SBDavis87 said:

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Nibblerweather said:

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I honestly have zero line of sight as to what goes on behind the scenes. A lot of fair criticisms about some of our culture and some of our traditions. But I don't see the link between not booing and losing. A lot of teams boo, have female cheerleaders and lose just fine.

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Allow me to demonstrate the link.

When you are watching the Donghorns beat your Aggies and whomever is deciding how a play at the goal line which is the same one that didn't work previously (ever) should be chosen/executed - and this idjit makes the absolutely brain-dead decision to pull a guard leaving a direct path for Donghorn players who are the strength of their program this year, to the Aggie backfield and also ensures that there is no possible way a yard can be obtained by having the quarterback go under center yet hands the ball to a small halfback five yards deep in the backfield (negating the under center advantage) then you would as a Donghorn if the role was reversed BOO quite a lot showing your displeasure and hopefully the embarrassment would lead to correction by the Hawthorne Effect next time. If many share this view and Boo loudly, the coaching staff usually realizes they screwed up and need to fix this because there is immediate verbal communication that the fan base is angry.

However, as an Aggie you cannot boo, and have to keep your mouth shut and hope that perhaps someone would post something on social media or texags that would somehow reach the staff personnel responsible and the correction would happen through osmosis and/or diffusion. This is absolute fantasy and will never correct the issue so this is why there is a link between immediate and proper communication that does not reward bad behavior, and the probability of winning the game so in essence - winning.

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SBDavis87 said:

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Nibblerweather said:

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I honestly have zero line of sight as to what goes on behind the scenes. A lot of fair criticisms about some of our culture and some of our traditions. But I don't see the link between not booing and losing. A lot of teams boo, have female cheerleaders and lose just fine.

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Allow me to demonstrate the link.

When you are watching the Donghorns beat your Aggies and whomever is deciding how a play at the goal line which is the same one that didn't work previously (ever) should be chosen/executed - and this idjit makes the absolutely brain-dead decision to pull a guard leaving a direct path for Donghorn players who are the strength of their program this year, to the Aggie backfield and also ensures that there is no possible way a yard can be obtained by having the quarterback go under center yet hands the ball to a small halfback five yards deep in the backfield (negating the under center advantage) then you would as a Donghorn if the role was reversed BOO quite a lot showing your displeasure and hopefully the embarrassment would lead to correction by the Hawthorne Effect next time. If many share this view and Boo loudly, the coaching staff usually realizes they screwed up and need to fix this because there is immediate verbal communication that the fan base is angry.

However, as an Aggie you cannot boo, and have to keep your mouth shut and hope that perhaps someone would post something on social media or texags that would somehow reach the staff personnel responsible and the correction would happen through osmosis and/or diffusion. This is absolute fantasy and will never correct the issue so this is why there is a link between immediate and proper communication that does not reward bad behavior, and the probability of winning the game so in essence - winning.

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Iraq2xVeteran said:

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Since joining the Big 12 in 1996, we have lost 4+ games in 26 of 29 years. The only 3 exceptions were when we finished 11-3 (7-1 Big 12) and won the Big 12 in 1998, 11-2 (6-2 SEC) in 2012 and 9-1 (8-1 SEC) in 2020. We finished with a 9-2 (6-2 Big 12) regular season record to win the Big 12 South Division in 1997 before getting trounced 54-15 by eventual national champion Nebraska in the Big 12 Championship Game and losing 29-23 to UCLA in the Cotton Bowl to finish 9-4. We finished with 9-3 regular season records in 2006 and 2010 but both seasons ended with 17+ point bowl losses to drop us to 9-4. We finished with 8-4 regular season records in 2013 and 2018 and both seasons ended with bowl wins to finish 9-4.

We have consistently lost 4+ games and finished in the middle of the Big 12 or SEC with a few good or great seasons and a few losing seasons mixed in. We have won 9+ games just 8 times in the last 29 years: 1997, 1998, 2006, 2010, 2012, 2013, 2018, and 2020. During that span, we had 5 losing seasons in 2003, 2005, 2008, 2009 and 2022.

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Class of 65 said:

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Spoken like a true sip

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The Banned said:

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Frok said:

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It's definitely the coaching, we hire one bad one after another

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Coaching is bad for sure… but why do we hire only bad ones and non good ones?

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Nelson Wilbury said:

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The Banned said:

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Frok said:

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It's definitely the coaching, we hire one bad one after another

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Coaching is bad for sure… but why do we hire only bad ones and non good ones?

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The last football coach that left without being fired was in 1958. Think about it - A&M keeps firing coaches, then complains that we never hire any good coaches.

Give existing coaches an opportunity to show their competencies, deficiencies, and improve. Coaches aren't different from players - good ones learn and develop when exposed to different situations.

Would you want to take a job where people had only been fired for the last 66 years?

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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SBDavis87 said:

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Nibblerweather said:

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I honestly have zero line of sight as to what goes on behind the scenes. A lot of fair criticisms about some of our culture and some of our traditions. But I don't see the link between not booing and losing. A lot of teams boo, have female cheerleaders and lose just fine.

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Allow me to demonstrate the link.

When you are watching the Donghorns beat your Aggies and whomever is deciding how a play at the goal line which is the same one that didn't work previously (ever) should be chosen/executed - and this idjit makes the absolutely brain-dead decision to pull a guard leaving a direct path for Donghorn players who are the strength of their program this year, to the Aggie backfield and also ensures that there is no possible way a yard can be obtained by having the quarterback go under center yet hands the ball to a small halfback five yards deep in the backfield (negating the under center advantage) then you would as a Donghorn if the role was reversed BOO quite a lot showing your displeasure and hopefully the embarrassment would lead to correction by the Hawthorne Effect next time. If many share this view and Boo loudly, the coaching staff usually realizes they screwed up and need to fix this because there is immediate verbal communication that the fan base is angry.

However, as an Aggie you cannot boo, and have to keep your mouth shut and hope that perhaps someone would post something on social media or texags that would somehow reach the staff personnel responsible and the correction would happen through osmosis and/or diffusion. This is absolute fantasy and will never correct the issue so this is why there is a link between immediate and proper communication that does not reward bad behavior, and the probability of winning the game so in essence - winning.

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This.

Well stated.

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Nelson Wilbury said:

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How long is a good question. Have you ever had employees reporting to you that were underperforming? In my mind, they need to have an opportunity to learn and change at least once. If they keep making the same mistakes then it's time to go.

And to the earlier question of how A&M's former coaches did after being fired - my answer would be that none of them needed to work.

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Yep. The school is just collectively ****ing losers at everything. Will never win anything of meaning ever. Same old crap year after year after year.

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AgFan1974 said:

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PanzerAggie06 said:

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SBDavis87 said:

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Nibblerweather said:

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I honestly have zero line of sight as to what goes on behind the scenes. A lot of fair criticisms about some of our culture and some of our traditions. But I don't see the link between not booing and losing. A lot of teams boo, have female cheerleaders and lose just fine.

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Allow me to demonstrate the link.

When you are watching the Donghorns beat your Aggies and whomever is deciding how a play at the goal line which is the same one that didn't work previously (ever) should be chosen/executed - and this idjit makes the absolutely brain-dead decision to pull a guard leaving a direct path for Donghorn players who are the strength of their program this year, to the Aggie backfield and also ensures that there is no possible way a yard can be obtained by having the quarterback go under center yet hands the ball to a small halfback five yards deep in the backfield (negating the under center advantage) then you would as a Donghorn if the role was reversed BOO quite a lot showing your displeasure and hopefully the embarrassment would lead to correction by the Hawthorne Effect next time. If many share this view and Boo loudly, the coaching staff usually realizes they screwed up and need to fix this because there is immediate verbal communication that the fan base is angry.

However, as an Aggie you cannot boo, and have to keep your mouth shut and hope that perhaps someone would post something on social media or texags that would somehow reach the staff personnel responsible and the correction would happen through osmosis and/or diffusion. This is absolute fantasy and will never correct the issue so this is why there is a link between immediate and proper communication that does not reward bad behavior, and the probability of winning the game so in essence - winning.

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This.

Well stated.

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No, it is'nt... You think professional coaches who are good enough to coach at the D1 level need their fanbase to notify them when something needs adjusting? This is SILLY!

If you hiss, boo, chant "you suck", or whatever action your fanbase decides to use a) they (coaches) get the point, b) the coaches do not make decisions based on the decible level of said fan angst. C-MON man...

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