Josh Hamilton Might Be in Trouble Again

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Twitters are reporting he's been summoned to meet with MLB about a "disciplinary issue." I know it's been fun to root against him as a baseball player since he left the Rangers, but there's nothing fun about watching another human being lose an addiction battle.

Hoping this is for something completely unrelated to alcohol and drugs.
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Here's a link:
http://www.fox4news.com/story/28201535/report-josh-hamilton-faces-disciplinary-issue-with-mlb
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Josh Hamilton meets with MLB officials


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In the Times' report, Angels general manager Jerry Dipoto confirmed Hamilton is meeting with MLB officials in New York, but he had "no other information to offer" as of right now. It also noted that if Hamilton does get suspended, "he could be out until late June or July."


Just came here to see if anybody had any more insight than the article linked above. Pure speculation of course, but it's likely an addiction issue until proven otherwise.
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@Ken_Rosenthal Asked a baseball executive if Hamilton's discipline was for PEDs. His response: "Worse." The executive declined to elaborate.
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I wonder if this will interfere with his wife's taping of the Real Housewives of Orange County.
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Curious what is "worse" than PEDs in his mind. Recreational drugs? Those are bad for him with his past, but I'd say cheating is worse......so, gambling/throwing games? Don't think that would be worse.

Seems if it was something highly illegal we'd already know.
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Just depends from what standpoint he's claiming "worse" -- worse as in a larger disciplinary penalty, or worse as in worse for him as a person.

I can root against Josh on the diamond as far as performance goes, but I can't hate a guy that put the Rangers on his back during '10-'11.
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@newsdaymarcus Josh Hamilton's father-in-law Michael Chadwick said player has "hit a bump in the road, keep him in your prayers.''
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what could be worse? maybe proof of gambling, just my guess.
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Anyone know if the Angels have an out in his contract for illegal drugs?
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@JonHeymanCBS Hear Hamilton had relapse. Believe occurred a couple months back. Involved at least cocaine.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/25081902/angels-josh-hamilton-admits-to-relapse-involving-cocaine
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If it is a single incident and him coming clean this doesn't seem a big deal baseball wise. It's big for Josh and I hope he gets well. But, coming clean shows where he is at.
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Once a crackhead always a crackhead..getting tired about hearing about his one time mess ups
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Once a crackhead always a crackhead..getting tired about hearing about his one time mess ups
To each their own, I guess.

For me, I only hate to hear about these things because I feel for Josh and I hate that he has not been able to fully overcome his demons.

I think a lot of people have their vices that they struggle with- albeit usually less destructive than Josh's. I think Josh has acknowledged that, and I think he's worked very, very hard to overcome his addictions.

And I respect him for that. If you want to say "once a crackhead, always a crackhead", fine, but a lot of crackheads truly stay crackheads because they don't seek help or make any effort at all to stop, they just keep using until they're forced to stop because they're in jail, completely out of cash, or buried 6 feet under.

I think Josh is a bit of a mental midget at times. I think he says dumb things, I think he does dumb things, and I think he (and his wife) can be a bit infuriating at times. But I can't help but feel bad for the guy when he relapses. He's worked very hard, and I really do want him to get and stay clean.
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Once a crackhead always a crackhead..getting tired about hearing about his one time mess ups
Kindly STFU
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Addiction is brutal. Prayers for him and his friends and family.
ce1994
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I too struggle with addiction. It is an old clich "take it one day at a time" but sometimes that is all one can do. Forgetting the first step will get us every time. "Hey, it has been awhile so maybe I can take a drink and drink like a gentleman". That has to be destroyed. Frankly, there is nothing wrong with having an addiction. If I were to choose a disease it would certainly be this one. As long as I keep a cork in it I will be fine. As soon as I think I can handle it I will lose everything, not just my sobriety.

He is a human being and my heart goes out to him. This will kill him if he does not get control of it. And the above comment, although meant to be crass and hurtful, is absolutely true. Josh Hamilton is a cokehead and he will always be a cokehead. The difference being is he does not have to use.

Stories like this help me remember that I too am only one misstep away from being right back in the hopeless state I once was in.
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The biggest misconception with addicts is that once they're not using they're seen as better, healed, etc. Truth is even though they're clean they're still addicts and can never fully heal from their disease.

I think this is especially the case with public figures where the media and/or public praise them, congratulate them, and put them up on a pedestal for overcoming addiction when reality is they're still struggling. They're simply clean. Hope his success and praise lately wasn't a reason for relaxing and getting off track.

**As a disclaimer...Just want to clarify that I have no first hand experience with addiction, but a wife who works with addicts and drug/alcohol abusers.
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I think you just hit on one of the big problems. People tell me how proud they are of me and I appreciate that but proud of what? Of my acting like a normal, responsible human being? To me that is like giving the slow, fat kid a participation ribbon at field day. Acceptable behavior should not be applauded but rather demanded.

Josh Hamilton never deserved any praise and he should have never made such a big deal of it. His pitfalls are now magnified and you have users thinking what is the use. Well, the use is to have a better life. To have a job, a family and things that people want. Relapse is regrettably a part of it. What I do know is I have another drink in me. What I do not know is whether or not I have another sobriety in me. So I better hold on to the one I have because it might never come back again if I lose it.
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Im glad Josh is gone and I'm glad our crackhead coach is gone too.
Know Your Enemy
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Maybe he shouldn't have spent so much time preaching to the masses and just kept a low profile.

I wish him the best but I don't feel sorry for him. I feel bad for his wife & kids, though.
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It is pride before the fall. I have seen it so many times. People get too full of themselves and bam!!! Right back in the gutter.
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Stories like this help me remember that I too am only one misstep away from being right back in the hopeless state I once was in.
This... across any circumstance.

Thanks for the transparency.
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Maybe he shouldn't have spent so much time preaching to the masses and just kept a low profile.

Josh has a very powerful testimony, and can be an inspiration to many people who are dealing with those same demons he deals with every day. The dude is human and is going to make mistakes. So he should just stop talking about his past and his road to recovery because there is a chance he will relapse and make a mistake again?

He who is without sin, may he cast the first stone...
FireAg
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Still think leaving the Rangers' organization, and the substantial support system the provided for him, was a huge mistake...
PacifistAg
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2015/02/26/josh-hamilton-relapse-mlb-suspension-roy-silver/24060571/

I would agree. He's never seemed to me to be a guy that just has a passion for the game, and that's fine. If the game and all the pressures are causing you to stumble though, then it's time to walk away.
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Still think leaving the Rangers' organization, and the substantial support system the provided for him, was a huge mistake...

You mean the coke sniffing manager?
Know Your Enemy
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Lol @ powerful testimony. God helps keep him sober? Where is God now?
Know Your Enemy
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And my point is to keep your big yap shut if you can't lay off the nose candy. I'm far from perfect so that's why I don't go preaching to others.
Houston Summit
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So, by your logic, nobody should ever mentor anyone because they are not perfect?
Houston Summit
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And yes, I absolutely believe he has a powerful testimony. You cannot tell me that he hasn't helped a single person fight substance abuse/alcoholism by offering them advice and first hand knowledge based on his experiences. People shouldn't be discounted as frauds when they have a hiccup. It's called life
Know Your Enemy
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He just let every single one of them down. Showed them that his words were horse****. IMO he makes Christians look bad by doing all this preaching and then continuing to snort coke, get drunk, and have sex with women other than his wife.
Know Your Enemy
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But the poor guy just suffers from the disease of addiction. We should all feel sorry for him.
Houston Summit
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Again, by all means, stone the man if you are without blemish. But something tells me that that is not the case...
 
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