Northage Development + Petition

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Cyp0111
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I thought that spot would be ideal for a hotel. Would be a great spot for a graduate hotel..
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Has anyone seen the map that councilwoman Mcllhaney kept referring to that showed 17 or 19 Northgate developments?
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Hotel with actually MORE PARKING, not just replacing 100 spaces. Convenient parking for visitors, alumni, tourists and students alike, will help to galvanize both the hotel and the area.
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I wish someone could find it and post
befitter
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When they announced this high rise would/could be 23 stories.......I think everyone in the rooms mouth dropped.
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befitter said:

When they announced this high rise would/could be 23 stories.......I think everyone in the rooms mouth dropped.
This is my biggest thing. I'm not opposed to development of the lot, but not a giant monstrosity like that. If TAMU needs student housing that bad, let them build it on the campus across the street. The space on Northgate is too cramped for what is being proposed.
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I wish they'd consider something like this, obviously on a smaller scale.

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Dr. Horrible said:

befitter said:

When they announced this high rise would/could be 23 stories.......I think everyone in the rooms mouth dropped.
This is my biggest thing. I'm not opposed to development of the lot, but not a giant monstrosity like that. If TAMU needs student housing that bad, let them build it on the campus across the street. The space on Northgate is too cramped for what is being proposed.


But if they sell that space, it will free up some money to buy the former Conn's space at the mall!!!
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FtnTXAg03 said:

For those not keeping score at home, it's council member Wright, place 2, who can't be bothered to listen to the citizens and takes more interest in what's going on at the city staff table and how they might be feeling.


This was very difficult to watch. He seemed disinterested in anyone's opinion. Face buried in his phone most of the time. Couldn't telegraph body language less smug had he tried. I'm embarrassed that he is representing us.
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happyinBCS said:

I wish someone could find it and post


What about an open records request?
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BigD_03 said:

AggieBaseball06 said:

I don't always agree with Yancy but I appreciate what he brings to the council (and this board). He often brings some of the best insights in meetings.


100%


He's the only one that we here see engaging the constituents.
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australopithecus robustus said:

Hotel with actually MORE PARKING, not just replacing 100 spaces. Convenient parking for visitors, alumni, tourists and students alike, will help to galvanize both the hotel and the area.
And extremely noisy. It would be like locating next to a railroad track except the trains keep going until 2 am.
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Justin2010 said:

I wish they'd consider something like this, obviously on a smaller scale.


Exactly what I was hoping for as well. Obviously need to address the parking somehow as well but this is what I envision - a place for the community to come together, families to gather when they come to town for an Aggie event - not another soulless behemoth of a building. There are plenty of other lots in that area if another of those is needed or wanted that are not right smack in the middle of the only historical district we have left.

I'm very pleased to have woken up to good news this morning that I frankly was not expecting. Kudos to the five council members who voted to reject, and especially Mr. Yancy.
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2020 said:

FtnTXAg03 said:

For those not keeping score at home, it's council member Wright, place 2, who can't be bothered to listen to the citizens and takes more interest in what's going on at the city staff table and how they might be feeling.


This was very difficult to watch. He seemed disinterested in anyone's opinion. Face buried in his phone most of the time. Couldn't telegraph body language less smug had he tried. I'm embarrassed that he is representing us.


I wish somebody had caught a picture of when the fourth council member was indicating their intention to vote no and seal the deal, and Place 2 threw his head back in his chair and stared at the ceiling for the longest time. I don't mean to get personal or nasty, but truly, by way of an honest illustration of the scene… I have a seven year old.
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Probably watching his kickback being sucked into the air. He needs to go. Can't stand his arrogance.
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FtnTXAg03 said:

2020 said:

FtnTXAg03 said:

For those not keeping score at home, it's council member Wright, place 2, who can't be bothered to listen to the citizens and takes more interest in what's going on at the city staff table and how they might be feeling.


This was very difficult to watch. He seemed disinterested in anyone's opinion. Face buried in his phone most of the time. Couldn't telegraph body language less smug had he tried. I'm embarrassed that he is representing us.


I wish somebody had caught a picture of when the fourth council member was indicating their intention to vote no and seal the deal, and Place 2 threw his head back in his chair and stared at the ceiling for the longest time. I don't mean to get personal or nasty, but truly, by way of an honest illustration of the scene… I have a seven year old.
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Smith, Wright and Nichols up in 2026.
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I'm excited to see what the yet-to-be-created planning team comes up with as a vision for the area.
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FtnTXAg03 said:

2020 said:

FtnTXAg03 said:

For those not keeping score at home, it's council member Wright, place 2, who can't be bothered to listen to the citizens and takes more interest in what's going on at the city staff table and how they might be feeling.


This was very difficult to watch. He seemed disinterested in anyone's opinion. Face buried in his phone most of the time. Couldn't telegraph body language less smug had he tried. I'm embarrassed that he is representing us.


I wish somebody had caught a picture of when the fourth council member was indicating their intention to vote no and seal the deal, and Place 2 threw his head back in his chair and stared at the ceiling for the longest time. I don't mean to get personal or nasty, but truly, by way of an honest illustration of the scene… I have a seven year old.


It did seem almost personal how strong of a reaction that was. It almost looked uncontrollably reflexive. Makes me wonder if he has any personal ties to anyone at this particular development company.
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OBannonsPub said:

#yancyformayor


Very much this.
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I am thankful for the 3 new members. Would not have happened without them. Harvell, Cunha and Maloney would have been all in.
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Yes, and listening to Wright lecture the crowd of business owners about how the world works and what they should do, rather than listening to his constituents, was cringeworthy. He needs to go.
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What is the professional/job background of the council? Is that info available?
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https://www.cstx.gov/departments___city_hall/council
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Seriously, can we recall him?
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PS3D said:

australopithecus robustus said:

Hotel with actually MORE PARKING, not just replacing 100 spaces. Convenient parking for visitors, alumni, tourists and students alike, will help to galvanize both the hotel and the area.
And extremely noisy. It would be like locating next to a railroad track except the trains keep going until 2 am.



Like the A&M hotel/ conventions center right next to Kyle Field and the tracks? Cmon
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PS3D said:

australopithecus robustus said:

Hotel with actually MORE PARKING, not just replacing 100 spaces. Convenient parking for visitors, alumni, tourists and students alike, will help to galvanize both the hotel and the area.
And extremely noisy. It would be like locating next to a railroad track except the trains keep going until 2 am.
I lived on the corner of Church and Boyett for 13 years. The closest front door to the Dixie Chicken. From a college and post-college bachelor pad, to the home my wife and I brought three children home from the hospital to. From noise to public safety, even that most-proximal of locations was the opposite of the boogeyman some narratives like to make the space out to be. My children who are old enough to remember miss "our home" on Northgate. We only left for more space for a growing family. That's it. It was and remains - beyond the bounds of our walls - a wonderful and decent home, and playground (for all), and one I am proud to have been able to provide for so many years.
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Some on the council would have you believe that area is like Escape From New York back there (showing my age with that movie reference).
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FtnTXAg03 said:

PS3D said:

australopithecus robustus said:

Hotel with actually MORE PARKING, not just replacing 100 spaces. Convenient parking for visitors, alumni, tourists and students alike, will help to galvanize both the hotel and the area.
And extremely noisy. It would be like locating next to a railroad track except the trains keep going until 2 am.
I lived on the corner of Church and Boyett for 13 years.
Very cool. I'm curious--north, south, east, or west corner of the intersection?
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Tailgate88 said:

Justin2010 said:

I wish they'd consider something like this, obviously on a smaller scale.


Exactly what I was hoping for as well. Obviously need to address the parking somehow as well but this is what I envision - a place for the community to come together, families to gather when they come to town for an Aggie event - not another soulless behemoth of a building. There are plenty of other lots in that area if another of those is needed or wanted that are not right smack in the middle of the only historical district we have left.

This encapsulates why the petition as written (it appears to be changed) was dog crud. Before it was edited, it was a rambling mess that talked about how Northgate would be "gone forever" if the parking lot was redeveloped but then it turns around and envisions public plazas for the "community" or some such.

Those ideas are wholly incompatible. Maybe it could be a public plaza and evict most of the bars and nightclubs, making it a more family-friendly area, but that would do just as much, if not more, "damage" to Northgate than what the city proposes.

And "historical district"? There isn't anything "historical" at Northgate that wouldn't require extensive restoration work. Maybe if you closed down Shiner Park and restored the original facade of Northgate Cinema, that could maybe work, but who besides me is even bringing that up?
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2020 said:

FtnTXAg03 said:

For those not keeping score at home, it's council member Wright, place 2, who can't be bothered to listen to the citizens and takes more interest in what's going on at the city staff table and how they might be feeling.


This was very difficult to watch. He seemed disinterested in anyone's opinion. Face buried in his phone most of the time. Couldn't telegraph body language less smug had he tried. I'm embarrassed that he is representing us.

Wright is 100% there to do whatever the City Planner wants regardless of what the people he is supposed to represent want. I, for one, have been very disappointed by him and cannot wait to vote him out.



Personal anecdote. I was at a city council meeting a couple of months back. A person was making her presentation to the council and Wright got up and walked out. I was willing to give the benefit of the doubt. When nature calls, it's best to answer. But then he comes strolling in a few minutes later opening a coke can abd was completely chill. That made it clear how important the citizens are to him. The fact that he didn't listen to people the rest of the meeting and would make assumptions after only a couple of things were said just reinforced my negative opinion of him.
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australopithecus robustus said:

PS3D said:

australopithecus robustus said:

Hotel with actually MORE PARKING, not just replacing 100 spaces. Convenient parking for visitors, alumni, tourists and students alike, will help to galvanize both the hotel and the area.
And extremely noisy. It would be like locating next to a railroad track except the trains keep going until 2 am.



Like the A&M hotel/ conventions center right next to Kyle Field and the tracks? Cmon


FYI, you can barely hear the train from the penthouse
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The apartment caddy-corner to Traditions, across from the parking lot and across from Hornback's/Fredriko's/Dixie Chicken Inc. It was also my home office, the open window from which I first heard and saw Johnny Manziel late one storied night, before I - or any of us - even knew who he was. Kellen Heard stopped early one Spring morning when I was in my robe and slippers hand-watering the lawn I just reseeded to ask this complete stranger in a clearly rehearsed exchange if he would like me to ask his professor "how to make your grass grow". In 2014, a world-travelled reporter I was helping with a story was sitting with me at our picnic table on the lawn staring off at the evening promenade when he turned and said - like it was very important that I understood - "this is the GREATEST front yard in the world." Golly, that was a fun spot.
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That was a great space
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FtnTXAg03 said:

The apartment caddy-corner to Traditions, across from the parking lot and across from Hornback's/Fredriko's/Dixie Chicken Inc. It was also my home office, the open window from which I first heard and saw Johnny Manziel late one storied night, before I - or any of us - even knew who he was. Kellen Heard stopped early one Spring morning when I was in my robe and slippers hand-watering the lawn I just reseeded to ask this complete stranger in a clearly rehearsed exchange if he would like me to ask his professor "how to make your grass grow". In 2014, a world-travelled reporter I was helping with a story was sitting with me at our picnic table on the lawn staring off at the evening promenade when he turned and said - like it was very important that I understood - "this is the GREATEST front yard in the world." Golly, that was a fun spot.
Gotcha. Believe that building is being demolished soon for a...you guessed it...high-rise.
 
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