CS City Council Place 5 - Data Center Update

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MiMi
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This thread is even a hot topic on Nextdoor right now. Why isn't Rusty and KBTX covering this as a leading story? More CS citizens need to know about Thursday's meeting and let the city council members know how they feel.
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MiMi said:

This thread is even a hot topic on Nextdoor right now. Why isn't Rusty and KBTX covering this as a leading story? More CS citizens need to know about Thursday's meeting and let the city council members know how they feel.

KBTX: It is only the news after it happens...
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At 7:51 2020 asked a simple question.

At 7:56 Maroon made a comment.

At 7:58 Yancy responded to Maroon, but for some reason didn't answer 2020's question.

This is what my original post was about. Just cherry-picking which questions get answered.
maroon barchetta
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Show your work.
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Bob Yancy said:

Hornbeck said:

What's the name of this company?


I'm not at liberty to disclose that as we may still be under an NDA. I've asked about its expiration repeatedly, but have yet to receive an answer. In either event, it would have to expire tomorrow when the agenda is posted. We have to talk about it then.

That gave me a small window between the last meeting (when we were explicitly told it was ready for public consumption) and when it gets posted tomorrow to notify you.

I waited until today to be safe. We've been talking about this since the holidays and I have issues with the constraints on transparency imposed on us with the voters, to whom my clear and unambiguous primary fiduciary duty actually rests- which I'll not forget.

Once posted, we have a city policy constraining council communication on posted agenda items (see my signature block disclaimer on this platform). Now, we violate that policy pretty routinely when we go on the radio and are asked about a posted agenda item, and I don't mean just me. But I do try to honor it, even though that policy, on advice of officeholder counsel, may violate the Open Meetings Act itself.

The bottom line is the voters aren't waiting with bated breath for an agenda to get posted so they can go see if a massive development is going to be built next to their home. You entrust us, who you voted into office, to serve as that ambassador and to keep you informed.

As for your question: virtually everything I posted before is publicly discoverable save for "potential data center at Midtown." Once that is known, all else is readily available, with effort- except their name. To know the company name, check the agenda in the morning.

Thanks!

Respectfully

Yancy '95




Why is everything in secret? It's getting exhausting and I'm ready to vote everyone out (except you - unless you vote for this).
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I don't know if this is legit as it was posted on social media. It's hard to believe the city is this dumb yet they prove they are over and over. We need a doge audit to find out who's pockets are getting lined because they're certainly not looking out for the residents
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IrishTex
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Listen how to the Mayor presented this topic on WTAW (8:45): https://wtaw.com/college-station-mayor-john-nichols-on-wtaw-66/

WTAW story: https://wtaw.com/college-station-city-council-to-consider-selling-land-for-a-data-center/
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Hornbeck said:

The "Ready, Fire, Aim" approach has worked so well in the recent past. Let's continue to use that approach. /s

Other examples of this approach:
- Rosemary sewer line
- Northgate tower
- Macy's e-sports arena and monorail station

"You can only negotiate after you enter into an agreement and negotiate in the due diligence phase"… that reminds me of a certain national official telling us that "We have to pass the bill to find out what is in it.", speaking about the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare).

I'm convinced that the folks in the palace on Texas Avenue will only listen when the pitchfork mob compels them to, so sharpen up your pitchforks, Ags!

ETA: I'm getting tired of having to sharpen my pitchfork.


Time to clean house
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SCHTICK00 said:

I don't know if this is legit as it was posted on social media. It's hard to believe the city is this dumb yet they prove they are over and over. We need a doge audit to find out who's pockets are getting lined because they're certainly not looking out for the residents



I can confirm this is 100% legit. I know the lady who posted it.
maroon barchetta
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Which one of you posted that?
IrishTex
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This is from the agenda packet: https://wtaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/CScoun091125DataCenterLandSale.pdf
txgardengirl
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How does this affect neighborhood integrity and transparency for the three neighborhoods, church and retirement home that surround this land?
woodiewood1
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It seems to me that a better place for a hugh data center is either down Hwy 6 on an undevelop pacel of land on the east side or west out by the industrial park,

Neither are in College Station, so the council would not agree with me,

If I was site locating a data center here, I would look out at vacant land near the BTU operation,
EliteElectric
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Better not build an Agshack over there, that ruins neighborhood integrity, but a loud behemoth industrial facility? We really need one of those. 100% banana republic, without the beautiful beaches.
highpriorityag
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The mayoral recall starts now
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maroon barchetta said:

Bob Yancy said:

Diddler_44 said:

There are 50 of them in this thread that you haven't addressed. Pick one.


The irony is so thick I could cut it with a knife. Inside city hall there are many upset I broke the news at all. And to you I'm not being forthcoming enough. I'm not going to scour this thread. If you have a question I'll try to answer it.

Have a blessed Sunday.

Respectfully

Yancy '95


Of course they are upset. Sharing info gives the serfs time to respond.

VOTE THEM OUT.

And it's time to start requiring party affiliation on the ballot for city elections. There are people who are out of their depth cosplaying as City Council representatives.
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dubi said:

Quote:

Cons

The proposed data center would essentially double the power consumption of the city.

It would vastly increase the amount of water consumed daily.


When we have power shortages, will the data center shutdown so houses can have priority for AC and heat?

Also water shortages are front and center now.
  • Define "vastly increase" the amount of water consumed daily? 30% more? 50% more?
  • Where will the city source more water so we don't run out?


I have no idea as to any comparison of facility size on what might come here, but here's the information on the RIOT operation in Rockdale for elect consumption and in Corsicana for water needs,

I have been inside the RIOT 1/4 mile long buildings in Rockdale and the noise is huge, People thought the Amazon Drones were loud...this is in another universe,


"In July 2023, following a records request, the company's new facility in Corsicana was estimated to use at least 1.5 million gallons of water per day, mainly for cooling, highlighting the intense water demands of Riot's operations.

700 MW developed capacity: As of mid-2024, the facility has a developed capacity of 700 MW, though its operational power consumption will fluctuate depending on market conditions and its participation in grid-stabilizing programs. Equivalent to 300,000 homes: In April 2023, a New York Times investigation estimated that the Rockdale facility used as much electricity as the nearest 300,000 homes."




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So is this item the LAST AGENDA ITEM????? Wanting to take a 2:00am vote I see. Completely unprofessional and cowardly.
txgardengirl
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We don't have to go over an hour to find building moratoriums due to lack of water infrastructure -

https://www.conroenews.org/article/conroe-city-council-moves-toward-citywide-development-moratorium-over-water-shortages

This is NOT what we need in College Station
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TAMU1990 said:

So is this item the LAST AGENDA ITEM????? Wanting to take a 2:00am vote I see. Completely unprofessional and cowardly.


Exactly what they're doing. Gotta make sure you've got 4 votes solid against it so the mayor can blow with the breeze as well.

It's insane to me how little KBTX reports on the inner workings of college station City government. The silence is deafening.

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They're working on it. They want to due their due diligence.
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It seems like there's several people who have a background in this and are quite knowledgeable. I'd love to sit down and talk and come up with a good presentation to present to council on this on Thursday. Id like to think I'm a decent public speaker so I'd present all the data.
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Valen said:

It seems like there's several people who have a background in this and are quite knowledgeable. I'd love to sit down and talk and come up with a good presentation to present to council on this on Thursday. Id like to think I'm a decent public speaker so I'd present all the data.


Of course you do.

Your earlier posts made it sound like you were not opposed to this data center idea, so no thanks.
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Are they accepting public input? Or can we comment during hear visitors?
Valen
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You can sign up to speak under the regular agenda item
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Add me to the NO camp as well. Until the law of supply and demand rings untrue, how would an energy/water consumption drain not negatively impact our residents property expenses? Not to mention our water usage is already rationed during most summers. I feel an unintended consequences outcome to be on the horizon should this pass.

Shouldn't the pros list be twice as long as the cons to seem like a good idea? The prevailing responses to this deal thus far make that a rhetorical question. Who benefits from this deal? If it's not the citizens, for which can be shown unequivocally, it's a firm NO. If there is any evidence it would be to the detriment of the citizens, whether it be environmental, financial or otherwise, it's a firm NO. Guess we'll see if the consensus of the people prevails or if this is a foregone conclusion; if it's the latter, then repercussions should be had.
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BigD_03 said:

TAMU1990 said:

So is this item the LAST AGENDA ITEM????? Wanting to take a 2:00am vote I see. Completely unprofessional and cowardly.


Exactly what they're doing. Gotta make sure you've got 4 votes solid against it so the mayor can blow with the breeze as well.

It's insane to me how little KBTX reports on the inner workings of college station City government. The silence is deafening.



Rusty - here's a news story for you. There is a retirement community right next door with elderly people. The city council wants to take a vote in the early morning hours instead of being respectful of these citizens time and ability to stay in chambers to speak with THEIR REPRESENTATIVES on a project that will severely affect their quality of life in the twilight of their lives.
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Do any of the council members live in this zone? When the noise starts affecting other residence and pets health who is responsible? The city or the business? Can a lawsuit be brought against the city for allowing this? I mean they got paid why shouldn't the victims?

The question hasn't been answered about the noise limits or penalties for exceeding these limits.
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City of College Station Noise Ordinance (Chapter 26-8)

An updated ordinance, Ordinance No. 2023-4472, amended Chapter 26, Section 26-8 to define enforceable noise limits:
Residential Daytime (7:00 a.m. 10:00 p.m.)
Single-family homes (measured from property line): Max 63 dB
Multi-unit residences (measured at interior wall): Max 55 dB
Residential Nighttime (10:01 p.m. 6:59 a.m.)
Single-family homes (from property line): Max 56 dB
Multi-unit residences (interior wall): Max 50 dB

A violation is deemed a nuisance, enforceable up to 5,000 feet beyond city limits, and is punishable by fines ranging from $25 to $500 (or up to $2,000 for fire safety, zoning, or sanitation-related offenses), with each day as a separate offense

Just did a quick Chat GPT punch in. Hope this helps.
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So I also did a quick gpt look up and it says these things normally exceed normal hearing levels ranging from 85-96 decibels - I remember being at an Aggie football game and we were trying to set the Guinness book of world records record at 110. So I don't know about you but I don't want to hear a motorcycle all day. And those fines are peanuts to a company like this? So what other punitive damages are possible?

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The current noise ordinance may not also hold water. They can create different zones for noise ordinance too.

For example Northgate has a different ordinance. Download it, it's not that long.
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Koko Chingo said:

The current noise ordinance may not also hold water. They can create different zones for noise ordinance too.

For example Northgate has a different ordinance. Download it, it's not that long.

I hear you but 24 hours a day - there are neighborhoods, schools, churches, businesses, retirement centers etc.
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The fact that you are concerned about being chewed out by other members of council over informing the public of something that we should know about should concern you, greatly.

Concerns us even more.
 
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