That's kind of my point. We're talking about the best perimeter defenders of the 00s and you're trying to talk about a playoff series from the mid-90s.

Well, to be fair, the topic is "players you cannot stand". So I guess you can just add Dream to your list? That way this whole conversation is valid and relevant.

Current:
KG
D Fish
Melo
Some dude who wears number 6 on Dwanye Wade's Miami Heat
Bosh
Tim Thomas
Al Holford

Past
Kelvin Cato
Maurice Taylor
Starbury
Stockton
Malone
Antoine Walker
Jason Williams (not white chocolate or the murderer)
Baron Davis
Ricky Davis

If you have hate in your heart, let it out

But that playoff series from the mid 90's was an all-time classic. I've never seen anything like it, before or since. It was the greatest individual performance over a series that I have ever seen. The Dream was indescribably good.

Birdman
K-Mart
Andres Biedrens
Andre Kirilenko
Mike Bibby
Baron Davis
Both the Lopez Twins
Andersen Varejo
Manu Ginobli
Nate Robinson
Meta World Peace
Lebron/Wade (Though the respect is there)
Kevin Love
Ricky Rubio


The players I love

Dirk
Kobe
Blake
DeAndre
Nash

Danny Fortson, although I doubt he plays anymore.

For you Matt Bonner haters: http://www.nba.com/spurs/features/120223_bonner_rodeo_road_trip

Kenyon Martin, JR Smith, basically the nuggets team when Melo was there. Rasheed Wallace. Paul Pierce. Jermaine O'neal.

Shark that was hilarious. I'm not sure what there is to hate about Bonner.

He's great.

I don't hate Bonner, I just don't want him in the playoff rotation.

He does always disappear during the playoffs. But if we want to have any chance at contending, he needs to be in there to spread the floor (and hitting his shots). If we don't have them in there, we don't have a shot IMO.

Garnett, Antoine Walker, and Gary Freaking Payton.

As a hardcore Rockets fan of the last two decades, my list is a bit different:

1. Any member of the Utah Jazz from '08-'10 (Williams, Boozer, Kirilenko, Korver, Okur, Brewer)
2. Kobe
3. Ginobli
4. Tony Parker

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He does always disappear during the playoffs. But if we want to have any chance at contending, he needs to be in there to spread the floor (and hitting his shots). If we don't have them in there, we don't have a shot IMO.

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This. Unfortunately he is pretty inconsistent. But I still like the guy and love rooting for him. The dude seems to be a pretty genuine guy.

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RJ can already go out and hit a decent percentage of 3s and not defend, rebound, or contribute to the offense in any other way.


The Spurs have 6 players (counting Bonner) who shoot 35% or better from 3 and play more than 20 minutes per game. Parker's percentage from 3 isn't that good this year, but he still spreads the court pretty well with his jumpers. Yes, Bonner is fantastic at hitting open threes, but there aren't that many open threes in the playoffs so he struggles.

It's not about only about hitting the threes. It's about opening up the lane by bringing a big on the other team out of there. Pop went on to say this is the best ball Bonner has ever played in his career. And it's not like the Spurs have many options at the 4/5. He and Tiago will get a lot of playing time with Blair getting the short end of the stick in the playoffs.