer out of me, I would be good with this
mAgnoliAg said:
2 utterly ridiculous athletes at TE. Time to take one
Sources: The #Texans and #Browns have agreed to terms on a trade to send starting RT Tytus Howard to Cleveland in exchange for a fifth-round pick.
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 2, 2026
Much-needed OL help. Plus, Howard gets a new 3-year, $63M extension in a deal done by @malkikawa and Ethan Lock of @FirstRoundMgmt. pic.twitter.com/3X2PprFIjN