Ok, this makes me feel a little bit better about their additions to the OL now…there is some flexibility on what they can do in the draft.

I like this signing a lot

PFF grades are sort pedestrian. Hopefully he can get back to Pro Bowl form.

PFF also has Stingley as like the 60th best DE, so I take it with a grain of salt.

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PFF also has Stingley as like the 60th best DE, so I take it with a grain of salt.

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PFF has Lassiter ranked as the 7th best CB in the NFL in 2025, regardless of much I like Lassiter, he's not a better CB than Stingley. Just by trying to quantify the players in order to rank them pretty much confirms it's a flawed system. Don't get me wrong, I love that they look at all these different metrics to try and put a number on them across the league but it's an imperfect system to say the least. When you actually look at how the players rank because of their own grades it makes the argument against itself.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-highest-graded-cornerbacks-2025-nfl-season

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He was playing hurt a lot of the time last year, from what I understand.

Biggest thing for me is that we now have all the pieces for an average to good starting offensive line with solid depth already in place going into the draft. We aren't locked into a position for our 1st or 2nd picks and can grab whoever is at the top of our board irregardless of position. I think we should still focus on o-line, but would have hated for us to miss on someone we love dropping all because we HAD to take an oline to fill a starting role this year.

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Agreed, I think Caserio has been working so that he doesn't have to target any specific position with the first round pick. Center is still a need but the centers in this draft can be had on day two. I think he's concerned that even though this is a good offensive line draft, there's going to be a run and it's going to start early. In a lot of mock drafts it seems like the defensive line prospects are starting to fall. Yes I know they're mock drafts, but a lot of those guys are connected to people in the league who make personnel decisions. Some of those drafts I've seen recently even have guys like Keldric Faulk falling to the late first round. I've seen Peter Woods fall into the second round. I'm at the point where I won't be shocked if the first round pick is a defensive lineman and when this all kicked off I figured they had to go OL and nothing else in the first round. My preference is still best OL available in the first, but it's pretty clear that he's making moves so that he doesn't have to do that and he's even looking at the possibility of moving out of the first to get more assets just like last year. Especially if any of the QB needy teams who have an interest in Simpsons are holding out to see if they could get him at the end of the first round like the Giants did with Dart.

Now if we could only upgrade QB.

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Now if we could only upgrade QB.

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I think all of us need to just accept that it's going to be CJ. If we can build a strong run game, then we can probably get good play out of him....but no matter what, I would count it as a massive surprise if CJ isn't our starter for the foreseeable future

Sadiq is legitimately my favorite prospect of any position of need we have in this draft. The only way we have a shot at him is if we trade up, he's a freak. My gut says we're not going to land him unfortunately and it's more likely that we have a shot at Stowers or Max Klare from Ohio State. Stowers isn't heavy for a TE so his value is more as a pass catcher and not a blocker, but he's kind of a problem when it comes to matching up with most linebackers because of how fast he is and how well he moves. I also don't hate that he could be used as an emergency QB or in a trick play here or there. He's very different from Stover so they'd still have a use for him, especially in short yardage situations. I will say he's not going to enjoy lining up against WAJ or Hunter in practice if he's being asked to block. I think Sadiq is going in the first half of the first round to either the Rams (with Atlanta's pick) or Tampa Bay, but if he's still on the board after that there's a number of teams that would try to move up and get him so the price won't be great.

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Exactly, I'm all for upgrading the o-line with young talent, but the 1st round is a time to do a major upgrade on team talent irregardless of position. Now, if someone like a Kenyon Sadiq drops and we have him at the top of our draft board and think that it will give us a unique mismatch on offense this year, then we make our move and upgrade the offense without hurting it. I would rather take the top TE, or one of the top 2 DTs, or a top 2 LBer, safety, or RB if he fits our team perfectly....than just taking the 7th best OT because it fills a hole we have to fill.

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Sadiq is a freak athlete but has questionable hands. One of the higher drop rates amongst TE's the last decade.

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zooguy96 said:

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Now if we could only upgrade QB.

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I think all of us need to just accept that it's going to be CJ. If we can build a strong run game, then we can probably get good play out of him....but no matter what, I would count it as a massive surprise if CJ isn't our starter for the foreseeable future

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Like prime Walter Payton and Earl Campbell and he can't throw more than 8 passes a game.

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zooguy96 said:

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Now if we could only upgrade QB.

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I think all of us need to just accept that it's going to be CJ. If we can build a strong run game, then we can probably get good play out of him....but no matter what, I would count it as a massive surprise if CJ isn't our starter for the foreseeable future

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Not to mention there is no clear path to upgrade. The chances are extremely high that, at best, you get more of the same. Also a real possibility you get worse. As much risk in "trying" to upgrade as there is in sitting tight with your high ceiling prospect on his rookie contract.

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zooguy96 said:

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Now if we could only upgrade QB.

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I think all of us need to just accept that it's going to be CJ. If we can build a strong run game, then we can probably get good play out of him....but no matter what, I would count it as a massive surprise if CJ isn't our starter for the foreseeable future

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Not to mention there is no clear path to upgrade. The chances are extremely high that, at best, you get more of the same. Also a real possibility you get worse. As much risk in "trying" to upgrade as there is in sitting tight with your high ceiling prospect on his rookie contract.

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Agree - see Daniel Jones and that contract. If Houston wants an experienced QB, it's going to get very expensive very quickly. Otherwise they will draft and start over. Best let CJ try to redeem himself as the devil you know on a team friendly deal than go to market.

kind of sounds like the hope and change strategy

that the Cardinals (Kyler) and Dolphins (Tua) tried

also have to hope that the Chiefs (Mahomes) and Ravens (Lamar) are on a permanent slide

and last year wasn't just a 1-year blip

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zooguy96 said:

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I think all of us need to just accept that it's going to be CJ. If we can build a strong run game, then we can probably get good play out of him....but no matter what, I would count it as a massive surprise if CJ isn't our starter for the foreseeable future

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Maybe CJ due a good year. Still hope.

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IrishAg said:

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zooguy96 said:

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Now if we could only upgrade QB.

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I think all of us need to just accept that it's going to be CJ. If we can build a strong run game, then we can probably get good play out of him....but no matter what, I would count it as a massive surprise if CJ isn't our starter for the foreseeable future

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Maybe CJ due a good year. Still hope.

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We don't even need him to be good. Just don't be historically bad and we are probably ok.

With JSN getting that monster extension I think he's the first player from the 2023 draft to sign a new deal. I've been thinking a WAJ extension was imminent, especially after getting Hunter's deal done, but still nothing. WAJ is going to be in the neighborhood of $45MM/year with just the guarantees needing to be finalized. Anyone else curious if Caserio is hesitant to get that done before knowing what CJ is going to end up costing next year? WAJ is a known quantity at this point, CJ is not, you gotta get that deal done now before it gets more expensive. I am curious if Caserio has been trying to get something done with CJ as well but not at the top level, just a shorter deal perhaps. I would just pick up CJ's 5th year option this offseason and nothing more until he shows he's worth more.

WAJ deal is just a matter of time, what they are going to do with CJ will have no bearing on the WAJ deal, he will be a top of market guy regardless.

On CJ, as others have said, I would pick up his 5 year option and go from there, unless CJ is willing to take a big number deal, with a lower guaranteed dollar deal. My guess is that the Texans will wait on CJ until after next season.

No rush on CJ.

If we were to extend CJ after his last two games. Drugs,

No reason to do anything until after the season is complete.

Nm

Actually it is the right thing to do…I am sure CJ's representation was pushing for a contract that would make one of the highest paid and the Texans chose to hold off.

So does this mean that CJ becomes a free agent at the end of the 2027 season?