My '17 Silverado broke down the other day and is looking to have the dreaded lifter issues common to that 5.3L v8 Engine. So now I am looking like I will need to find a new ride and I am not really excited at that prospect.

I want reliability and low hassle. But if I drain our car savings account on a used truck - my wife is gonna make sure I never hear the end of it. I'm willing to bear that burden if it's worth it - but figured I'd get the Texags Automotive Brain Trust's thoughts on which is better....

The 2024 Tundra? Gets pretty decent MPG and seems to have worked out most of the issues with the new generation Tundras that you hear/see about the '22 and '23 models. They are also quite expensive which is leading me towards also considering the second gen Tundras with the v8


The 2021 Tundra has the 5.7L v8 that is pretty bulletproof and is a very proven/reliable truck but 13/17 MPG. I've also missed the boat on securing "new" so means I will have to try and find a decent used one with low miles.

Given this scenario - do you think it's wise to jump into the 2021? Am I in the right frame of mind considering avoiding the 2024? My ultimate goal is reliability and low hassle - I want this truck to last as long as possible.

The tech on the previous gen is so outdated. If that doesn't bother you then I'd go previous gen. However I'm a nerd and like all the newest stuff like wireless CarPlay. Especially if everything is under warranty for quite a while.

The new Tundras are still having main bearing failures in 23s and 24s that they said was 2022 models only. I'd steer clear of the new ones until they've remedied that completely.

'21!!!

My 2014 has been 100% perfect through 180,000 miles.

I'm just not a fan of the new ones. I had one as a rental and drove it and didn't like as much as my old one.

A buddy of mine had a 2021 and recently traded in for a newer generation platinum with the hybrid set up he said it has a lot of power, but the gas mileage is basically the same as the old. Even with the hybrid.

I have a 2019 trd pro and it has had no issues of any kind whatsoever. I also have a 21 4 runner with no issues of any kind.

I posted some details in this thread that may interest you:

https://texags.com/forums/46/topics/3441146/replies/66873833#66873833

Thanks everyone for the input this far.

One follow up question on the '21 - how many miles should I be targeting? Under 15K? Under 40K?

I've contemplated the Titan as well. But I know they decided to stop making them after 2023 I think - will that affect anything going forward?

Pretty sure they're making 2024s and then done. This would be my choice probably.

A 2021 Tundra is gonna be hard to find with under 30-40k miles I think but I wouldn't hesitate if you found a good clean one. They are really expensive for a used truck but it's for a good reason.

Titan is a good option. Also would go for the 2021 Tundra, the new turbo V6 has apparently been chewing up main bearings.

I ended up getting a '24 GM with the 3.0 Diesel. I too have had the lifter issue with the GM motor (I was able to fix it enough to trade it, btw, the thread is on here somewhere).

2014-early 2020 (pre covid)
No Titan

A lot of user issues or known Toyota fail points in that list but I'm sure your Ram was reliable. Ram's are synonymous with reliability.

texag06ish said:

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A lot of user issues or known Toyota fail points in that list but I'm sure your Ram was reliable. Ram's are synonymous with reliability.

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I had a Tundra

I don't think so. They've made Titans for a long time and there are laws requiring auto makers to continue making replacement parts for several years after they stop producing a given model. I have two boys about to start driving and I'm looking at both used Titans and Frontiers as a possible first vehicle for them. I'm leaning toward the Titans because the warranty is so much better and for just a few grand extra compared to the Frontiers.

I think I may have sold you my stock 1794 wheels.

You lived inside the loop at the time.

I have a 2023 tundra with 34k miles. It runs well but I wouldn't exactly say it gets great gas mileage (16-18 mpg).

2.7 F150. 3 in my family all with over 100k and none in the shop ever.

How many miles do you drive a year ?


What kind of mpg does your chevy get ?

JP76 said:

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How many miles do you drive a year ?


What kind of mpg does your chevy get ?

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Silverado averages 14.5MPG between city and highway.

As far as number of miles? Tough to say given I drive to my clients - so 12,500ish?

TSJ said:

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I have a 2023 tundra with 34k miles. It runs well but I wouldn't exactly say it gets great gas mileage (16-18 mpg).

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My 23 averages about the same.

Heck my 2014 averages 16.

I've had multiple Tundras since they came out in 2000. In 2022 I traded in a 2016 TRD Pro with 126,000 miles for a 2022 Capstone because dealers kept offering me an insane amount for trade in. Before the 2016 TRD Pro I had a 2012 Limited.

Comparing the previous generation Tundras to the current. Never had any issues with the last generation (which would be the 2021 your considering) but 126,000 miles was the highest mileage I got to. Even though same V8 engine the TRD Pro had more power to me due to the factory dual exhaust and the gear ratio. Had a great sound. As someone else mentioned, not much tech in the last gen Tundra. V8 was noisy also. But really liked the 2016 TRD Pro. Had a hard time getting rid of it.

With that said, I really like my 2022 Capstone. I have 29,000 miles and no issues except a rattle from something coming loose with the moonroof. They fixed. Didn't impact operation just made a noise.

The hybrid is smooth and powerful. It's not a plugin hybrid. The motors are between the engine and transmission and are for torque and prevent any turbo lag. Looked at some road test and 2022 was about a second faster in quarter mile than the V8. Can't predict long term reliability but Toyota doesn't put out a product they haven't tested thoroughly. If I remember the hybrid power train has a 10 year 100,000 mile warranty. I don't usually keep trucks past 100,000 so I'm good.

The tech and features of the new generation Tundra is awesome. No more little screen and lots more features. Interior quality is much better. Last generation had a lot of plastic even compared to the first generation Tundras I had. Plus I like the look of my 2022. I know some hate the new Tundra front end but I like the looks of the truck.

So, can't say anything bad about either. I really like my 2022. I'd say you'd have to check out and test drive the two models and see what you like better. As someone else said, might be hard to find low mileage 2021. Tundras can put a lot of miles on but if you do recommended maintenance at higher mileage it's not cheap.

Hope that helps.

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JP76 said:

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How many miles do you drive a year ?


What kind of mpg does your chevy get ?

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Silverado averages 14.5MPG between city and highway.

As far as number of miles? Tough to say given I drive to my clients - so 12,500ish?

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I'm averaging ~20 mpg on my 2023 tundra but it will consistently hit 23 on the highway with the cruise set at 75. City only has been ~17-18 mpg


You don't drive that many miles so i say go with a new one over an older one. The key to turbo motors is clean oil. Run good synthetic oil and even change it more often than the 10k factory recommendation if you are worried. Keep in mind toyota has been making turbo motors for over 30 years so they know a thing or 2 about keeping them reliable.