***** 2025-2026 San Antonio Spurs Thread *****

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AggieEP
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In reply to FTAG 2000 • 8:36a
FTAG 2000 said:
I also don't want to see us selling seconds for couch change money.

Spam a bunch of long fours and guys who can shoot and see if you can hit another lotto ticket.

I do think that we have to let Harrison Ingram become a free agent this year after two years as a two-way, so we should be taking at least one of those 2nd round picks as a two-way. I'm hoping that at 35 we try to legitimately roster a guy as a replacement for Kelly/Plumlee/Lindy and hope to hit the lotto there. So I'm expecting us to use two of the picks, and probably sell the other one or flip it for some rando future 2nd round pick.

If for some reason we did trade for another 1st round pick this year, then I think we only make a 2-way pick in the 2nd round because there is a limit to how many young guys you want on this team, we need at least a few cheap vets around.

I was spitballing around crazy ideas in my head this morning and thought how this trade actually makes a ton of sense for both teams (except that it will never happen)

OKC sends us 12 and 17 this year

We send OKC 20 and 35 this year and next years unprotected ATL pick. OKC then likely trades 35 or 37.

OKC has a roster crunch and just simply CANNOT roster 2 more rookies this year and the chance to add a lottery ticket for next year that could hit 1/1 might be too much to pass up even though it limits who they could add this year. I think they want to run it back next year with as much of the same squad as they can, so I think that also incentivizes them to not add many rookies this year because they won't have minutes to allocate to those guys anyway.

We take Carr at 12 and Morez at 17

Just my fun morning musing, no way on earth that the Spurs and Thunder do business with each other though.
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 9:14a
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Thanks for your recap of the past 3 drafts, that's some good insight... what a ride for San Antonio! We had 4 premium picks and it appears that we hit 1 Grand Slam, 2 Home Runs, and a Double.
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In reply to AggieEP • 9:19a
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Getting Carr and Morez for 20, the 2027 ATL and some seconds would be insane value.

I think OKC is going to make some big changes and I kind of wouldn't be surprised if they traded away Jalen Williams. Brooklyn could put together a package around #6 and future picks for Jalen Williams then OKC can take Keaton Wagler, Aday Mara, or Brayden Burries at 6 and they reset the clock on the cap crunch. Then BKN has MPJ, JDub, Claxton, Demin and Wolf? Not bad.

Moving JDub into BKN cap space allows them to keep Dort/Hartenstein and the rest of their roster basically intact.

They still have too many players, but trading any of their players will be super easy plus Kenrich Williams has a TO.
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In reply to jr15aggie • 9:20a
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jr15aggie said:
Thanks for your recap of the past 3 drafts, that's some good insight... what a ride for San Antonio! We had 4 premium picks and it appears that we hit 1 Grand Slam, 2 Home Runs, and a Double.

I think we got the best player available with 4 straight picks in 3 drafts. The only way it could be better is if we went after some seconds.
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It's an interesting thought and I don't mind it from the Thunder's perspective. Alot probably depends on Presti's assessment of where he thinks the Hawks 27 unprotected first will land.

What I'm curious about with OKC is if they're intent on keeping their "big 3" together and also paying Ajay, there's quite a few guys on the roster in addition to Dort/Hartenstein that will be difficult to retain. Namely Caruso and Cason.

Looking at the Thunder's current roster construct, it doesn't seem like they need anymore guards. And like you said, their current roster slots are basically full anyway. But if you assume Caruso and/or Cason are eventual casualties of making an Ajay commitment (maybe after 2027), the Thunder could see which guard(s) slip to 12 and start working on the backfill now.

Basically, if you assume SGA, Jdub, Chet and Ajay are going to be in the fold, the rest of the roster seems like it would just turn into a rolling rotation of guys on rookie deals and/or guys willing to accept super team friendly deals.

They have two firsts this year and three next year. I wouldn't necessarily expect them to use all of them, but I think it's possible they use more than people expect as some of their current role players are traded or let walk to alleviate cap.

Just thinking out loud.
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 9:24a
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Getting Carr and Morez for 20, the 2027 ATL and some seconds would be insane value.

I think OKC is going to make some big changes and I kind of wouldn't be surprised if they traded away Jalen Williams. Brooklyn could put together a package around #6 and future picks for Jalen Williams then OKC can take Keaton Wagler, Aday Mara, or Brayden Burries at 6 and they reset the clock on the cap crunch. Then BKN has MPJ, JDub, Claxton, Demin and Wolf? Not bad.

Moving JDub into BKN cap space allows them to keep Dort/Hartenstein and the rest of their roster basically intact.

They still have too many players, but trading any of their players will be super easy plus Kenrich Williams has a TO.

If the Thunder are intent on locking up Ajay, I'm more and more of the mindset that dealing Jdub is the right way to go. Watching him potentially blossom elsewhere would suck, but dealing him comes with the double positive of 1) getting an elite cheap future asset in return (i.e. pick 6) and 2) the ability to pay Ajay, Cason and maybe Hart with his vacated salary.
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In reply to Deluxe • 9:33a
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Guitarsoup said:
Getting Carr and Morez for 20, the 2027 ATL and some seconds would be insane value.

I think OKC is going to make some big changes and I kind of wouldn't be surprised if they traded away Jalen Williams. Brooklyn could put together a package around #6 and future picks for Jalen Williams then OKC can take Keaton Wagler, Aday Mara, or Brayden Burries at 6 and they reset the clock on the cap crunch. Then BKN has MPJ, JDub, Claxton, Demin and Wolf? Not bad.

Moving JDub into BKN cap space allows them to keep Dort/Hartenstein and the rest of their roster basically intact.

They still have too many players, but trading any of their players will be super easy plus Kenrich Williams has a TO.

If the Thunder are intent on locking up Ajay, I'm more and more of the mindset that dealing Jdub is the right way to go. Watching him potentially blossom elsewhere would suck, but dealing him comes with the double positive of 1) getting an elite cheap future asset in return (i.e. pick 6) and 2) the ability to pay Ajay, Cason and maybe Hart with his vacated salary.

I think it makes more sense than letting Dort/Hart go. They have to cut like $50M and JDub makes $41M by himself and Kenrich makes 7.

Caruso is a really valuable role player, BUT that deal OKC signed him to is WAY overpriced. 3y63M is too much for an 18mpg role player and Caruso's value really only exists on contending teams -- so that is like 5 teams. He's already 32 so paying him 22M when he is 35 when his shooting was 42/29 this year is rough. I think he is a negative asset to 25 teams and OKC probably doesnt want to move him to the other 4.

If you move Dort/Hart, you have to be sure JDub will be healthy and that Sorber will be a player next year. There are no good centers in the 12-17 range, but several PFs. That means OKC will likely have to go smaller and they have to cobble together 50M in salary to exit. I just think the JDub trade to Brooklyn makes the most sense.

Chicago can't absorb all his contract, but they could if they sent back Jalen Smith with #4, which would mean the Thunder get Caleb Wilson. Now THAT would be scary.

Harteinstein/Thomas Sorber/Jalen Smith
Chet/Caleb Wilson/Jaylin Williams

That's a crazy front court.

Bulls have Matas, JDub, Giddey and the 15th pick.
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Zero chance okc trades with us. They'd trade with the Taliban before we do a deal with them.

These two franchises are going to be at war for the next decade. Nobody either front office is going to be willing to make any kind of a deal that could be looked at as a massive dynasty, tilting mistake.
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In reply to jr15aggie • 9:36a
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jr15aggie said:
Thanks for your recap of the past 3 drafts, that's some good insight... what a ride for San Antonio! We had 4 premium picks and it appears that we hit 1 Grand Slam, 2 Home Runs, and a Double.


I think you're right for now but if Carter Bryant keeps developing like I think he will, it will be 3 home runs.

And while we are on this subject, I think we need to give a big shout-out to the Spurs organization. Not only are they getting the right players, they are developing them in a way that few teams can.
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Zero chance okc trades with us. They'd trade with the Taliban before we do a deal with them.

Wonder if the Bulls would do #15 for the Hawks pick, #35 and some seconds, though. They do not have a 2nd this year. Probably not since they are rebuilding.
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 9:43a
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I think it makes more sense than letting Dort/Hart go. They have to cut like $50M and JDub makes $41M by himself and Kenrich makes 7.

Caruso is a really valuable role player, BUT that deal OKC signed him to is WAY overpriced. 3y63M is too much for an 18mpg role player and Caruso's value really only exists on contending teams -- so that is like 5 teams. He's already 32 so paying him 22M when he is 35 when his shooting was 42/29 this year is rough. I think he is a negative asset to 25 teams and OKC probably doesnt want to move him to the other 4.

If you move Dort/Hart, you have to be sure JDub will be healthy and that Sorber will be a player next year. There are no good centers in the 12-17 range, but several PFs. That means OKC will likely have to go smaller and they have to cobble together 50M in salary to exit. I just think the JDub trade to Brooklyn makes the most sense.

Chicago can't absorb all his contract, but they could if they sent back Jalen Smith with #4, which would mean the Thunder get Caleb Wilson. Now THAT would be scary.

Harteinstein/Thomas Sorber/Jalen Smith
Chet/Caleb Wilson/Jaylin Williams

That's a crazy front court.

Bulls have Matas, JDub, Giddey and the 15th pick.

Totally agree on AC. I love him and he's a perfect culture/role fit, but the last couple years on his deal are looking sketchy.

The Bulls with #4 would be my first call if I was looking to deal Jdub. I don't see a Jdub deal making sense for WAS, Utah or MEM. I think the Bulls prior regime would have been into it. The new one might be a little more responsible and value the rookie scale asset over the shinier object. And Acie Law will probably be in the ear of the new GM to urge caution about dealing with Presti ha.

But yea. If dealing Jdub allows the Thunder to keep basically the whole nucleus together (which basically won 64 games without Jdub this year) and also add an elite rookie deal asset, I feel like they gotta do it.
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Honestly, if they get the player they really want by moving up, do we really need to have 2 picks in the first round?
If there is a player they really want, I think they go all in to get that player.
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I think of we move up for Morez, keeping 20 will depend on who is there. I would rather trade it for a future pick, but if we could get a guy like Isaiah Evans or Cam Carr too, that would be amazing. Even Jayden Quaintance would be worth it, even if we have Morez.
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That might be the most ridiculous stat ever.

Good lord.
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Wolves gonna come out swinging tonight. Hope our guys are ready and can withstand the early onslaught.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:
Wolves gonna come out swinging tonight. Hope our guys are ready and can withstand the early onslaught.


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Randle locked up by a 2nd year point guard
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Brian Earl Spilner said:
Wolves gonna come out swinging tonight. Hope our guys are ready and can withstand the early onslaught.


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Guitarsoup said:
Brian Earl Spilner said:
Wolves gonna come out swinging tonight. Hope our guys are ready and can withstand the early onslaught.


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