The Banned said:

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How do you even fix the calendar? Athletes still have to enroll in the university they're going to. You can't just make a convenient free agency period that works. Kids have to be in by January in order to be participate in spring ball. Spring ball is very important to coaches and players alike.

I think the only legitimate option is getting rid of conference championships, playing the first round on the second weekend of December and finishing up the first weekend of January, no bye weeks along the way. Then teams/coaches that go deep into the playoffs are done by the transfer portal date. I don't see any other way to make the schedule work with university enrollment.

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Yes and no. "Enrolling" is a loose term, these days. With the proliferation of online classes, the enrollment period can be extended, "in special circumstances".

This is professional football. Let us not get caught up thinking something as menial as school participation will prevent a "kid" from taking a $2mil contract in late January or February, 3+ weeks into a semester, just because ... class.

ETA: "special circumstances" will not be the limitation these SEC and Big schools move towards. Some of these schools will start changing their entire academic calendar for football. Semesters will start in February and go through June, or add/drop dates will be extended to week 4 or 5, or an entirely separate add/drop will exist for athletes and/or online classes. We are less than a decade from a system in which schools merely license their brands and lease property to private equity, which subsequently runs the "program", and any semblance of student/athlete charade is finally dropped.

Most of LSU true fans view Ole Miss as their top rivalry and hate for years. The ones I know are ecstatic with the hire and who they stuck it too.

Coup?

This isn't a coup. Nobody believes OM to L$U football is a lateral or step down.

The question was if OK could put together enough to keep Kiffin. They can't. They couldn't. He gone.

The Banned said:

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How do you even fix the calendar? Athletes still have to enroll in the university they're going to. You can't just make a convenient free agency period that works. Kids have to be in by January in order to be participate in spring ball. Spring ball is very important to coaches and players alike.

I think the only legitimate option is getting rid of conference championships, playing the first round on the second weekend of December and finishing up the first weekend of January, no bye weeks along the way. Then teams/coaches that go deep into the playoffs are done by the transfer portal date. I don't see any other way to make the schedule work with university enrollment.

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1. Coaches and agents cannot be contacted to discuss new coaching positions until the day after the national championship game and no hires can occur.
2. All firings of coaches must be completed by the national championship game. Ideally, all open NFL jobs would also be publicized by this date.
3. All coaches considering leaving their schools must declare by the day after the national championship game.
4. Athletes can transfer to a new school between the fall and spring semesters, but retain their position on their current team as long as that team is in the playoffs.
5. All transfers over the winter break are done at-risk by the athletes since coaches may not be finalized. Athletic scholarships cannot be granted until one week after the NC game.
6. Athletes can transfer again after the end of the spring semester if they want to avoid risks.
7. Athletic scholarships are automatically rolled into 4-year academic scholarship if a coaching change is made and the new coach doesn't want a current player. Athlete should get the education at their current school regardless of who the coach is.

Don't care if coaches want players in before Spring practice. Plenty of time in the summer to learn the playbook. Spring practice should be spent evaluating and developing players at YOUR school. AFTER spring practice, identify your needs and then see who's available in May with the understanding that you may have to work with what you currently have.

Real reason he left is he wanted more night games.

He complained that lsu got more night games a couple years back.

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I do still believe loyalty and character are valued among most collegian fan bases.

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Division III, yes. NFL farm league, not so much.

Little Rock Ag said:

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I really don't know why we should even raise an eyebrow at Kiffin's behavior. Sure, he's acting like a d-bag, but based on what we are seeing in college football as a whole, it's to be expected. College football is ALL about the numbers now--dollars, to be exact. Worst of all, it doesn't belong to us any longer. We, the former students, along with alumni of all the colleges that play the game, can no longer stake any claim to ownership of the teams or the product. It's been stolen from us for the sake of the money, and coaches like Kiffin are just riding that wave. It's been fun to see an 11-1 season, but after the high is over, it's a sobering and sad realization that what we support isn't really Texas A&M football. It's a corporate product that has appropriated our colors, logo and tradition. So, Lane Kiffin is just a cog in that machine at the end of the day, and the good folks at Ole Miss are just pretenders, like we all are, that he was part of something in Oxford.

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This.

Are you a professional sports writer?

I have always hated Kiffin but am I missing something? He was offered a much better job and took it. The rest is the butthurt that always follows. What coach in their right mind would rather coach Ole Miss in 2026 and beyond than LSU? The timing sucks but, with all parties involved, it had to be this way. Simple as that..

DallasAg 94 said:

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Coup?

This isn't a coup. Nobody believes OM to L$U football is a lateral or step down.

The question was if OK could put together enough to keep Kiffin. They can't. They couldn't. He gone.

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They matched the LSU offer according to reports. This was all about his ego and perception that LSU is more prestigious for football as he stated in his interview with Marty. Nothing to do with money.

did he have to give all the assistants he wanted the ultimatum of "get on the plane, or you you don't have a job"?

he has left ole miss with essentially no offensive coaches as the playoff starts if the reports are true.

he was butt hurt that ole miss made the decision to not let him coach the playoff (as any SEC or Big 10 team would do) and decided to burn it to the ground on his way out

The Banned said:

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How do you even fix the calendar? Athletes still have to enroll in the university they're going to. You can't just make a convenient free agency period that works. Kids have to be in by January in order to be participate in spring ball. Spring ball is very important to coaches and players alike.

I think the only legitimate option is getting rid of conference championships, playing the first round on the second weekend of December and finishing up the first weekend of January, no bye weeks along the way. Then teams/coaches that go deep into the playoffs are done by the transfer portal date. I don't see any other way to make the schedule work with university enrollment.

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Easy, what is currently essentially free agency for college players has to end. It will never work and will destroy college football. There has to be a contract for players and a minimum of two year commitment unless eligibility ends first.

ETA, unlimited free agency does not work in the nfl either. Stupid

He will fail. He cannot coach at a place that demands results and handle the pressure.

Raiders
Tennessee
USC

Was successful at ole miss and fau where the pressure is not as high.

fireinthehole said:

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The Banned said:

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How do you even fix the calendar? Athletes still have to enroll in the university they're going to. You can't just make a convenient free agency period that works. Kids have to be in by January in order to be participate in spring ball. Spring ball is very important to coaches and players alike.

I think the only legitimate option is getting rid of conference championships, playing the first round on the second weekend of December and finishing up the first weekend of January, no bye weeks along the way. Then teams/coaches that go deep into the playoffs are done by the transfer portal date. I don't see any other way to make the schedule work with university enrollment.

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Easy, what is currently essentially free agency for college players has to end. It will never work and will destroy college football. There has to be a contract for players and a minimum of two year commitment unless eligibility ends first.

ETA, unlimited free agency does not work in the nfl either. Stupid

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The only reason there is no unlimited free agency in the NFL is because the league negotiated that with the players union. If that had never been negotiated and agreed to by the union, then it would be a free for all. How do you negotiate that at the collegiate level without a players union and uniform agreement across conferences? Right now a school could try to put that in a contract, but their recruiting would immediately go down because the large number of other options these players have.

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fireinthehole said:

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The Banned said:

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How do you even fix the calendar? Athletes still have to enroll in the university they're going to. You can't just make a convenient free agency period that works. Kids have to be in by January in order to be participate in spring ball. Spring ball is very important to coaches and players alike.

I think the only legitimate option is getting rid of conference championships, playing the first round on the second weekend of December and finishing up the first weekend of January, no bye weeks along the way. Then teams/coaches that go deep into the playoffs are done by the transfer portal date. I don't see any other way to make the schedule work with university enrollment.

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Easy, what is currently essentially free agency for college players has to end. It will never work and will destroy college football. There has to be a contract for players and a minimum of two year commitment unless eligibility ends first.

ETA, unlimited free agency does not work in the nfl either. Stupid

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The only reason there is no unlimited free agency in the NFL is because the league negotiated that with the players union. If that had never been negotiated and agreed to by the union, then it would be a free for all. How do you negotiate that at the collegiate level without a players union and uniform agreement across conferences? Right now a school could try to put that in a contract, but their recruiting would immediately go down because the large number of other options these players have.

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"uniform agreement across" the power conferences. Or a governing body of the power conferences. If this does mot happen college football will become a bigger joke.

Also, the nfl players union knew that UFA would not work.

90ags said:

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Most of LSU true fans view Ole Miss as their top rivalry and hate for years. The ones I know are ecstatic with the hire and who they stuck it too.

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Can confirm...

The Banned said:

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How do you even fix the calendar? Athletes still have to enroll in the university they're going to. You can't just make a convenient free agency period that works. Kids have to be in by January in order to be participate in spring ball. Spring ball is very important to coaches and players alike.

I think the only legitimate option is getting rid of conference championships,.

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You answered your own question
Expand field to 16 major 4 conferences get 2 spots each

ND joins a conference
Army Navy moves their game up first two round are before Christmas etc etc

Not that complicated except the conferences like that CCG money and the legacy bowls like there New years time slots and traditions

fireinthehole said:

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The Banned said:

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fireinthehole said:

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The Banned said:

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How do you even fix the calendar? Athletes still have to enroll in the university they're going to. You can't just make a convenient free agency period that works. Kids have to be in by January in order to be participate in spring ball. Spring ball is very important to coaches and players alike.

I think the only legitimate option is getting rid of conference championships, playing the first round on the second weekend of December and finishing up the first weekend of January, no bye weeks along the way. Then teams/coaches that go deep into the playoffs are done by the transfer portal date. I don't see any other way to make the schedule work with university enrollment.

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Easy, what is currently essentially free agency for college players has to end. It will never work and will destroy college football. There has to be a contract for players and a minimum of two year commitment unless eligibility ends first.

ETA, unlimited free agency does not work in the nfl either. Stupid

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The only reason there is no unlimited free agency in the NFL is because the league negotiated that with the players union. If that had never been negotiated and agreed to by the union, then it would be a free for all. How do you negotiate that at the collegiate level without a players union and uniform agreement across conferences? Right now a school could try to put that in a contract, but their recruiting would immediately go down because the large number of other options these players have.

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"uniform agreement across" the power conferences. Or a governing body of the power conferences. If this does mot happen college football will become a bigger joke.

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We theoretically have that right now with the NCAA, but they have no teeth because, at the end of the day, the athletes are still "students", and restricting a "student" from seeking to do his studies elsewhere is never gonna fly. It can't be a "governing body" telling the schools and athletes what to do, with the schools and athletes looking for a workaround.

What needs to happen is the schools themselves, through their conference agreements, agreeing not to poach each others talent, or to do so under certain parameters, ala the NFL. Now it isn't some 3rd party trying to enforce rules, but the schools making it a condition that student athletes have to agree to when enrolling. It's the schools agreeing that transfer students have to sit out a year, not a 3rd party organization forcing schools to do it.

If only one school or one conference does this, it puts them at a competitive disadvantage. So it needs to be all conferences doing it together. This will NEVER happen, which is why there will be a push for the Power 2 to breakaway from the rest. When we have one mega power conference left, consisting of 30-50 schools, then you will see some uniformity make it's way back into the picture. But as long as the SEC and B1G has to protect themselves from the Big 12 and ACC teams that are willing to buy their players, it's gonna stay a free for all.

So Louisiana's Governor went on a rant saying Brian Kelly's contract was financially irresponsible and that the next coach would be given a performance-based contract...only for LSU to give Lane Kiffin a 7-year, $91 million deal with an 80% buyout and no offset clause. https://t.co/msHBEOIqi6

— Joe Pompliano (@JoePompliano) December 1, 2025

YouBet said:

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DallasAg 94 said:

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Coup?

This isn't a coup. Nobody believes OM to L$U football is a lateral or step down.

The question was if OK could put together enough to keep Kiffin. They can't. They couldn't. He gone.

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They matched the LSU offer according to reports. This was all about his ego and perception that LSU is more prestigious for football as he stated in his interview with Marty. Nothing to do with money.

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Yes. His issue was pool money for NIL Additionally, he needed the Transfer Portal to rebuild his team every year.

What he gets at LSU is... a larger pool for NIL, but more importantly... he gets 5 Star recruits out of HS that he builds for 3 years. He'll use the Transfer Portal to supplement, where as, at Ole Miss, it was the core of his talent.

According to 247, he'll sign the #4 (#1Ath), the #12 (#1 DL), #56, #54, and #82 Nationally ranked players. His highest commit for 2026 was #111.

At Ole Miss he took in 31 Transfers last year and 26 the year before. LSU took 18 and 9.

Ole Miss is more susceptible to losing players in the Portal, where as, LSU signs so many HS players from Louisiana, it is their 1st choice.

LSU is a step up. Kiffin achieved at Ole Miss what has never been done before, which is a strong indicator of how well he did.

DallasAg 94 said:

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Kiffin achieved at Ole Miss what has never been done before, which is a strong indicator of how well he did.

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Well, no one else before him had TP and NIL, so we really don't have anyone to objectively compare him to.

The Banned said:

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fireinthehole said:

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The Banned said:

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fireinthehole said:

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The Banned said:

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How do you even fix the calendar? Athletes still have to enroll in the university they're going to. You can't just make a convenient free agency period that works. Kids have to be in by January in order to be participate in spring ball. Spring ball is very important to coaches and players alike.

I think the only legitimate option is getting rid of conference championships, playing the first round on the second weekend of December and finishing up the first weekend of January, no bye weeks along the way. Then teams/coaches that go deep into the playoffs are done by the transfer portal date. I don't see any other way to make the schedule work with university enrollment.

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Easy, what is currently essentially free agency for college players has to end. It will never work and will destroy college football. There has to be a contract for players and a minimum of two year commitment unless eligibility ends first.

ETA, unlimited free agency does not work in the nfl either. Stupid

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The only reason there is no unlimited free agency in the NFL is because the league negotiated that with the players union. If that had never been negotiated and agreed to by the union, then it would be a free for all. How do you negotiate that at the collegiate level without a players union and uniform agreement across conferences? Right now a school could try to put that in a contract, but their recruiting would immediately go down because the large number of other options these players have.

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"uniform agreement across" the power conferences. Or a governing body of the power conferences. If this does mot happen college football will become a bigger joke.

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We theoretically have that right now with the NCAA, but they have no teeth because, at the end of the day, the athletes are still "students", and restricting a "student" from seeking to do his studies elsewhere is never gonna fly. It can't be a "governing body" telling the schools and athletes what to do, with the schools and athletes looking for a workaround.

What needs to happen is the schools themselves, through their conference agreements, agreeing not to poach each others talent, or to do so under certain parameters, ala the NFL. Now it isn't some 3rd party trying to enforce rules, but the schools making it a condition that student athletes have to agree to when enrolling. It's the schools agreeing that transfer students have to sit out a year, not a 3rd party organization forcing schools to do it.

If only one school or one conference does this, it puts them at a competitive disadvantage. So it needs to be all conferences doing it together. This will NEVER happen, which is why there will be a push for the Power 2 to breakaway from the rest. When we have one mega power conference left, consisting of 30-50 schools, then you will see some uniformity make it's way back into the picture. But as long as the SEC and B1G has to protect themselves from the Big 12 and ACC teams that are willing to buy their players, it's gonna stay a free for all.

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fine, study where ever they want, but lose the privelege of playing college football for aa year. Whatever, it is completely FUBAR now.

And let us be real, most of the top college football players have not had to study for a while now.

Logos Stick said:

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So Louisiana's Governor went on a rant saying Brian Kelly's contract was financially irresponsible and that the next coach would be given a performance-based contract...only for LSU to give Lane Kiffin a 7-year, $91 million deal with an 80% buyout and no offset clause. https://t.co/msHBEOIqi6

— Joe Pompliano (@JoePompliano) December 1, 2025

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I'm sure that his sincere and heartfelt apology to Scott Woodward will be forthcoming shortly...

fireinthehole said:

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fine, study where ever they want, but lose the privelege of playing college football for aa year. Whatever, it is completely FUBAR now.

And let us be real, most of the top college football players have not had to study for a while now.

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I agree. But legally speaking, a 3rd party trying to enforce those rules will not win in court. The schools themselves have to make that call, as they don't have to allow a transfer to play for them. The NFL teams decided together to limit free agency. Universities are going to have to do the same thing.

They never will unless forced to. Form a private body, make your rules regarding playing college football, not studies, and tell the courts to butt out.

Oh yeah, I forgot about Woodward being tossed under the bus.

fireinthehole said:

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They never will unless forced to. Form a private body, make your rules regarding playing college football, not studies, and tell the courts to butt out.

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All it takes is all schools agreeing together, at the conference level. I think the B1G and SEC would agree on that right now, if it wasn't for the fact that the B1G and ACC would have an immediate competitive advantage. Once the B1G and SEC break away into their own division (which will happen at latest when the ACC crumbles), then they'll likely make those rules.

Another couple years of Big 12 and ACC teams getting stomped in the CFP will expedite the power 2 splitting off.

"What he gets at LSU is... a larger pool for NIL, but more importantl"

That is questionable. $25 million NIL is not that great and there are no longer any hometown discounts. The same people paying BK, Woodward, Lane Kiffin OM buyout and the LSU offensive staff buyouts write the NIL checks. Spending $70 million for a coaching change is significant, even for billionaires. LSU has put itself in a deep hole financially.

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Kiffin later added: "I talked to God, and he told me it's time to take a new step."

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God takes the time to talk to Kiffin? Why do I seriously doubt that?

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Kiffin later added: "I talked to God, and he told me it's time to take a new step."

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God takes the time to talk to Kiffin? Why do I seriously doubt that?

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I think just about every person I've ever known could have benefited from God telling them which next job to take, myself included, and it never happened. Lane must be a lucky guy

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Glad to be watching this from the outside

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For once

The Banned said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Kiffin later added: "I talked to God, and he told me it's time to take a new step."

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God takes the time to talk to Kiffin? Why do I seriously doubt that?

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I think just about every person I've ever known could have benefited from God telling them which next job to take, myself included, and it never happened. Lane must be a lucky guy

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As my late Mom used to say, "God answers all prayers, just most of the time that answer is no."

La. governor on Fox about thirty minutes ago. Crowing about how happy everyone is at LSU to have Kiffen. That state is third world cringy.

Om said somewhere that they didn't want him to coach if he was leaving. They thought he might try to poach some of their players. They're probably spot on with that reasoning.