***Official Houston Astros 2025-26 Offseason Thread***

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I agree. Its just not entertaining anymore. I get that its LA and they have the league on its knees, but I don't see how anyone actual sports fan (other than Dodgers fans) think this is good for the future of baseball
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PrestigeWorldwideAg12 said:

I hate the idea but damn it may be time to rewrite the system with a hard salary cap

Players will strike for 2 years to prevent that.
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And there will be plenty of players willing to step and still play
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PrestigeWorldwideAg12 said:

I hate the idea but damn it may be time to rewrite the system with a hard salary cap
I think I've changed my tune on it. That tweet about the Marlins salary did it for me. There should be true competitive balance in sports. Give me a salary floor and cap
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redline248 said:

PrestigeWorldwideAg12 said:

I hate the idea but damn it may be time to rewrite the system with a hard salary cap
I think I've changed my tune on it. That tweet about the Marlins salary did it for me. There should be true competitive balance in sports. Give me a salary floor and cap


I used to feel this way but you shouldn't force this idiocy on others. Salary cap only. Poverty teams are not the problem.
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PrestigeWorldwideAg12 said:

And there will be plenty of players willing to step and still play

Doubt it. The players union will make sure that anybody who plays as a scab knows they will never play again after the strike is over.
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"Oh, I'm sure of it. I hate him."
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This is more than value of about 1/3 of all MLB franchises.
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2019 Astros were goated, **** the Nats. The 30 for 30 after Altuve gets inducted into the HOF needs a whole chapter just on how good that team was
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agdaddy04 said:

EastCoastAgNc said:



And who exactly were they competing against? Because this is so much more than what was reported from the Mets, that it's insane.


It's almost as if the dodgers bid so much higher than anyone else only because they could

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EastCoastAgNc said:




Wonder if any of that was deferred, the $75M signing bonus makes me wonder why Tucker didn't take the Mets offer, that has a higher NPV with no deferrals, right?
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he didn't want to go to NY, he was just using them to up the Dodgers offer
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linkdude said:

he didn't want to go to NY, he was just using them to up the Dodgers offer


Seems weird for a guy that's apparently just about the money, I guess there are limits and if it's close enough….

But I really hope the dodgers crash and burn and he chokes on that contract

The luxury tax should be far more punitive, like lose all of your draft picks and have a 200% tax rate above a certain amount

Make it so gluttony turns into dumb money ball
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Manfred
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Dodgers

Baseball is done. Many more interesting things to spend time and money on.

Maybe it'll take enough owners seeing fans stop showing up and tuning in for this to change though I guess the broadcast revenue is there regardless.

Free yourself and delete the app.
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BadAggie said:

Manfred
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Dick

FIFY
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BadAggie said:

Manfred
Loves
Dodgers

Baseball is done. Many more interesting things to spend time and money on.

The worst part about it is the loss of interest in baseball that this will eventually drive will hurt the low payroll teams first and hardest, while it will hurt the big money teams the least. They will be the last to feel the loss of income from fans losing interest.
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No deferrals
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I hope the Dodgers win the next 7 World Series in a row, attendance plummets everywhere, their fans stop showing up until the World Series, TV ratings plummet, and Manfred has to eat a d*ck. And then the Dodgers go bankrupt in 2035 and are forced to relocate to Mexico City.
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redline248 said:

PrestigeWorldwideAg12 said:

I hate the idea but damn it may be time to rewrite the system with a hard salary cap
Give me a salary floor
That already exists via the MLB minimum wage which was $760,000 per player in 2025.
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It's almost as if the luxury tax has no impact on their decision making.
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Competitive balance is a joke. I hope he has a record setting regular season and disappears during the post season.
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txags92 said:

PrestigeWorldwideAg12 said:

I hate the idea but damn it may be time to rewrite the system with a hard salary cap

Players will strike for 2 years to prevent that.


Savanah Bananas licking their chops right now
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3rd Coast said:

No deferrals


BMX Bandit
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CBA expires 12-1-26

Lockout looks likely
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How we got here

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Way back in 2012, with the team facing imminent bankruptcy after Frank McCourt siphoned funds from the club to finance his divorce, MLB awarded the Dodgers a favorable deal to pull themselves out of a hole. The following season, they would be permitted to treat their media revenue as a maximum of $84 million for revenue-sharing purposes, a figure that would increase by 4% each year thereafter. This deal would continue for the following 25 years. (Note: yes, that is a ludicrous period of time for this kind of deal.)

In 2017, MLB realized the folly of their ways and adjusted the initial starting point to $130 million, but even that has proven to be an insufficient change. The Dodgers' TV Deal with Spectrum far exceeds that; it's valued at $8.35 billion over 25 years, or $334 million per year.



So in 2025, they got to keep $64mm that should have been in revenue sharing. $78mm in 2021



https://brewerfanatic.com/news-rumors/milwaukee-brewers/mlbs-revenue-sharing-model-has-two-big-problems-how-can-they-be-fixed-r3929/
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BMX Bandit said:

How we got here

Quote:

Way back in 2012, with the team facing imminent bankruptcy after Frank McCourt siphoned funds from the club to finance his divorce, MLB awarded the Dodgers a favorable deal to pull themselves out of a hole. The following season, they would be permitted to treat their media revenue as a maximum of $84 million for revenue-sharing purposes, a figure that would increase by 4% each year thereafter. This deal would continue for the following 25 years. (Note: yes, that is a ludicrous period of time for this kind of deal.)

In 2017, MLB realized the folly of their ways and adjusted the initial starting point to $130 million, but even that has proven to be an insufficient change. The Dodgers' TV Deal with Spectrum far exceeds that; it's valued at $8.35 billion over 25 years, or $334 million per year.



So in 2025, they got to keep $64mm that should have been in revenue sharing. $78mm in 2021



https://brewerfanatic.com/news-rumors/milwaukee-brewers/mlbs-revenue-sharing-model-has-two-big-problems-how-can-they-be-fixed-r3929/


Thanks for posting this. I have not heard anyone talk about the preferential treatment of the Dodgers TV revenue.
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I assume he means a payroll floor for every team. There are concerns that TB and Oakland just pocket their luxury tax money. Seems easier to just say no luxury tax bucks if you don't spend X in payroll. Regardless that does nothing to address the Dodgers.

I guess I just don't get as butthurt about how much money they spend. Good for them. Any team is allowed under the rules to do it. If they don't want to run it like a business but as a toy like a rich man getting a lambo that's their prerogative. Corn could easily do the same and any owner who isn't can either suck it up or sell it to someone even richer who will.
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Crazy money for a lollygagger. Can't blame him for getting as much as he can, I guess, but I'll be rooting for him to massively underperform.
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MaxPower said:

I assume he means a payroll floor for every team. There are concerns that TB and Oakland just pocket their luxury tax money. Seems easier to just say no luxury tax bucks if you don't spend X in payroll. Regardless that does nothing to address the Dodgers.

I guess I just don't get as butthurt about how much money they spend. Good for them. Any team is allowed under the rules to do it. If they don't want to run it like a business but as a toy like a rich man getting a lambo that's their prerogative. Corn could easily do the same and any owner who isn't can either suck it up or sell it to someone even richer who will.


I somewhat agree with you in that I don't blame the Dodgers for doing what they are since it's within the rules. However, the rules need a complete overhaul because what the Dodgers are allowed to do is 100% ruining a great game.
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This is pretty funny
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I still can't get over the idea that someone thinks Kyle Tucker is worth $60MM a year.

Is he good? Yep. Is he the MVP of the league 2 times over? Is he the batting and HR champ who plays 5* defense? Nope.

He's being paid way above his ability and production level. And all that's going to do is drive prices up for everyone else coming next.

We may look back in 4 years and recognize this contract as the one that broke baseball.
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