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Do You Consider this a Successful & Great Season?

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Sterling82
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If we had been well prepared and played well today but lost to a team that was just better or caught the breaks, I would say it was a successful season. Playing the way we actually played today with a once again inadequate game plan the season is a lost opportunity.

What Elko doesn't seem to realize is that A&M has been there and done this. The season is much like 92 but in 92 I think we knew our limitations as we went through the season. This year we had the appearance of a real contender all year (even friends from SEC powerhouses that usually looked at us with a jaundiced eye were saying as much) but down the stretch, starting right after the new contract, we didn't play well and looked like hadn't prepared to play.
If we're building a culture of "finish" we damn sure failed at that.
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Does anyone remember running the table in the SWC only to fall flat on our face in a bowl game? This ending is all too common and doesn't have a victory over 'sip to salve the sting of this loss.
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JustisWalkert said:

11-2 in Elko's second season and made the playoffs. At least we're trending in the right direction. Let's see who we gain vs lose in the off season.


The "trend" is two straight loses by an anemic team against two highly beatable opponents.
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Nope….. just year 86 of mediocrity in the books.


The ONLY valid ANNUAL goal for ALL Aggie Sports is a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

Gig'em !
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A typical A&M flop !
No conference championship, a beat down by our biggest rival, and laying an egg in the first round of the playoffs.
Once Again......A&M.........Accepting mediocrity !
NEXT YEAR IS HERE.......again
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VatoLocoAggie said:

Why or why not?
I don't know what the team goals were.

I really want to say it was but my heart says no.

Explain.


Another loss to biggest rival
Fed on weakest teams in SEC
Putrid loss at home in playoff to mediocre ACC team
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coldmoose said:

I am just sad.
I got caught up. Again.
Realistically I knew winning it all would be a long shot. But a playoff win at Kyle Field.
Why do I allow myself to hope. Just deflated. been there for 40 years, welcome aboard


Formerly Known as Powerstroke Ag
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It was a very disappointing ending our season with 2 consecutive losses to Texas (away) and Miami in a first-round playoff game at home after an 11-0 start, but I consider this to be a great season for several reasons:

1. 11-2 (7-1 SEC) finish, the best season since an 11-2 (6-2 SEC) finish in 2012.

2. 11 regular season wins, the most since 12 regular season wins in 1992 and the most in either the Big 12 (1996-2011) or SEC (2012 to present)

3. CFP appearance for the first time and first-ever home playoff game

4. 7-1 SEC record, best finish outside of an 8-1 SEC finish in 2020

5. Undefeated 7-0 regular season home record for the first time ever

6. Snapped a 7-game losing streak in November Road games with a 38-17 win at Missouri on 11/8, our first November or later road win since a 34-13 win at Tennessee on 12/19/2020

7. Snapped 7-game road losing streak to Power 5 nonconference teams with a 41-40 win at Notre Dame on 9/13, our first road win over a Power 5 nonconference team since a 14-12 win at Pittsburgh on 9/7/2002

8. Snapped a 6-game road losing streak to LSU with a 49-24 win on 10/25 with a win in Baton Rouge for the first time since an 18-13 road win on 9/3/1994
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8-4 with a bad coach and an easy schedule. I have a job in his price range and would be fired with his performance. Garbage leadership. Fire cheeseburger.
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The problem with saying "we beat preseason expectations" is we can expect to be bad every season then be happy with a mediocre result.
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Iraq2xVeteran said:

It was a very disappointing ending our season with 2 consecutive losses after an 11-0 start, but I consider this to be a great season for several reasons:

1. 11 regular season wins, the most since 12 regular season wins in 1992 and the most in either the Big 12 (1996-2011) or SEC (2012 to present)

2. CFP appearance for the first time and first-ever home playoff game

3. 7-1 SEC record, best finish outside of an 8-1 SEC finish in 2020

4. Undefeated 7-0 regular season home record for the first time ever

5. Snapped a 7-game losing streak in November Road games with a 38-17 win at Missouri on 11/8, our first November or later road win since a 34-13 win at Tennessee on 12/19/2020

6. Snapped 7-game road losing streak to Power 5 nonconference teams with a 41-40 win at Notre Dame on 9/13, our first road win over a Power 5 nonconference team since a 14-12 win at Pittsburgh on 9/7/2002

7. Snapped a 6-game road losing streak to LSU with a 49-24 win on 10/25 with a win in Baton Rouge for the first time since an 18-13 road win on 9/3/1994

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This was an ABSOLUTE DISASTER.... Prove me Wrong?

We get a "Home Game" on National TV.... 3 Points!

Marcel Reed will never start another game!

Watch and Learn!
























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No.

We never close and elko can't either. Prove me wrong
Big-D
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You must love Mr 8-4. Pathetic. Next year will be ***** Ec
Excuse train is on schedule. I won't donate till they wake up. 3rd generation with 4th there now. Morons in charge. Want a real leader, reach out.
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Big-D said:

You must love Mr 8-4. Pathetic. Next year will be ***** Ec
Excuse train is on schedule. I won't donate till they wake up. 3rd generation with 4th there now. Morons in charge. Want a real leader, reach out.

No, I don't like 8-4 finishes. 11-1 exceeded my ceiling of 10-2 and prediction of 9-3. I listed several reasons why I think this was a successful season. We had not won 10+ games since an 11-2 finish in 2012, and we had not won 11 regular season games since 1992. We had never finished better than 6-2 in SEC games, outside of an 8-1 finish in 2020.

If Elko can go at least 9-3 against next year's tougher schedule that features 10 regular season games against Power 4 opponents: 9 conference games and a nonconference game against Arizona State, he will prove that this year's 11-2 (7-1 SEC) finish wasn't just because of a favorable SEC schedule.
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No. This team folded down the stretch and did not get better as the season went on. They plateaued during the LSU and Mizzou games.
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Should players have incentive clauses like coaches? Conf championship. CFP win. Natty.
A&M Give Us Room!
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Silent For Too Long said:

Ozamataz Buckshank 01 said:

I believe this will be Elko's best season in his 5 or 6 year run. I expect that we will be mediocre for the next 2 or 3 seasons with the reason being that the program is rebuilding. 8 and 5 will be our average record. We might pull a 9 win season somewhere in the middle or in the 5th year. That might help him survive for a 6th.


Yeah, I'm sure there are a lot of rational, well reasoned data points that lead you to believe that the most successful start to a head coaching career in A&M history has peaked.

Another great take.


Elko's start is not as good as Sumlin's.
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If you didn't enjoy this season you should seriously consider doing something besides Aggie football in your life
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Historically great season for A&ms standard.

The way it ended at QB is not promising though, trended down to the point that you can't win with his level of play.
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Last time we went 11-2 they made a DVD about the season and people still talk about how magical it was to this day.

This year we do it after spending 12 years dormant in 8-5 land and it's a disappointment
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It was a success from the perspective that we did not drop a game that we shouldn't have lost like we typically do. It was a failure from the perspective that every win we had save Notre Dame was against a bottom dweller of the SEC. One could argue that the LSU win was noteworthy, but we can all agree that the LSU team of this year is far different than a typical one.

Nothing ever seems to change with this program. We are simply incapable of meeting the moment. We always drop the ball. Now we've extended a coach that may very well be NOT the solution we need. We've embarrassed ourselves before live audience once again. Our failure to meet the moment is the strongest and most enduring tradition we have…sadly.
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You lost to Texas and to a middling Miami team in the first round of the playoffs. The rest of your schedule was dog ***** I wouldn't call that a successful season.
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RightWingConspirator said:

It was a success from the perspective that we did not drop a game that we shouldn't have lost like we typically do. It was a failure from the perspective that every win we had save Notre Dame was against a bottom dweller of the SEC. One could argue that the LSU win was noteworthy, but we can all agree that the LSU team of this year is far different than a typical one.

Nothing ever seems to change with this program. We are simply incapable of meeting the moment. We always drop the ball. Now we've extended a coach that may very well be NOT the solution we need. We've embarrassed ourselves before live audience once again. Our failure to meet the moment is the strongest and most enduring tradition we have…sadly.

LSU went 6-7 (3-5) in Ed Orgeron's final season in 2021, and we could not even beat that LSU team in Baton Rouge. We finished 8-4 (4-4 SEC) despite beating Alabama and Auburn in the same year because of 4 losses to Arkansas, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, and LSU.
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No a lucky one
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Anyone that considers this a great season is contributing to the problem we've had and will continue to have
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Yes, going 11-1 regular season is a successful season.
Hamburger Dan
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Successful season, not great. The detractors will say an easier schedule, is what got the team into the Playoffs.
(This is true) Eventually, gotta learn to beat Texas, if you want more respect.
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Not really. It IS a step in the right direction from our years of total mediocrity, but, we basically barely won games. All season long I kept on having that feeling of "well, a W is a W" but they were almost all ugly wins, took some luck, not convincing, not dominant in any sense. To me outside of a few moment of brilliance, we looked good but not great.
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Big-D said:

8-4 with a bad coach and an easy schedule. I have a job in his price range and would be fired with his performance. Garbage leadership. Fire cheeseburger.

Do you really want to fire Coach Elko?

If so, I suggest you take a look at this: https://texags.com/s/70865/the-2025-2026-college-football-coaching-carousel




With all of these coaching firings/hirings, who do you think we could get that would be an upgrade?
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Won some games but no titles.
8-4 or 11-2 they are the same if you don't actually win something.

2nd or 16th are both losers in the end.
When it's all said and done it's now 27 years without a title.
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Artorias said:

If you make the playoffs, it is by definition a successful season. Not necessarily a great season.

This.

The problem with evaluating many things is the human tendency to think in black/white, yes/no, on/off, etc. There's actually scientific reasons our brains do this. When posed with the question "Do you want this or that," our brain will lock in on the choices offered. The answer is sometimes "neither," even though that choice was not offered.

My thoughts on the season for the TLDRs...

  • 2025 was highly successful beyond my expectations to start the season. I am satisfied Elko has us rising and building staying power, as we have been wanting. We need to reopen the QB position for competition. All other "issues" going into 2026 are common and manageable for elite programs (which we are on the cusp of being). If we are defining "great" only as "win the national title" or making it to a certain spot in the playoffs, then I guess it wasn't "great". But I would say it was great for the aforementioned - program building.
My thoughts on the season, and conclusions as of today, no particular order -

  • Elko is an elite coach, glad he's ours and glad we extended.
  • This season exceeded my expectations by a lot. I expected "improvement," not a team in the playoffs. Thought we would lose 2 "for sure" (LSU and sips) and likely a third (one we "should on paper" but eked out a loss) in the regular season. Didn't think we would be in the conference title hunt, and maybe only in the playoff discussion (e.g., like ND was this year). But thought we would be sitting here today at least recognizing the progress and looking forward to next season. We blew past that, and I would say made some real program building strides this year. What happened this year only proved the thesis that 2024 had some "hidden progress" in the program. Expecting that thesis to continue to pay dividends in 2026.
  • QB: We need to reopen the position. Reed is "good," not elite, and I don't see him becoming "elite." The talk of him being a Heisman candidate was marketing over substance. Again, for those that may hate this comment, it's not an "on/off" one I think he is a "very good QB," (e.g., 7 out of 10, sometimes an 8, but National Title teams usually have a 9 or a 10 here). But the second half of this season proved to me he is capped (inconsistencies creep in at bad times even on his touch and accuracy in short passes, any pass threat over around 25 yards is not there except on rare occasions, etc. I grant he has good legs, but in this league your game needs to be more than just scrambling). We now live in an age where players wanted to be paid and themselves transfer at will, we should avail ourselves of that and seek an elite QB through the portal, give O'Neil a chance in the offseason, etc. If Reed doesn't like it and leaves, that's simply the age of NIL - it's business. Again, I am not advocating for him to leave or even saying definitively replace him next year. Simply be above board and publicly open the position up again for all applicants. Pessimistic about this position in 2026 if we don't even open it up (because I think Reed is capped) - neutral about this position if we open it up.
  • RBs: Honestly, this is a head scratcher for me. Yes, we really miss Moss. But I don't think it matters as I expected the second half of the season Owens, Smith and Morrow to do a little better than we saw. OL was fine. We do need a bruiser (e.g., Tombs type) for short yardage, that hurt us all season after Moss's injury. Hope Elko plunders the portal here for one. I do think Morrow and Owens will develop more next year (sophomores next season). But we have a gap here to fill for 2026. Concerned, but not negative here for 2026. (I am assuming Moss does not return)
  • OC: Consistent with my comment that Elko is an elite HC, I trust him to make the right decisions. We pay well, and IMO, Texas A&M is an elite destination in college football (money, facilities, resume builder, etc.). Coordinators change quite often in college football. If Elko sees something in Wiggins, I trust that decision now, we will evaluate that decision in the 2026 season. But Elko for me has already proven he can evaluate talent well, both in his coaching staff and in his players (and before someone throws this comment as a defense of Reed, yes, I think Elko was right to defend Reed earlier this year as yes, Reed made progress over last year... I just personally believe Reed has capped out and am fine with and would applaud if Elko opens the position for competition). Optimistic but wondering.
  • O Line: Similar thoughts here as with OC. Elko develops players and recruits well and has proven he can evaluate talent. Yes, I am worried we basically lose our O Line this year, but the machinery is in place and will only worry about it next season when we can evaluate it. Optimistic but wondering.
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BCR said:

Won some games but no titles.
8-4 or 11-2 they are the same if you don't actually win something.

2nd or 16th are both losers in the end.
When it's all said and done it's now 27 years without a title.

Respectfully disagree. Progress in the program building cannot be overlooked. They are not the same. Only one team annually wins the National Title. Currently, only 12 teams go to the playoffs annually. An 8-4 team is not playoff caliber. 11-1 in the regular season is in the SEC. It boils down to "If you only two choices this year were to have a team that does not go to the playoffs, or one that does," which would you pick and why?
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11-2 is a great season

the Ags played 6 big time programs this year:

Notre Dame
Auburn
Florida
LSU
Miami
t.u.

and went 4-2

and avoided upset losses to mid-tier programs we expect A&M to always be better than:

Arkansas, Missouri, South Carolina, and State
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Excited about next season. It will be year 3 for Elko.

Our ceiling is high.
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