*****Official World Cup 2019 USWNT vs. Sweden Match Thread*****

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3:12p, 6/20/19
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Here we go again with VAR. Same bad call IMO as the Australia game but at least consistent.
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3:13p, 6/20/19
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correct decision that should not have taken this long
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3:13p, 6/20/19
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If it takes this long, it should be upheld. 100% of the time.
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3:13p, 6/20/19
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As I've said at least once already this WC, just go back to the 'no offside on deflection' interpretation and be done with the 'effect the play' interpretation.
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3:14p, 6/20/19
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I'm a few minutes behind but that Swedish trainer was cleaning the blood out of the Swedish players mouth without gloves.
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3:16p, 6/20/19
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this should be a goal the same as they had a goal earlier in the tournament, thinking the Austraila game.

That being said, my opinion is offside.
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In reply to tysker • 3:16p, 6/20/19
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As I've at least once already this WC, just go back to the 'no offside on deflection' interpretation and be done with the 'effect the play' interpretation.


IMO that was always a terrible interpretation. That penalizes a defender for attempting to play a ball when they are not sure the attacker is offsides.
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3:27p, 6/20/19
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Sweden is a tall drink of water. They have some giants on the field.
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In reply to AustinScubaAg • 3:28p, 6/20/19
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AustinScubaAg said:
tysker said:
As I've at least once already this WC, just go back to the 'no offside on deflection' interpretation and be done with the 'effect the play' interpretation.


IMO that was always a terrible interpretation. That penalizes a defender for attempting to play a ball when they are not sure the attacker is offsides.
I dont disagree wth the thought but I was always taught to never trust the linesman and if you're gonna just stab at through ball you better make good contact. Also its an easier to define, understand and implement for refs and players. How can anyone really determine "affecting the play"?
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3:28p, 6/20/19
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Not sure what Lloyd was arguing about. Definitely a foul.
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3:29p, 6/20/19
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Fantastic ball on the set piece.
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3:30p, 6/20/19
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US has lost some focus the past 10 minutes. Settle it down.
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3:31p, 6/20/19
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That will always be offsides in my book. We have an attacker, offsides, off the shoulder of a defender who is forced to awkwardly play the ball. You are in that play even though you don't touch it.
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In reply to tysker • 3:32p, 6/20/19
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tysker said:
AustinScubaAg said:
tysker said:
As I've at least once already this WC, just go back to the 'no offside on deflection' interpretation and be done with the 'effect the play' interpretation.


IMO that was always a terrible interpretation. That penalizes a defender for attempting to play a ball when they are not sure the attacker is offsides.
I dont disagree wth the thought but I was always taught to never trust the linesman and if you're gonna just stab at through ball you better make good contact. Also its an easier to define, understand and implement for refs and players. How can anyone really determine "affecting the play"?
I just hate that that is open to interpretation. There is another part of the law where they use the word close. What is close?
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In reply to PatAg • 3:37p, 6/20/19
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That will always be offsides in my book. We have an attacker, offsides, off the shoulder of a defender who is forced to awkwardly play the ball. You are in that play even though you don't touch it.
Even on a poor pass back to the keeper? Last touched by defense shouldnt be offside imo.
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3:40p, 6/20/19
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The style of play over the last five minutes makes me want to puke.
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In reply to tysker • 3:40p, 6/20/19
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If you were offsides when the ball was played in, then you're offsides. Should be a simple rule
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In reply to tysker • 3:41p, 6/20/19
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tysker said:
PatAg said:
That will always be offsides in my book. We have an attacker, offsides, off the shoulder of a defender who is forced to awkwardly play the ball. You are in that play even though you don't touch it.
Even on a poor pass back to the keeper? Last touched by defense shouldnt be offside imo.
Has to be a pass and not a save or deflection.



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3:42p, 6/20/19
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Rapinoe was anonymous tonight
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In reply to PatAg • 3:43p, 6/20/19
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If you were offsides when the ball was played in, then you're offsides. Should be a simple rule
Read this. And there is no such thing as offisides.

https://www.fifa.com/mm/document/afdeveloping/refereeing/law_11_offside_en_47383.pdf
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In reply to PatAg • 3:43p, 6/20/19
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If you were offsides when the ball was played in, then you're offsides. Should be a simple rule
As an example, that misplay by OHara would have been offside had a Swede been in the 6 yrd box by your standard. Taking away a corner for the Swedes.
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3:46p, 6/20/19
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Very lackluster second half. Good news is this is the worst the team has looked in France and they're beating Sweden 2-0. That says something there.
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3:46p, 6/20/19
Is it just me or is Mallory Pugh a little bit of a cutie?
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In reply to Rudyjax • 3:48p, 6/20/19
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I Am Mine said:
tysker said:
PatAg said:
That will always be offsides in my book. We have an attacker, offsides, off the shoulder of a defender who is forced to awkwardly play the ball. You are in that play even though you don't touch it.
Even on a poor pass back to the keeper? Last touched by defense shouldnt be offside imo.
Has to be a pass and not a save or deflection.
Define 'deflection.' If a keeper throws the ball off the the back of his/her own players head and deflects to an offensive player in an offside position it shouldnt be called as offside, imo.

Also goes to show how boring the game has become that we're having this convo.
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3:50p, 6/20/19
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7min
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In reply to tysker • 3:50p, 6/20/19
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tysker said:
PatAg said:
If you were offsides when the ball was played in, then you're offsides. Should be a simple rule
As an example, that misplay by OHara would have been offside had a Swede been in the 6 yrd box by your standard. Taking away a corner for the Swedes.


Didn't see the player you are referring to, where was O'Hara when she misplayed it. The Swede would have needed to be near her in your example
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In reply to tysker • 3:51p, 6/20/19
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tysker said:
I Am Mine said:
tysker said:
PatAg said:
That will always be offsides in my book. We have an attacker, offsides, off the shoulder of a defender who is forced to awkwardly play the ball. You are in that play even though you don't touch it.
Even on a poor pass back to the keeper? Last touched by defense shouldnt be offside imo.
Has to be a pass and not a save or deflection.
Define 'deflection.' If a keeper throws the ball off the the back of his/her own players head and deflects to an offensive player in an offside position it shouldnt be called as offside, imo.

Also goes to show how boring the game has become that we're having this convo.


Your example would not be offsides and never has.
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In reply to Not a Bot • 3:51p, 6/20/19
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Cactus Jack said:
7min

Hey, think of it as more time for the riveting offsides discussion.
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3:52p, 6/20/19
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Define 'deflection.' If a keeper throws the ball off the the back of his/her own players head and deflects to an offensive player in an offside position it shouldnt be called as offside, imo.

I didn't use the exact wording of the law. It would not be offside because it wasn't a save, (the deflection). I may be wrong here but that's how I read it.

If there is a save whether ty the keeper or the defender, a player in an OSP is offisde.
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3:53p, 6/20/19
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We're just killing the game off and it's boring to watch and nothing to talk about
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In reply to PatAg • 3:53p, 6/20/19
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PatAg said:
tysker said:
I Am Mine said:
tysker said:
PatAg said:
That will always be offsides in my book. We have an attacker, offsides, off the shoulder of a defender who is forced to awkwardly play the ball. You are in that play even though you don't touch it.
Even on a poor pass back to the keeper? Last touched by defense shouldnt be offside imo.
Has to be a pass and not a save or deflection.
Define 'deflection.' If a keeper throws the ball off the the back of his/her own players head and deflects to an offensive player in an offside position it shouldnt be called as offside, imo.

Also goes to show how boring the game has become that we're having this convo.


Your example would not be offside and never has.
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3:54p, 6/20/19
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lets talk about the swedish team..do want
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In reply to gambochaman • 3:55p, 6/20/19
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gambochaman said:
lets talk about the swedish team..do want
So in their prime, who was a better soccer player.

Mia Hamm or Alex Morgan?

We're talking about soccer skills only.
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In reply to PatAg • 3:57p, 6/20/19
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PatAg said:
tysker said:
PatAg said:
If you were offsides when the ball was played in, then you're offsides. Should be a simple rule
As an example, that misplay by OHara would have been offside had a Swede been in the 6 yrd box by your standard. Taking away a corner for the Swedes.


Didn't see the player you are referring to, where was O'Hara when she misplayed it. The Swede would have needed to be near her in your example
Corner of the 18. Looked like she meant to send a long ball toward midfield but bounced bad and went off the side of her foot for a corner. No Swede near her. If OHara accidentally had misplayed a ball that landed at Swede in an offside position, it shouldn't be offside imo.

Similarly if there are two defenders and one kicks teh ball off the other and deflects back to an offenders in an offside position, it shouldn't be offside.
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3:58p, 6/20/19
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You are extremely confused with how offsides works.
Your own team needs to play the ball originally
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