CSISD Board Elections

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91_Aggie said:

Creekisrising said:

This is a good way to look at it.

The two for sure are McAdams and Field. Both seem to have the unwavering support of leaders in the Democratic Party. If the opponent to Field really dropped out that is an automatic move in board direction to the left with Benn leaving.
I have no idea on Martindale but he seems to be aligned with the two I have mentioned in this post already.

If those three all win I am thinking it is as split of a board as we have seen in a long time politically speaking.




This election for school board is not about Democrat vs Republican... dont bring that in here.


Don't be silly. Like a Beto bumper sticker, democrat party affiliation tells you all you need to know about how the person will lead. It's a nonstarter.
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ElephantRider said:

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NativeBCS said:

Some...interesting...takes on this thread spoken as fact.

Martindale has no desire to take out the current super, nor could he has one of seven board members even if elected. His kids are now out of high school and in college, and he said he wants to give back to the district that did so much for him and his family.

He retired on his own accord to spend more time with his kids before they were graduated/playing college sports that he wanted to go watch. If there was something nefarious it's not been released to my knowledge but by all means bring it forth if you have it.

I know far more teachers who like Martindale than the current super. Harkrider has done some really good things, but he's not someone known to listen to his teachers or seem like he cares how his decisions affect their day to day in the classroom. That has not gone over well with current teachers.

I encourage anyone reading this thread to talk to teachers you know directly to see what they think about the Martindale/Horak race. You might be surprised by how strongly they feel.






The counter to this would be I know a dozen teachers and admin that would overwhelmingly disagree with your post. It's interesting to see Martindale signs predominantly (possibly exclusively) in Cougar family yards. It's not an accident.

I see plenty in my neighborhood and we're zoned to Consol

I see plenty Horak signs in my neighborhood and we're zoned to Consol.
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coconuthead said:

Candidate questionnaires can be viewed by clicking each person's name here: Election Information

Is this working for anyone else? When I click on a candidate's name, I am sent back to the original page.
Bob is your uncle
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Most of this thread has been on Martindale vs Horak. What about McAdams vs Hadnot?
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jac4 said:

91_Aggie said:

Creekisrising said:

This is a good way to look at it.

The two for sure are McAdams and Field. Both seem to have the unwavering support of leaders in the Democratic Party. If the opponent to Field really dropped out that is an automatic move in board direction to the left with Benn leaving.
I have no idea on Martindale but he seems to be aligned with the two I have mentioned in this post already.

If those three all win I am thinking it is as split of a board as we have seen in a long time politically speaking.




This election for school board is not about Democrat vs Republican... dont bring that in here.


Regardless of party affiliation, if a candidate advocated for masks in schools in 2022 it is my opinion that he or she should never hold public office. That is as good of a bell weather issue as you are going to have in local politics.

I agree with this 100%!!
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Bob is your uncle said:

Most of this thread has been on Martindale vs Horak. What about McAdams vs Hadnot?


Because Martindale had authority to spend up to $50k per expenditure without board approval. Horak, McAdams, and Hadnot do not.
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To my knowledge, no CSISD leader has ever set foot in the BCS Realtors Association meeting and asked the members to stop promoting one HS over another, but that would have been a good start to definitively proving he was not favoring one HS. From the opening of CSHS, it seemed to me as a CSISD taxpayer without kids in the district that the CSISD leadership cared less about Consolidated than about CSHS. I've been inside both Consolidated and CSHS a few times over the last decade for various events and could see the the deterioration of the maroon school. Maintenance was being deferred that was being handled at the new HS. That philosophy starts at the top. It took a bond issue to fix a good bit of the deferred maintenance at Consolidated. Mr. Martindale took the job as the superintendent of a two HS district and couldn't make it obvious that he fully supported both HS and the JH's that fed them students. If had wanted to be a Dad of students at CSHS he could have remained the principal at CSHS.

CSISD seems to be able to create enough drama without adding in a retired superintendent who comes with a reputation of favoring one school.
NativeBCS
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The superintendent was supposed to walk into the realtors association and tell them what to say? lol

Martindale was an elementary school principal when CSHS was designed and built. So he can't be blamed for how nice it is.

He was then hired to come be the principal there. So he can't be blamed for caring about the school he helped open.

Then he became superintendent and twice tried to pass bonds that included improvements to consol. He failed both times.

The current super and board got that bond passed on the third try (which people on here were mad about it) which is why consol is getting the repairs it's getting now.

Love the guy or hate him, I don't care. But at least do a better job of making up reasons you don't like him.
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Perfectly said.

I don't think that I'm even going to vote for Martindale, but the conspiracy theories about him making official and/or financial decisions about one school over the other because of bias are just silly.
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Quote:

I've been inside both Consolidated and CSHS a few times over the last decade for various events and could see the the deterioration of the maroon school. Maintenance was being deferred that was being handled at the new HS. That philosophy starts at the top. It took a bond issue to fix a good bit of the deferred maintenance at Consolidated. M

Not true.
There was no general maintenance that was deferred over one school for the other.

If there were: List them. Specifically.

The reason that the bonds were introduced was because a lot of the issues at Consol were too big for a minor repair.

As NativeBCS said, there was a lot of opposition from people that post on this board and the signs to vote yes on the bonds were in every neighborhood with kids in schools. Not just "maroon" neighborhoods.

You just seem bent on this "maroon vs purple" non-athletic rivalry that just doesn't exist.
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When Martindale was Super, wasn't more of his leadership team Purple?
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Stupe said:

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I've been inside both Consolidated and CSHS a few times over the last decade for various events and could see the the deterioration of the maroon school. Maintenance was being deferred that was being handled at the new HS. That philosophy starts at the top. It took a bond issue to fix a good bit of the deferred maintenance at Consolidated. M

Not true.
There was no general maintenance that was deferred over one school for the other.

If there were: List them. Specifically.

The reason that the bonds were introduced was because a lot of the issues at Consol were too big for a minor repair.

As NativeBCS said, there was a lot of opposition from people that post on this board and the signs to vote yes on the bonds were in every neighborhood with kids in schools. Not just "maroon" neighborhoods.

You just seem bent on this "maroon vs purple" non-athletic rivalry that just doesn't exist.



Being emphatic doesn't make your argument true. Consol was absolutely neglected while unnecessary projects, like an indoor batting cage, were done at a relatively new campus. Immediately after being forced out he posted a pic in all purple next to a purple sports car on Facebook saying he bleeds purple. It was total affirmation to what we all suspected.
NativeBCS
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Your unwillingness (or lack of enough knowledge) to tell the truth is why you can't be taken seriously here. He was not forced out. He retired. He was not asked to leave. He chose to leave. Anything else is just flat wrong.

Again, like the guy or hate him, I don't care. But for the love of all things holy stop making crap up that fits your narrative.
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I believe I saw Clark Ealy a couple of times wearing Consol gear as the Superitendant

His daughter played VB at Consol during her time at that school

Did he do everything against CSHS during his tenure to help Consol?

Very doubtful

But yet people are complaining about a DAD who actually was Principal at one of the two schools before being Super AND having kids go to that school

He was the Principal at my kids elementary school long ago...we held him in high esteem then

I just dont understand the angst people have over the two separate schools issue
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He wasn't forced out, he quit. I know a board member at that time that was floored when they got the call. Personal friend - I don't know what else to say.
NativeBCS
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Facts. The board had no idea. A few had even discussed nominating him for super of the year in the region. Even his opponent in this election will tell you this as he did me one time.

Again; like the guy or not. But stop making stuff up to fit your narrative.
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NativeBCS said:

Facts. The board had no idea. A few had even discussed nominating him for super of the year in the region. Even his opponent in this election will tell you this as he did me one time.

Again; like the guy or not. But stop making stuff up to fit your narrative.

Interesting that you bring up his opponent to verify this.

You seem to know Martidale very well.

Suppose he is genuinely interested in selfless service to the District and has no hidden agenda, as you've previously stated in a past post. Why did he choose to run against Horak? Place 3 had no incumbent, and he could have also run against McAdams, as it appears they didn't see eye-to-eye when he was Super. Yet Martindale chose to run against Horak.
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I don't actually know Martindale. I have been paying very close attention to these races (and our school district in general) over the last couple of years which has been incredibly enlightening. As to why he chose to run against Horak, I assume it was because that was the only spot left with a single candidate. Per the district election page, Horak, Hadnot, McAdams, Fields, and Madsen all filed to run on July 21st (the first day you could officially file). Martindale didn't file until August 4th, and by that time every other spot had two people. But that is just conjuncture on my part, you'd have to ask him to know for sure.
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Bob is your uncle said:

Most of this thread has been on Martindale vs Horak. What about McAdams vs Hadnot?


I know Mr. Hadnot personally and I will be voting for this gentleman and everything that he will bring to the table. Mr. Hadnot is a stand up person and has many years of educational experience to back the position.
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SCHTICK00 said:

Stupe said:

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I've been inside both Consolidated and CSHS a few times over the last decade for various events and could see the the deterioration of the maroon school. Maintenance was being deferred that was being handled at the new HS. That philosophy starts at the top. It took a bond issue to fix a good bit of the deferred maintenance at Consolidated. M

Not true.
There was no general maintenance that was deferred over one school for the other.

If there were: List them. Specifically.

The reason that the bonds were introduced was because a lot of the issues at Consol were too big for a minor repair.

As NativeBCS said, there was a lot of opposition from people that post on this board and the signs to vote yes on the bonds were in every neighborhood with kids in schools. Not just "maroon" neighborhoods.

You just seem bent on this "maroon vs purple" non-athletic rivalry that just doesn't exist.



Being emphatic doesn't make your argument true. Consol was absolutely neglected while unnecessary projects, like an indoor batting cage, were done at a relatively new campus. Immediately after being forced out he posted a pic in all purple next to a purple sports car on Facebook saying he bleeds purple. It was total affirmation to what we all suspected.

Being emphatic doesn't make your argument true either. This is bordering on slander. Are you implying that Martindale somehow plucked maintenance funds from one school to fund a batting cage at another? I'm no expert in school funding but I assume these schools each had their budgets long established and I seriously doubt anyone has the ability to unilaterally reach across the district and withdraw funds from some other school's budget for use in their own school, for any purpose.

By the way if you're talking about that sweet purple McClaren that is around sometimes, LOTS of people take pictures with that thing. This is a really odd thing to criticize someone for. What dude doesn't like a cool sports car?

As others have said, you clearly have an ax to grind with Martindale. If you want to criticize him please use facts and discuss his policy positions you disagree with, rather than assuming his intentions.


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No axe to grind at all. If he left on his own fruition then I apologize for suggesting it was otherwise. As far as the picture right after, those are the optics he chose to put out publicly knowing full well there was significant frustration in the belief CSHS got preferential treatment during his tenure. It was unwise at best and poking the eye of what are now his future voters.
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SCHTICK00 said:

No axe to grind at all. If he left on his own fruition then I apologize for suggesting it was otherwise. As far as the picture right after, those are the optics he chose to put out publicly knowing full well there was significant frustration in the belief CSHS got preferential treatment during his tenure. It was unwise at best and poking the eye of what are now his future voters.

....or he had no idea at the time that he would be running for a public office in the future, was not considering the fact that it was "bad optics" for a future race that was not even on his radar at the time, saw a really cool purple car and thought "Hey I want to get a picture with that!"

The fact is, I have no idea what he was thinking and neither do you. So let's not either of us jump to any conclusions, and instead hear what everyone has to say at the candidate's forum and make an informed decision on who we want to vote for then.
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SCHTICK00 said:

No axe to grind at all. If he left on his own fruition then I apologize for suggesting it was otherwise. As far as the picture right after, those are the optics he chose to put out publicly knowing full well there was significant frustration in the belief CSHS got preferential treatment during his tenure. It was unwise at best and poking the eye of what are now his future voters.

Your statement is such bs about "knowing full well". That is your OPINION, not fact. I know him to be very open and concerned for all. My OPINION, not fact
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hoodlum98 said:

Bob is your uncle said:

Most of this thread has been on Martindale vs Horak. What about McAdams vs Hadnot?


I know Mr. Hadnot personally and I will be voting for this gentleman and everything that he will bring to the table. Mr. Hadnot is a stand up person and has many years of educational experience to back the position.
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From FB for info :

Was Martindale being transparent with
the taxpayers when he cost the district over $484,000 for not alerting the district's insurance company about a lawsuit against the district by a former employee? - that would have been 100% covered under insurance if he had done his job correctly. Zero dollars of district money would have been spent on the settlement and attorneys' fees.

Was Martindale being transparent with the taxpayers when one of his employees wired $3.2 million to an overseas fraudulent account in June 2020 - told him about his mistake the same day - and Martindale did nothing about it until it was too late to recoup all lost costs? This was an issue the current administration had to take to court to resolve - and ultimately cost the district $300,000.

open records requests inbound

this is crazy
NativeBCS
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If true, I'll be very curious how his bosses (which included his opponent) responded too. I love some collective accountability.
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Word is that the current board was unaware of any of this until after he left the district.
KaneIsAble
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wow.
TAMU1990
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Snapshot from the Facebook board
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As someone who didn't have kids in the district until last year and wasn't really aware of what was going on before then…Martindale seems sketchy as ****
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Martindale is the one that got crossed ways with Fedora?
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Yes, that's correct. Ultimately fired him although Fedora technically "resigned".
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Curious on everyone's thoughts on last night's forum

Some candidates looked prepared and in tune
Some did not

There's a great big thought of we need to get more money from the state - I'm not sure public Ed is the legislature priority these days, sadly we are just asking for our own tax funds to be spent here
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letterman72 said:

Word is that the current board was unaware of any of this until after he left the district.

This wound up getting walked back deep in the comments section of that Facebook group. First it was 'board was not aware of anything', then it was 'board was not aware of some of the things', now it's 'I can't discuss this in a public forum'..... which seems super sketchy to me. It seems like when the board member who posts on that forum is asked for specifics, he backs down or can't provide. So we are basically left with half accusations.
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