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he's been top 10 even before this game

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How's his d**k taste token?

Even if Lebron retired today, I can only think of maybe 6 players whose career achievements I would rank above his. Kareem, MJ, Magic, Russell, Shaq, Duncan.

Thank god NBA history intervened and we didn't get a Danny green MVP. The nba is the elite professional sport

@NBAHistory: Back to Back #NBAFinals MVPS: MJ (91-93, 96-98); Hakeem (1994, 1995), @Shaq (00-02), @KobeBryant (2009, 2010), LeBron James (2012, 2013)

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That Lebron James, he just ain't clutch.

What else can you come up with?

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You'd be surprised. Around the middle of the 4th quarter of game 6 a friend said ""Great players don't wait till the 4th quarter to start playing great...". I couldn't help but think that Lebron used to get chit from detractors for doing just the opposite. It never stops, until he is absolutely perfect all the time.

Well when you're being compared to MJ, you pretty much have to be perfect. Especially when the biggest insult you can muster against the dude is that he's only one of the top 5 players ever to play the game at this point.

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Well when you're being compared to the memory of MJ, you pretty much have to be perfect

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MJ was the GOAT.

The memory of MJ is twice that good.

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It never ceases to amaze me how people refuse to appreciate the privilege of watching Lebron play. I don't know that there has ever been anyone like him. He is an incredible athlete. Massive, but still able to effectively guard virtually anyone, including a guy like Tony Parker. He plays selfless basketball and fills up the stat line. The guy can go for 32/11/10 and haters still criticize. It's weird.

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Was pulling for the Spurs, but LeBron sure did shut down Parker and the Spurs in the final quarter of game seven.

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Yeah, because he's the only player to complain to the refs...it's comical seeing people invent reason to bag on Lebron...He scores 50 points, well he didn't pass the ball, he has a triple double, well he didn't score enough, he shoots jump shots, well he's scared to go to the basket, he goes to the basket, well he complained to much about fouls...he saves a dog, well he must hats cats...

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Explains people's thought on LeBron almost perfectly.

How often does nba finals MVP lead his team in scoring, rebounds in assists in the playoffs?

It hasn't happened in a year!

Oh, and Duncan led the Spurs in 03 in Points, Rebounds, Blocks, and Assists. Manu got him in steals, though.

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MJ was the GOAT.

The memory of MJ is twice that good.

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Good friggin point.

Lebron, is a great player, but I do think there is a high probability he would have been a borderline all star if he played in Jordans era.

Just look how much he whines and complains after every single play, and imagine how he would have reacted to the Pistons Jordan faced. He would miss multiple possessions at a time just trying to figure out why he didn't get the call he thought he deserved. Rodman would have been so far inside his head he would missed entire seasons for therapy.

He might have learned to toughen up mentally, and vent his frustration by destroying someone with his physical talent and ability, but I don't have much confidence in it.

If he doesnt like the criticism or scrutiny, he can certainly stop playing. Pulling stunts like "the big decision" doesnt help his cause. Just play and let your performance speak for you. I dont dislike LeBron, but having a lot of talent comes with strings in any sport or entertainment venue.

So basically Lebron haters are idiots that cant think straight due to....hate

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If he doesnt like the criticism or scrutiny, he can certainly stop playing. Pulling stunts like "the big decision" doesnt help his cause. Just play and let your performance speak for you. I dont dislike LeBron, but having a lot of talent comes with strings in any sport or entertainment venue.

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It's either embarrassing or comical that people still refer to "the decision" as the reason they don't like Lebron. THAT WAS 3 YEARS AGO...The man was 3 apg away from averaging a triple double in the finals, just won back to back championships and Finals MVP's, along with his back to back NBA MVPS...what more does his performance need to say?

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Borderline allstar in MJ's era? Have you lost your GD mind?

Lebron haters are like internet nerds that find fault in a supermodels. "Candice Swanepoel is hot but she has pointy elbows." "Kate Upton would be hotter if she didn't have skinny ankles."

Just ignore them because they're impossible to please.

Borderline allstar in the 90's.

Newsflash for all of the 90's basketball nuthuggers: 90's to early 00's basketball is the most overrated era in history. The league expanded by 25% in that era and the talent didn't really catch up until the mid-00's. The idea that Lebron would only be a fringe all star in that era is laughable and ridiculous.

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He would have been a borderline all star if he played in Jordans era.

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Bro.

Ok. Name the mid 90's All-Stars that would've been ahead of Bron

GSoup:

So LeBron and Duncan have done it. Who else?

Zach Lowe had the following quote in his column yesterday... and it is are spot on and yet another reason Lebron would be way more than a borderline all star in the 90's:

www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/66331/why-the-heats-big-three-are-champions-and-the-nbas-star-system-works

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James has done nothing but eviscerate the league since those 2011 Finals. He might be the game’s best elimination-game player since Bill Russell, and maybe the best ever. The next time he has a so-so Finals performance, please spare me the dreck about how he’s shrinking from the moment. He’s faced more big-stage moments than any player on earth over the last two seasons, and he’s risen to all of them. If he looks passive in one or two games, as he did in Game 3 of this series, it’s not because he’s mentally weak or unsure of himself as a player.

It’s probably because a smart team with big players at multiple positions is packing the paint in ways that were against the rules when Michael Jordan, the false foil for LeBron, was in the league.

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For those saying Lebron is no Magic Johnson. Did you see his interview with Lebron on Thursday? Magic was showering him with so many compliments it was ridiculous. Magic said hes seen everybody play and Lebron has a chance to be the best of all time. Even Magic thinks Lebron is better than himself.

Magic a moran tho.

Lots of trolling going on here

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Lots of ignorance going on here

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FIFY. And I'm not calling people names, I truly believe that haters are haters merely because they ignore reality. Bias is a hell of a psychological concept.

Lebron has a chance to be better than Magic but he still has a ways to go. I agree it is foolish to act as though Lebron is anything less than one of the greatest players ever to play but at this point he still needs to put more skins on the wall to get there. He has some ground to make up because he took a while to really become the great player he is now.

It's not about disrespecting Lebron, it's about not disrespecting Magic. Magic was unreal for a very long time, won 5 Rings, 3 MVP's (in an era with Larry Bird at his peak and MJ winning his first 5 scoring titles), and multiple Finals MVP's as well. He won titles in college. He won as a rookie. He got to the Finals and was 2 assists from a Triple Double Average in that Finals in his last full season. The things that Lebron has been questioned about and is now answering were never questions for Magic. He was always living up to his potential and he was always clutch.

That gif cray.

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Borderline allstar in MJ's era? Have you lost your GD mind?

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I may have been exaggerating a bit.

If you took 2003 Lebron and dropped him in the NBA in 1984, he could have still have a solid argument at being the most talented and athletic player in the league. The problem is that I don't think he would have been able to develop nearly as well as he has. Once he started pulling his "I'm just going to stand here and cry next to the official while I tell him how the bully hit me" routine, even the nicest players would be trying to take his head off every time he went to the rim. If he had grown up in that era he might be tougher, but I just don't think this Lebron would be able to handle it mentally.

I think his attitude towards refs is a product of the times.

Thats why comparing players from different eras is tough, its like trying to seriously analyze Jordans play vs the Monstar Charles Barkley.

I just don't think the current Lebron could handle the mindset of the game then. Some of todays players might be able to adjust well, but I think Lebron would probably be among the players that experienced the largest drop-off (I'm not counting Euros, I am assuming they would not survive the time travel).