Northage Development + Petition

15,811 Views | 193 Replies | Last: 1 day ago by PS3D
Brian Alg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Just spoke with Hunter Goodwin. I am going to forget a lot of details. And for sure my paraphrasing is going to mislead from what he intended to say. So if anything I say makes you think "oh, Brian Alg said that Hunter Goodwin said "XYZ" so Hunter Goodwin is bad," please recognize that there is a really good chance I accidently misled you. He was super nice, was open to my questions, etc. even though he's a busy guy (especially today I imagine) and I am just some guy who called him from the internet.

But the big thing that I learned was that there was kind of a two option RFP. One option was to purchase the 1.00 acre in red below. The other was to purchase the whole 1.57 which includes the L shaped section off to the right in blue.



He said that he was told the city strongly favored leaving the 0.57 off to the right as park, open space, etc. The idea was that if it were not left as greenspace and whatnot that people would scream bloody murder and the bid would not be accepted for political reasons. Also, there was an indication that the city strongly favored minimizing the student housing aspect in favor of retail and mixed-use stuff, because if this was seen as just another student residential high rise people would scream bloody murder and the bid would not be accepted for political reasons.

He indicated that had he known the city was willing to bite the bullet and be willing to take a bid that builds on the full 1.57 acres, that's what he'd have put in his bid. And that's the big disconnect between OG's expectations and the outcome. I am sure I am leaving some things out but I wanted to relay what I could.
Brian Alg

Brazos Coalition for Responsible Government and Moderator Restraint
maroon barchetta
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Thank you for getting info and sharing.
Tailgate88
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
https://www.kbtx.com/2025/01/09/second-local-developer-releases-plan-submitted-northgate-development-bid/

Quote:

COLLEGE STATION, Texas (KBTX) - The College Station City Council is scheduled to accept a $13 million bid to purchase and redevelop city-owned property at Northgate, despite recent objections from bidders who say the city mishandled the RFP process and from neighbors who worry the development will change their way of life.
AggiePhil
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Link to the council meeting livestream? One thing I saw said the meeting started at 6:00. COCS website says it started at 4:00.
PS3D
How long do you want to ignore this user?
REComBKR85 said:

That's actually not true. OG's plan was to replace the existing surface parking lot with a greater number of free public parking spaces on the first floor of the parking garage than exist on the surface lot today.

Capstones plan as presented by staff is to charge for parking and have a revenue share agreement with the city.

TxDot and the City of College Station shared their plans for pedestrian cross walks over university drive in a recent council meeting, you might want to look into that as well.
I saw on page 9 of this PDF some sunken boulevard area but that's unrealistic conceptually (lots of $$$, probably won't do much in terms of actual benefits) and would take years to build, if ever. But I don't see anywhere what OG's plan was or how they plan to add a crosswalk without completely rebuilding University or how Capstone's plan doesn't work with the crosswalk idea (as it seems to be a different project).
AggiePhil
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Meeting just started. Top of the page. https://www.cstx.gov/departments___city_hall/pubcomm/channel_19
Captn_Ag05
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
The public meeting on the Northgate part of the agenda is now starting
MsDoubleD81
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Whst did they decide on the property at Corporate and 6?
cypress-ag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
This was decided along time ago they just let people feel like they had a say in it when they never did. Boo
FtnTXAg03
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
cypress-ag said:

This was decided along time ago they just let people feel like they had a say in it when they never did. Boo


I truly believe the attention and the scale of public input has made a dent. Again, this is a mess city staff made. By the end of the night, city council can fix the problem or be party to it. The fact that we're having this discussion tonight rather than this passing without notice is a product of at least some of the council listening and acting. It's a question of was it enough in enough time.
Hornbeck
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
My money is on "be party to it".

Not very often they go against staff.
RafterAg223
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
This is going to pass tonight with maybe Yancy as the only no vote. Pretty clear after listening to the original round of questions. That said, getting all the way to the point of full execution of the development agreement required to close, is not going to be a picnic.
spike427
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I like many of the "precedent" images but I have a hard time seeing how they can cram all of the great ideas into this space.
MsDoubleD81
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
They have 25 people signed up to speak.
spike427
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Bob Yancy with some good questions!
75AG
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
cypress-ag said:

This was decided along time ago they just let people feel like they had a say in it when they never did. Boo

Welcome to politics 101. It's always decided in the back rooms. And public hearings are just for show.
cypress-ag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
MsDoubleD81
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Can't stand the current mayor.
OBannonsPub
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I don't think the mayor likes Yancy so much...
Captn_Ag05
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
MsDoubleD81 said:

Whst did they decide on the property at Corporate and 6?


The approved it. It is a 120 day development phase for the public plaza that is part of the property behind the restaurants that are envisioned. If they can't agree on how that will be designed, either party can walk.
MsDoubleD81
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
He's gonna get mad when people applaud.
FtnTXAg03
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
For those not keeping score at home, it's council member Wright, place 2, who can't be bothered to listen to the citizens and takes more interest in what's going on at the city staff table and how they might be feeling.
FtnTXAg03
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Of note: City planners are scrolling Instagram while citizens and business owners are expressing concern.
MsDoubleD81
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
That was a good point about the petition compared to the votes that got them elected. I know not everyone who signed live here, but still hit home to me.
Captn_Ag05
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I stopped listening for a while to watch the end of the football game. Has anyone spoken in favor?
MsDoubleD81
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Yes, a Chad.
MsDoubleD81
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Mayor had no idea about the petition
tamfal86
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
MsDoubleD81 said:

Mayor had no idea about the petition
The City Manager doesn't like him to hear opposing views.
Tamfal86
UhOhNoAgTag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Yes. He said why please a bunch of old former students. Students need a place to live. His panties were in a wad.
Hornbeck
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
UhOhNoAgTag said:

Yes. He said why please a bunch of old former students. Students need a place to live. His panties were in a wad.


Ummmmmm… your town is mainly populated by current students, and older former students. You might want to listen to them…
FtnTXAg03
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Vote happening now
AgProgrammer
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I'm not following why they are acting like their only option is to sell the lot. They can like...not sell it.
Captn_Ag05
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
It looks like it will be a 4-3 vote either way. Just not sure which way it will go.
FtnTXAg03
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Councilman Mark Smith, Place 1 is for a student housing highrise on Northgate. Votes to approve contract.
UhOhNoAgTag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Can we have a recall election???
 
×
subscribe Verify your student status
See Subscription Benefits
Trial only available to users who have never subscribed or participated in a previous trial.