They don't want to play teams with a winning record because they lose those games.

AgLA06 said:

---

wangus12 said:

---

aggiehawg said:

---

Wait! This can't be correct, can it?

A newsy wrinkle from Bevacqua: As part of an MOU signed last spring, Notre Dame is assured of a CFP berth if it is ranked in the top 12 starting next year.

If this year’s situation unfolds next year, the final at-large team (Miami) would have gotten bumped for No. 11 Notre Dame.

— Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) December 7, 2025

---

If that's real, every school needs to stop scheduling ND. That is absolute bs

---

It's not BS. It's literally how it should be for every team. What the hell is the point of ranking teams if it doesn't mean anything?

---

It's BS that only ND gets that special rider. This is the definition of "Rules for thee; not for me".

The fact that ND gets this carve out is one of the main reasons this entire playoff system is broken and needs to be reset.

So, next year we end up at 11 and don't make the playoff. ND ends up at 12 and makes the playoffs. That could actually happen. Thus, Sankey and the other commissioners need to be burning this thing down right now over this carve out. That is so unfair it's criminal.

We must feast on the corpse of the tart!!!

yup, and regular players (especially those with nfl draft potential) will only care if its a playoff, or if they get more NIL $ to play the bowl.

Scotty Appleton said:

---

No love for ND, but I would like to see more of the fringe teams do the same. JMU & Tulane don't belong The committee bullshat needs to change. Ags should be ranked above Oregon at the least. I have no problem with Miami in over ND, but Miami should have been ranked higher the past few weeks. Anything that throws shade at the selection criteria is a good thing IMO.

---

One Go5 being invited each year is lawsuit prevention. ACC needs to fix their tiebreakers. Everyone needs to include OOC losses in tiebreakers.

Wabs said:

---

I thought Catholics didn't pull out?

---

Regardless of whether the snub was justified or not, opting out of a bowl game is a stupid business decision under the circumstances. Bowl games give a team three more weeks of practice (essentially an extra spring practice). They threw that away. In this case, they have a running back with a legitimate shot at a trip to New York for the Heisman ceremony, so what do they do? They throw a public tantrum that is guaranteed to piss off more than a few of those traditional Heisman voters. I think Jeremiyah Love can safely make alternative plans for that weekend now.

BostonAg74 said:

---

Regardless of whether the snub was justified or not, opting out of a bowl game is a stupid business decision under the circumstances. Bowl games give a team three more weeks of practice (essentially an extra spring practice). They threw that away. In this case, they have a running back with a legitimate shot at a trip to New York for the Heisman ceremony, so what do they do? They throw a public tantrum that is guaranteed to piss off more than a few of those traditional Heisman voters. I think Jeremiyah Love can safely make alternative plans for that weekend now.

---

Heisman is awarded before the bowl games. He will be fine.

I understand that Notre Dame felt snubbed, but I think opting out of a bowl game is foolish because it means throwing away an opportunity for 3 more weeks of practice.

YouBet said:

---

BostonAg74 said:

---

Regardless of whether the snub was justified or not, opting out of a bowl game is a stupid business decision under the circumstances. Bowl games give a team three more weeks of practice (essentially an extra spring practice). They threw that away. In this case, they have a running back with a legitimate shot at a trip to New York for the Heisman ceremony, so what do they do? They throw a public tantrum that is guaranteed to piss off more than a few of those traditional Heisman voters. I think Jeremiyah Love can safely make alternative plans for that weekend now.

---

Heisman is awarded before the bowl games. He will be fine.

---

I don't get your point. Neither the timing of the ceremony or the bowl games has anything to do with who wins. The timing of the voting does, however.

Heisman votes are due tomorrow. The general consensus was that many voters were holding out their votes until after this weekend's games, when at least four Heisman hopefuls were playing in championship games. Like I said, Notre Dame's tantrum came at a bad time when one of its players will need every vote he can get just to be a finalist. Not a good time to piss off the voters.

ND right now: Inanimate?! I'll show you inanimate!!

BostonAg74 said:

---

YouBet said:

---

BostonAg74 said:

---

Regardless of whether the snub was justified or not, opting out of a bowl game is a stupid business decision under the circumstances. Bowl games give a team three more weeks of practice (essentially an extra spring practice). They threw that away. In this case, they have a running back with a legitimate shot at a trip to New York for the Heisman ceremony, so what do they do? They throw a public tantrum that is guaranteed to piss off more than a few of those traditional Heisman voters. I think Jeremiyah Love can safely make alternative plans for that weekend now.

---

Heisman is awarded before the bowl games. He will be fine.

---

I don't get your point. Neither the timing of the ceremony or the bowl games has anything to do with who wins. The timing of the voting does, however.

Heisman votes are due tomorrow. The general consensus was that many voters were holding out their votes until after this weekend's games, when at least four Heisman hopefuls were playing in championship games. Like I said, Notre Dame's tantrum came at a bad time when one of its players will need every vote he can get just to be a finalist. Not a good time to piss off the voters.

---

Your post reads that not playing their bowl game and foregoing three weeks of practice would harm his chances of winning because voters won't get to see him play again. That's just how it reads so that's how I interpreted it.

Playing this bowl game is irrelevant for this award though. I doubt any voters are going to hold him personally accountable for the schools decision to not play their bowl game.

Commander Gorn said:

---

If I was a senior I'd hate to know my last game is already behind me

---

If you're a draftable Sr you aren't playing anyways.

I wished all non-playoff teams would opt out. Unbelievable that anyone would waste time watching those boring games.

I have come on here and been very respectful of Texas A&M....even talking about how they should keep their head up after the Texas loss. Now they want to laugh and **** on Notre Dame....ok. But I'll make sure and return the favor when you lose in the playoffs.

I'll be here, Charlie31.....lets see how the Aggies do in the playoffs and Aggies last National Championship....1939....

aggiehawg said:

---

akm91 said:

---

How does Miami move up 2 spots and ND drop a spot when neither team played? BYU lost and dropped a spot but Bama lost and didn't? Just be consistent.

I don't really care that ND missed out but their losses are to two ranked teams by a total of 4 points. Miami's losses are to unranked teams including one at home.

---

The Committee was playing games. They put BYU between ND and Miami so they could avoid the head to head. Then BYU s*** the bed and ND and Miami were next to each other. They could no longer avoid the issue. Yurachek further told Committee members to actually watch that game between Miami and ND before they decided.

Now as for Bama, all I've got is that number one priority was NOT to penalize a CCG participant for losing that extra game.

---

Except BYU. They were punished

IrishDave said:

---

I have come on here and been very respectful of Texas A&M....even talking about how they should keep their head up after the Texas loss. Now they want to laugh and **** on Notre Dame....ok. But I'll make sure and return the favor when you lose in the playoffs.

---

Maybe defend why your team is being little *****es and refusing to play in a bowl game and prove that they should have been in. Probably would have gotten Texas in the Citrus bowl, that would have been a fun game to watch.

Punished by not being the playoff before and not being in after?

IrishDave said:

---

I'll be here, Charlie31.....lets see how the Aggies do in the playoffs and Aggies last National Championship....1939....

---

The only game against the Fightin' Texas Aggies and your Notre Dame Fighting Irish about which I will every care was the 1988 Cotton Bowl Classic. That was my junior year in the Fightin' Texas Aggie Band, in my hometown of Dallas, Texas, with the Aggies winning 35-10, the largest-ever deficit by any Irish team losing in a bowl game, while shutting down Dallas-born-and-raised Irish Heisman Trophy recipient Tim Brown.

I respect the rich traditions and history produced by your Irish. Nevertheless, it was wrong for Notre Dame to throw a temper tantrum and not participate in a bowl game just because they did not earn a CFP spot this year. Notre Dame has consistently gotten preferential treatment by national championship selection committees, as they did in 2021, so boo-hoo to you and the Irish for thinking you should quit and not take on the challenge of a bowl game opponent.

Gig 'em!!!

Notre Dame is so tiresome. Enough, already!

YouBet said:

---

4 said:

---

YouBet said:

---

Part of me doesn't blame them. I hope this breaks the current model. The #20 and #24 teams made the playoff and they didn't.

Would be awesome if BYU opts out a well just to prove a point.

---

BYU won't move the needle.

But Notre Dame and Texas will Force changes if they both opt out.

---

Probably although Texas doing it would be epic entitlement since they wouldn't have made playoff even if it was really the top 12 teams.

I do find this funny that ND didn't make it, FTR. I mostly despise them so this brings me joy but they are getting hosed all the same.

---

SEC Teams might find themselves on the "out of favor" list, if they start passing up $ bowl games.

IrishDave said:

---

I have come on here and been very respectful of Texas A&M....even talking about how they should keep their head up after the Texas loss. Now they want to laugh and **** on Notre Dame....ok. But I'll make sure and return the favor when you lose in the playoffs.

---

You want respect? Join a conference and let somebody else determine who you play, where you play, and when you play. Scrap that special carve out for a guaranteed spot if you're ranked at #12 or above. Nobody should make the playoffs just because they have more fans that have a poll vote.

IrishDave said:

---

I'll be here, Charlie31.....lets see how the Aggies do in the playoffs and Aggies last National Championship....1939....

---

I mean, cool we know we've underachieved historically.

Yet with all the build in notre dame advantages and you thumping your chest, 1988 aint so hot either.

I will be hoping that JMU or Tulane pull off an upset. That would be funny as hell.

IrishDave said:

---

I'll be here, Charlie31.....lets see how the Aggies do in the playoffs and Aggies last National Championship....1939....

---

Have fun watching from the couch.

IrishDave said:

---

I have come on here and been very respectful of Texas A&M....even talking about how they should keep their head up after the Texas loss. Now they want to laugh and **** on Notre Dame....ok. But I'll make sure and return the favor when you lose in the playoffs.

---

BQ78 said:

---

At least they know how we felt in 2020

---

X1000000.

Still mad about that

fav13andac1)c said:

---

BS, if anything Notre Dame could use it as an opportunity to prove the committee wrong. But they decided to throw a fit instead.

A&M was snubbed for Notre Dame in 2020, but there were almost no opt outs for the Orange Bowl and we won big and proved our point.

It's embarrassing for them and childish. What kind of lesson are you teaching by doing that?

---

Hard to do that when 1/2 your players opt out for potential NFL or portal money along with 1/2 the other team. Who knows how good either one is?

Ags83 said:

---

What bowl game were they scheduled to go to and against whom?

---

Pop Tarts Bowl against BYU. I think they saw they were propped up by a crappy schedule and didn't want to justify the committee's decision by getting beat by an actual playoff worthy opponent.

Bowl games make money for ESPN. That's why they are played it's part of these big TV contracts each conference gets. Sure the games and opt outs suck but the TV time between Christmas and New Year day is money for networks. Live sports is one of the few guaranteed eyes on TV now even a no name bowl at 2 o'clock on Dec 27th would be double or triple the price to run your 30 second spot.

IrishDave said:

---

I have come on here and been very respectful of Texas A&M....even talking about how they should keep their head up after the Texas loss. Now they want to laugh and **** on Notre Dame....ok. But I'll make sure and return the favor when you lose in the playoffs.

---

It's not just now, never liked the special treatment ND has always been given. Until yesterday, they finally did the right thing.

i actually have liked Freeman but him opting out of the bowl game is a horrible look. And I think once he gets past the emotion of yesterday m, he will actually regret them doing it.