agracer said:

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Bill Superman said:

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Off_The_Wood said:

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Was the other thread on this just deleted?

Regardless, I'm not in love with these offense hires. And I'm a staunch Elko defender. It would be one thing if our offense has been elite and the strategy was to retain that identity. But I was really hoping for an infusion of new philosophies/perspectives.

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The offense was elite until Klein threw in the towel for kstate. The identity is there, it was the playcalling by Klein in crucial moments and not plying to Reed's strengths that was our downfall.

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I see no matter how many times it's pointed out that Reed missed multiple open receivers (throwing it over their heads, in the dirt or or to the other team or just not seeing them) the "bad play calling" lemmings will not stop jumping off that cliff.

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Reed didn't play well the last two games, we know that part. But it all stars with the coaches, and your boy Klein dropped the ball in a major way. Better playcalling would have helped Reed immensely, there's no arguing that.

Fishwrangler11 said:

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Dex_Mick_Bear said:

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Texas A&M QB Marcel Reed and newly promoted QB coach Joey Lynch have a history dating back to Reed’s high school days at MBA

That familiarity should go a long way as Reed and the Aggies offense navigate the future post-Collin Klein. pic.twitter.com/OTB6aJIrZ1

— Tony Catalina (@Tony_Catalina) January 1, 2026

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This to me is a HUGE red flag. What did we all say we wanted more than anything with the new QB coach, "A new voice to elevate our QB game." How is this anything but just giving Marcel sycophants to tell him what he wants to hear? We don't need someone to be his buddy if he's going to elevate his game. Additionally, we don't need Marcel anymore comfortable than he already is or reasons to dissuade competition from coming here.

Very disappointed in Elko's handling of this.

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Be honest, you're very disappointed that Elko made a decision to put Marcel in the best position for him and thus the team to succeed (and hey - maybe he's also just a damn good coach in general, something you have zero idea of) because you ultimately don't want Marcel to be the starter.

It's OK to admit it. Funny how so many on this board dance around the obvious. We all see it.

Bill Superman said:

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agracer said:

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Bill Superman said:

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Off_The_Wood said:

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Was the other thread on this just deleted?

Regardless, I'm not in love with these offense hires. And I'm a staunch Elko defender. It would be one thing if our offense has been elite and the strategy was to retain that identity. But I was really hoping for an infusion of new philosophies/perspectives.

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The offense was elite until Klein threw in the towel for kstate. The identity is there, it was the playcalling by Klein in crucial moments and not plying to Reed's strengths that was our downfall.

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I see no matter how many times it's pointed out that Reed missed multiple open receivers (throwing it over their heads, in the dirt or or to the other team or just not seeing them) the "bad play calling" lemmings will not stop jumping off that cliff.

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Reed didn't play well the last two games, we know that part. But it all stars with the coaches, and your boy Klein dropped the ball in a major way. Better playcalling would have helped Reed immensely, there's no arguing that.

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Please tell us exactly what play calling would have been "better"? Everyone likes to dump on Klein like he was telling Reed to. throw the ball to the other team, behind receivers, over receivers, in the dirt, or pull the RPO when the RUN was clearly there.

So, please give us some examples. There are obviously plenty to choose from since so many keep telling us it was all on Klein for "bad play calling".

Sterling82 said:

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Bill Superman said:

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Off_The_Wood said:

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Was the other thread on this just deleted?

Regardless, I'm not in love with these offense hires. And I'm a staunch Elko defender. It would be one thing if our offense has been elite and the strategy was to retain that identity. But I was really hoping for an infusion of new philosophies/perspectives.

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The offense was elite until Klein threw in the towel for kstate. The identity is there, it was the playcalling by Klein in crucial moments and not plying to Reed's strengths that was our downfall.

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I agree. The last two games we abandoned establishing a running game and didn't seem inclined to get into heavy sets to help that cause. In my opinion we put too much on Reed's shoulders and doggedly stuck with it even when he was off.

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The running game did seem to disappear vs tu and Mia. But let's not forget there were plenty of yards slipped away by Owens vs tu. There was like 4 plays when he flat out fell down with no contact.

Wrong thread

agracer said:

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Bill Superman said:

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agracer said:

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Bill Superman said:

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Off_The_Wood said:

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Was the other thread on this just deleted?

Regardless, I'm not in love with these offense hires. And I'm a staunch Elko defender. It would be one thing if our offense has been elite and the strategy was to retain that identity. But I was really hoping for an infusion of new philosophies/perspectives.

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The offense was elite until Klein threw in the towel for kstate. The identity is there, it was the playcalling by Klein in crucial moments and not plying to Reed's strengths that was our downfall.

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I see no matter how many times it's pointed out that Reed missed multiple open receivers (throwing it over their heads, in the dirt or or to the other team or just not seeing them) the "bad play calling" lemmings will not stop jumping off that cliff.

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Reed didn't play well the last two games, we know that part. But it all stars with the coaches, and your boy Klein dropped the ball in a major way. Better playcalling would have helped Reed immensely, there's no arguing that.

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Please tell us exactly what play calling would have been "better"? Everyone likes to dump on Klein like he was telling Reed to. throw the ball to the other team, behind receivers, over receivers, in the dirt, or pull the RPO when the RUN was clearly there.

So, please give us some examples. There are obviously plenty to choose from since so many keep telling us it was all on Klein for "bad play calling".

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I really liked our offense overall under Klein. That said, not adjusting the approach (Elko ultimately is responsible for this) with that wild cross wind was maddening. Miami clearly adjusted and Beck dinked and dunked all day. Ripping wr screens and seam throws across the hash in that wind was asking too much, especially for a qb who isn't the most accurate in the world. Miami dumbed it down and prayed they would do just enough to win. With the home field advantage we should have done the same.

Off_The_Wood said:

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Was the other thread on this just deleted?

Regardless, I'm not in love with these offense hires. And I'm a staunch Elko defender. It would be one thing if our offense has been elite and the strategy was to retain that identity. But I was really hoping for an infusion of new philosophies/perspectives.

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The bottom line is that Elko sees that a problem exists and improvement needed

Elko looks like he is looking for continuity. Wiggins will still be the WR coach.

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Better playcalling would have helped Reed immensely, there's no arguing that.

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You're right, Klein could've cut down the offense to a level Reed could handle. Could've given him just 1 read for every play, which is what Reed seems to be most comfortable with, drawn up more designed QB runs, or whatever simplification you think would've been best. The question is, would this cut-down offense have won us more games? Would it have led to us playing Ohio St. yesterday?

I think probably not. There's a reason that type of offense isn't the gold standard: it doesn't work well enough to win you a natty.

Would we rather our OC create a championship-level offense our subpar QB struggles to operate? Or should he create a subpar offense that our subpar QB can operate easily?

For me the choice is simple.

Off_The_Wood said:

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Was the other thread on this just deleted?

Regardless, I'm not in love with these offense hires. And I'm a staunch Elko defender. It would be one thing if our offense has been elite and the strategy was to retain that identity. But I was really hoping for an infusion of new philosophies/perspectives.

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hiring from within is how you stagnate a program

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Bunk Moreland said:

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Fishwrangler11 said:

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Dex_Mick_Bear said:

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Texas A&M QB Marcel Reed and newly promoted QB coach Joey Lynch have a history dating back to Reed’s high school days at MBA

That familiarity should go a long way as Reed and the Aggies offense navigate the future post-Collin Klein. pic.twitter.com/OTB6aJIrZ1

— Tony Catalina (@Tony_Catalina) January 1, 2026

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This to me is a HUGE red flag. What did we all say we wanted more than anything with the new QB coach, "A new voice to elevate our QB game." How is this anything but just giving Marcel sycophants to tell him what he wants to hear? We don't need someone to be his buddy if he's going to elevate his game. Additionally, we don't need Marcel anymore comfortable than he already is or reasons to dissuade competition from coming here.

Very disappointed in Elko's handling of this.

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Be honest, you're very disappointed that Elko made a decision to put Marcel in the best position for him and thus the team to succeed (and hey - maybe he's also just a damn good coach in general, something you have zero idea of) because you ultimately don't want Marcel to be the starter.

It's OK to admit it. Funny how so many on this board dance around the obvious. We all see it.

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He was let go from Vanderbilt as an OC/QB coach. Promoting an analyst to a job that he was previously fired from just to make a QB comfortable doesn't seem ideal.

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Clark Lea, in an effort to save his job, had to basically buy the valuable NMSU staff to come along with Pavia. That's the only reason he was "let go." There wasn't a space for him with Beck and Altman bringing Pavia over.

Oh wait, we're now promoting a guy who has a very close relationship with our qb instead of going outside? Wow, novel concept. Almost sounds like what Vandy did with Pavia.

If it works most of us will be thrilled. If it doesn't the rest of us will be thrilled.

Elko's loyalty to his staff will be his downfall. Bateman should have lost play calling duties during the season last year. And frankly, likely should have been fired in the offseason.

His hands off approach to Klein was an issue (how do you let Klein call a RB pass from the wildcat using a freshman, up 1 on the goal line in the USCe game). He was given a gift by Klein returning to KSU. Only to make numerous promotions from within from an offensive staff that underperformed.

Maybe he is prioritizing stability given other staff leaving for promotions, but he should realize that promoting from within for an offensive staff that underperformed is a risk in itself.

He's gonna make the same loyalty mistake with Reed as well.

While I am underwhelmed by the Lynch hire, I also agree with what the Sugar Bowl announcer said tonight. In this game the team with the most physicality in the trenches usually win. Get real maulers in the OL and DL and it won't really matter who the QB coach is.

I learned in business that to think you have the best replacement already in your building is pretty arrogant and very self-unaware. The chances of these 2 being a better fit is slim and none. Hope I'm wrong. I've bashed Reed a ton but if they can use him properly I can see him improving. He need's to be rolling out, using play action under center and RPO. He's done much better when they called those plays.

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I learned in business that to think you have the best replacement already in your building is pretty arrogant and very self-unaware. The chances of these 2 being a better fit is slim and none. Hope I'm wrong. I've bashed Reed a ton but if they can use him properly I can see him improving. He need's to be rolling out, using play action under center and RPO. He's done much better when they called those plays.

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Again, just admit you don't like Reed and you don't want him starting. Being straight forward would kill these threads a lot faster.

Also, nobody gives a **** about what you "learned" in business. In my business, promoting from within far outweighs hiring outside. But my business isn't football. Stop applying your own world experience to a high level college football program. None of our lives match that industry.

Don't we need an offensive line coach?

If these 2 guys were the answer why were they not in these positions since they came on board? If you are shooting for the same results you hire from within. Since we can't beat teams at our talent level we need someone with a more dynamic and better history of being creative. Don't confuse effort with results on Reed. He is what he is, 7 INT's annd 0 TD's against tu(x2) and Miami. Dominates lesser teams. As I said in the post I think he can be a good qb but he needs to be in a system that uses his skill sets properly….someone from outside the current mindset and environment.

Why weren't the guys that Saban promoted from analyst to coordinator already serving in the capacities they were promoted to? I guess Saban was an idiot too, right?

Texas A&M’s QB coach Joey Lynch talking his QB development philosophy:

“It’s our job to make sure that individual can play as fast and as confidently as he can possibly play; and that word ‘confidence’ goes a long way…only through accuracy confidence will come.”

(CoachTube) pic.twitter.com/n0Xukfrols

— Tony Catalina (@Tony_Catalina) January 2, 2026

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Texas A&M QB Marcel Reed and newly promoted QB coach Joey Lynch have a history dating back to Reed’s high school days at MBA

That familiarity should go a long way as Reed and the Aggies offense navigate the future post-Collin Klein. pic.twitter.com/OTB6aJIrZ1

— Tony Catalina (@Tony_Catalina) January 1, 2026

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They all get one year. We look like crap for the third year in a row and there better be a new QB and entirely new offensive staff or im out on Elko

Such a risky move to run it back

Can you explain through statistics how our offense was crap? Or is this just through your eyeball test?

You mean like Steve sarkisian(head coach/OC at multiple schools), Billy Napier(OC at other schools), Butch Jones(head coach and OC at other schools? These analysts were brought in after having significant roles elsewhere. Not no names who coached high school 3 years ago. When you are looking for a different results and higher level of play you can't keep the same line of thinking and coaching. I hope I'm wrong and Reed blows up the SEC next year and we win meaningful games and we make a legit run at the National Title! Just my opinion. It's a forum where we can freely share thoughts on the program. I'm an alumni and supporter for 30 years. Just trying to be objective of the program and not viewing through emotional maroon glasses.

Which of the two coaches elevated coached HS 3 years ago?

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Why weren't the guys that Saban promoted from analyst to coordinator already serving in the capacities they were promoted to? I guess Saban was an idiot too, right?

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Saban would usually bring in outside guys on offense in the years they struggled there. But when they were good which was almost every year he would promote from within. Offense has been a failure for us the last two years

Saban would also tell his OC to go kick rocks if he took a new job and was too focused on that, like he did with Kiffin

Saban would also force Reed to stop eating the heisman rat poison, or find a new QB

Saban would also be ruthless and replace players and coaches who aren't performing at a championship level

Extremely disappointing

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Extremely disappointing

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How extreme is it? Elaborate with reasons.

Bill Superman said:

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agracer said:

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Bill Superman said:

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agracer said:

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Bill Superman said:

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Off_The_Wood said:

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Was the other thread on this just deleted?

Regardless, I'm not in love with these offense hires. And I'm a staunch Elko defender. It would be one thing if our offense has been elite and the strategy was to retain that identity. But I was really hoping for an infusion of new philosophies/perspectives.

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The offense was elite until Klein threw in the towel for kstate. The identity is there, it was the playcalling by Klein in crucial moments and not plying to Reed's strengths that was our downfall.

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I see no matter how many times it's pointed out that Reed missed multiple open receivers (throwing it over their heads, in the dirt or or to the other team or just not seeing them) the "bad play calling" lemmings will not stop jumping off that cliff.

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Reed didn't play well the last two games, we know that part. But it all stars with the coaches, and your boy Klein dropped the ball in a major way. Better playcalling would have helped Reed immensely, there's no arguing that.

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Please tell us exactly what play calling would have been "better"? Everyone likes to dump on Klein like he was telling Reed to. throw the ball to the other team, behind receivers, over receivers, in the dirt, or pull the RPO when the RUN was clearly there.

So, please give us some examples. There are obviously plenty to choose from since so many keep telling us it was all on Klein for "bad play calling".

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How about rolling Reed out every once in a while. Or not trying to make Reed a pocket passer for starters. Quick passes coukd help when it's super windy also.

Maybe establish the run game. And I don't mean run it up the middle every time. Or run the damn ball sometimes when you're at the goal line.

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Several quick passes were thrown and were not accurate or intercepted (last play of the game). Or they were swarmed and tackled by MIA before any yardage could be gained.

They did try to run against tu, and Owens fell down multiple times with zero contact.

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Can you explain through statistics how our offense was crap? Or is this just through your eyeball test?

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I'll explain it in simple statistics. I know most ags suffer from mental diseases when it comes to football

We've played 3 games the last 2 years where the winner gets a chance to play for a trophy. These are the games that matter

A trophy is what you get when you win your conference or a national championship

We are 0-3 in these important games. The offense has scored 27 total points in those games. 9 points per game in the real games is really crap and almost impossible to win. 7 of those points (26%) were scored by the defense.

The QB in those games has 0 touchdowns and 7 turnovers. That's really crap. Turnovers are the worst thing an offense can do

We need a new QB. Not sure QB coach is going to make a difference