He looked pretty good against us last year

Correct Arch Manning isn't young; he turned 21 last April. He should be a senior but he must have been held back from starting grade school on time plus a redshirt year and that is how you get a 21 year old incoming sophomore.

That said, he has incredible athletic talent but he is lacking the mental part of the game. He just doesn't have 'it'.

I think his family name had mostly to do with it. His HS league clearly was not very good. He hasn't played this much meaningful snaps against actual competition. There's some good moments in there for him but far too inconsistent.

his game reminds me of former A&M QB Haynes King.
He runs the ball effectively but isn't the best at throwing the ball.
Horns need to adjust their playbook to match his strengths.

JohnClark929 said:

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Correct Arch Manning isn't young; he turned 21 last April. He should be a senior but he must have been held back from starting grade school on time plus a redshirt year and that is how you get a 21 year old incoming sophomore.

That said, he has incredible athletic talent but he is lacking the mental part of the game. He just doesn't have 'it'.

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His age is irrelevant. What is relevant, is that this is his third year in the horn program and the horns basically ran off Ewers to give him the starting job. Considering this, he is pretty far behind where he should be in terms of development. He did play his best game of the year this weekend so maybe the stars align and he has success but it's easy to tell he is never going to live up to the hype bubble the media created. That was probably impossible. I predict he ends up having a career just like Sims the last Horn prodigal son.

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JohnClark929 said:

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Correct Arch Manning isn't young; he turned 21 last April. He should be a senior but he must have been held back from starting grade school on time plus a redshirt year and that is how you get a 21 year old incoming sophomore.

That said, he has incredible athletic talent but he is lacking the mental part of the game. He just doesn't have 'it'.

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His age is irrelevant. What is relevant, is that this is his third year in the horn program and the horns basically ran off Ewers to give him the starting job. Considering this, he is pretty far behind where he should be in terms of development. He did play his best game of the year this weekend so maybe the stars align and he has success but it's easy to tell he is never going to live up to the hype bubble the media created. That was probably impossible. I predict he ends up having a career just like Sims the last Horn prodigal son.

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Age isn't irrelevant as you say but agree with all your other points.

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He's still really young. Maybe he just isn't ready yet. Top that off with the unreal hype and expectations, he'd have had to be the second coming of JFF 2012 to live up to all of that. Don't get me wrong, I am glad he's not as advertised!

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He's in his 3rd season with sip. Let's not act like he's a fish or even a redshirt fish.

Saw clip of his competition in high school. JV teams at best.

JohnClark929 said:

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JohnClark929 said:

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Correct Arch Manning isn't young; he turned 21 last April. He should be a senior but he must have been held back from starting grade school on time plus a redshirt year and that is how you get a 21 year old incoming sophomore.

That said, he has incredible athletic talent but he is lacking the mental part of the game. He just doesn't have 'it'.

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His age is irrelevant. What is relevant, is that this is his third year in the horn program and the horns basically ran off Ewers to give him the starting job. Considering this, he is pretty far behind where he should be in terms of development. He did play his best game of the year this weekend so maybe the stars align and he has success but it's easy to tell he is never going to live up to the hype bubble the media created. That was probably impossible. I predict he ends up having a career just like Sims the last Horn prodigal son.

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Age isn't irrelevant as you say but agree with all your other points.

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The guy is in his third year in college, when was the last time someone mentioned "but he was held back a year"?? those bragging rights go away in middle school.

Other than grandpa Archie, the Mannings have very little to show for their time in college; BUT, in the NFL, they've proven they can win (except for grandpa Archie).

BUT, if t.u. continues to kill Arch's confidence & technique/ skills, he may be the first Manning to fizzle so bad that even the Manning's NFL legacy won't be enough to rewrite the script.

Its not like he doesn't have the tools. Tons of players every year get recruited hard who have the tools.

Some never even play, others turn out average to great. Arch is really average so far

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Last name is Manning

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AND he committed to Texas. Double whammy.

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Exactly… it's not the kids fault his name comes with crazy expectations. Now he does have to own some of the blame for going to a school with a fanbase that is full of mouth breathers and stuck-up clowns who do have crazy expectations.

He is not great, nor is he the worst qb in the country either. I think he has raw talent who could one day be a really good QB. I think we can see now why Ewers was the starter last year (I'm sure tu is kicking themselves for pushing him out from coming back for another year)

I feel for the kid (but not that much cause F'ck tu!)

Am I misremembering--I thought a few scouting reports and some online (minority but still) voiced concerns about his mechanics and level of competition in high school. I assume everyone else just saw manning and worked to sell the product.

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He's probably starting for Tulane right now had his name been Arch Smith.

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I was almost going to type this same thing . . . Arch Smith . . . But I was going to say North Texas.

13B said:

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He's still really young. Maybe he just isn't ready yet. Top that off with the unreal hype and expectations, he'd have had to be the second coming of JFF 2012 to live up to all of that. Don't get me wrong, I am glad he's not as advertised!

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it's his 3rd year in the program

This thread may come back to haunt you guys. Arch has a lot of talent. He is playing scared and on the run (literally), thanks to his horrible OL. Arch is just a kid trying to live up to the highest expectations. Even Peyton did not have this hype. He will end up starting on the NFL and winning multiple super bowls.

Peyton wasn't an awesome qb because of his arm and athleticism. He was cool in the pocket and studied/read defenses better than anyone.

I hate tu but I'm rooting for Arch. My oldest is having a similar freshman year in college rodeo. So much talent and quality practice, but he's trying too hard at the rodeo.

It was so much fun watching Peyton come to the line in Denver, read the D, call an audible and then find a seam. The defense would just start dropping their heads when he audibled. They were already beat. Just because he was so prepared. That

I'd draft him and make him backup for a few years to lessen the hype on him.

Flame away. I don't care.

Ever heard of Chris Simms? This is a habit for the longhorns - get big name legacy QB and expect a natty to fall in their laps.

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Seriously--He was pursued by EVERYBODY! Remember how Kiffin rolled out the red carpet? Bama, Georgia, everyone was after this superstar--Who sucks.

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The more ridiculous take was having him as the Heisman frontrunner. He may figure it all out and be really good, who knows.

One thing proves that ESiPN exist is them pushing this absolute bullsh!+ narrative.

They wanted it to be true sooo bad and they don't give damn that it screams corruption.

13B said:

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He's still really young. Maybe he just isn't ready yet. Top that off with the unreal hype and expectations, he'd have had to be the second coming of JFF 2012 to live up to all of that. Don't get me wrong, I am glad he's not as advertised!

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He's not that young, this is his third year at t.u.

I started a thread in 2022 about how bad he sucked in his last high school game, how he didn't look that great on his film clips, and how his season stats were nothing special when he was still a recruit. Got killed by many on here over how much talent he had.

If his name was Arch Smith, I'm convinced he's just a 2 or 3 star recruit to La Tech or something. He'll be a mid to late round draft pick one day, but that will be because of his last name just like his entire football career.

I will say, though, that his scrambling is light years ahead of his uncles (he's actually good at it). I said that even back then. But as a passer, he ain't it.

Maybe the coaching has been subpar. Quinn was supposed to be the best QB in his class. He ended up mediocre.
Same results for Arch.
Gotta wonder when future QB recruits are going to take notice.

13B said:

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He's still really young. Maybe he just isn't ready yet. Top that off with the unreal hype and expectations, he'd have had to be the second coming of JFF 2012 to live up to all of that. Don't get me wrong, I am glad he's not as advertised!

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Why do people say this? He is in his 3rd year in college. He just hasn't been good enough to play much yet.

We hear the same thing about Marcel.

Guys that are studs in college are usually gearing up for the NFL in their 3rd year of college.

Well, he almost got Livingston killed yesterday

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Other than grandpa Archie, the Mannings have very little to show for their time in college.

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I don't remember this being the case. Peyton and Eli were great college QBs.