dmperch said:

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Anyone have an idea of when this will go to the Senate for a vote and what the likelihood of it passing there is?

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Sen majority leader said his goal is to have the bill on Trump's desk by Memorial day.

Doubt that happens, but that's the goal anyway.

I believe this is the only mention of "silencer" in the bill that was passed but I'm not learned on finding the passed version. The below came from this bill.

I don't see any mention of the NFA at all, but again my search skills may be less than perfect. Not seeing where it was removed from NFA, only tax reduction.

As I understand it, weapons under section 5845(3) are those "any other weapon" greater than 12" but less than 18" in length, etc., etc., etc. Is that not SBRs? If so, looks like SBRs tax stamps just got a whole lot cheaper.

Bill tax reduction section:

SEC. 112030. REDUCTION OF EXCISE TAX ON FIREARMS SILENCERS.

(a) IN GENERAL.Section 5811(a) is amended to read as follows:

''(a) RATE.There shall be levied, collected, and paid on firearms transferred a tax at the rate of

''(1) $5 for each firearm transferred in the case of a weapon classified as any other weapon under section 5845(e),

''(2) $0 for each firearm transferred in the case of a silencer (as defined in section 5845(a)(7)), and

''(3) $200 for any other firearm transferred.''.

(b) EFFECTIVE DATE.The amendment made by this section shall apply to transfers after the date of the enactment of this Act.

On my drive to work this morning I heard on KTRH 740 AM radio that the HR 404 (hearing protection act) was taken out of the "Big Beautiful Bill" that passed and was sent to Senate.... so I thought it was dead for now????

Sheepdog said:

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FPC and GOA both reporting that the HPA is included in the House bill passed last night.

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weird..... i know I specifically heard Jimmy Barrett from the 740 Morning Show state that HR 404 was NOT in the bill that passed the house.

Texaspainter said:

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Sheepdog said:

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FPC and GOA both reporting that the HPA is included in the House bill passed last night.

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weird..... i know I specifically heard Jimmy Barrett from the 740 Morning Show state that HR 404 was NOT in the bill that passed the house.

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HPA is in. SHORT is not.

If somehow HPA language is not in there FPC and GOA will have a riot on their hands.

Suppressor thoughts…

Question, would this allow for individuals to manufacture their own?

I'm guessing demand would skyrocket short term. What would it do to prices long term?

I have heard some speculate firearms with integrated suppression could become a lot more common.

FamousAgg said:

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Suppressor thoughts…

Question, would this allow for individuals to manufacture their own?

I'm guessing demand would skyrocket short term. What would it do to prices long term?

I have heard some speculate firearms with integrated suppression could become a lot more common.

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Thought I read that you would still need to file a 4473, so not sure on what that means for manufacturing your own.

If I had to guess, I bet supply dries up super quick should this be implemented. Don't think the manufacturers could initially keep up with increased demand in the short term. More suppliers enter market and increase competition/drive down prices long term.

I could be totally wrong though

Just like completing an 80% AR lower, I don't see why an individual couldn't DIY one.

I agree I see supply being really tight for a bit after this goes through

Yea I can see supply tightening initially as well as prices spiking short-term until manufacturers can ramp up production or more manufacturers enter the market.

The Sun said:

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I don't think all the amendments are on the site yet. The vote just happened 3-4 hours ago.

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Its in the Manager's amendment that was voted on with the final bill.

HR1 Managers Amendment

Page 39

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10 SEC. 112029. MODIFICATION OF TREATMENT OF SILENC11 ERS. 12 (a) IN GENERAL.Section 5845(a) is amended by 13 striking ''(7) any silencer'' and all that follows through 14 ''; and (8)'' and inserting ''and (7)''. 15 (b) TRANSFER TAX.Section 5811(a) is amended to 16 read as follows: 17 ''(a) RATE.There shall be levied, collected, and paid 18 on firearms transferred a tax at the rate of 19 ''(1) $5 for each firearm transferred in the case 20 of a weapon classified as any other weapon under 21 section 5845(e), (2) $0 for each firearm transferred in the case 2 of a silencer (as defined in section 921 of title 18, 3 United States Code), and 4 ''(3) $200 for any other firearm transferred.''. 5 (c) MAKING TAX.Section 5821(a) is amended to 6 read as follows: 7 ''(a) RATE.There shall be levied, collected, and paid 8 upon the making of a firearm a tax at the rate of 9 ''(1) $0 for each silencer (as defined in section 10 921 of title 18, United States Code) made, and 11 ''(2) $200 for any other firearm made.''. 12 (d) EFFECTIVE DATE.The amendments made by 13 this section shall apply to calendar quarters beginning 14 more than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this 15 Act

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That language strikes silencers from the definition of firearms for the whole chapter, which includes the registration provision.

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5841 - Registration of firearms

(a)Central registryThe Secretary shall maintain a central registry of all firearms in the United States which are not in the possession or under the control of the United States. This registry shall be known as the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record. The registry shall include
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identification of the firearm;
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date of registration; and
(3)
identification and address of person entitled to possession of the firearm.

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Would the Secretary then, by the new definition of 'firearm', have to strike all silencers from the registry? That would seem to be substantially more difficult to undo.

No idea.

Seems that it would be simple to strike the entire registry though.

"from this date, any and all suppresors on the NFA registry are hereby stricken from the registry. The registry for suppressors no longer exists."

But I'm not in government, so not sure how the government hard way to do things would pan out.

So does anyone know how long this will take the Senate to get to the finish line?
President sign it?
When does it take effect?

In other words, when can i go buy a suppressor without all the $#%^&$ paperwork?

TX_COWDOC said:

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Anyone else get this email?

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I too got this email, just saw it but it came in last week.

Texaspainter said:

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So does anyone know how long this will take the Senate to get to the finish line?
President sign it?
When does it take effect?

In other words, when can i go buy a suppressor without all the $#%^&$ paperwork?

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I think I heard on the radio this morning they are expecting it to be finalized by July 4th. The Senate may send it back to the House. They expect the some of the Senate conservatives to want to cut more spending.

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They expect the some of the Senate conservatives to want to cut more spending.

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I hope they slash a whole bunch

I am still waiting on my PTR Vent 1.... I am wondering if I should cancel and get my money back.

Hope to see dozens options on the shelf

If this passes where would be best to take some .22 to get the barrels threaded? I've got a Ruger 10/22 and a Ruger mark IV I'd like to shoot suppressed.

Maybe a 6.5 as well

Go ahead and get it done, can't hurt

shalackin said:

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I am still waiting on my PTR Vent 1.... I am wondering if I should cancel and get my money back.

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If you cancel, you'll have to start over if this gets cut by the mature, genteel senate.

If you cancel, and this actually passes, everything is going to sell out incredibly quickly and it will be many months/years before things catch up.