***Official Houston Astros 2025-26 Offseason Thread***

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Severian the Torturer
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Well that takes care of the bat at 2B, but I wonder what his defense looks like there.
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Severian the Torturer said:

Well that takes care of the bat at 2B, but I wonder what his defense looks like there.

Also puts Yordan at DH pretty much full time, which past stats review showed he doesn't hit as well when playing.
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superaggie73 said:

Severian the Torturer said:

Ag_07 said:

An OF of Smith, Meyers, Abreu would be pretty salty

Do we move 'tuve back to 2B?


I think they've already said they are doing that.


Thank goodness that experiment is over
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tjack16 said:

superaggie73 said:

Severian the Torturer said:

Ag_07 said:

An OF of Smith, Meyers, Abreu would be pretty salty

Do we move 'tuve back to 2B?


I think they've already said they are doing that.


Thank goodness that experiment is over

I could still see a world where he goes out there occasionally.
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I just hope we don't live in a world where we try to start Tuve 150 games at second. He needs at least 10-20 DH days and 10-15 off days or he's gonna wear down like last year.
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I'm really good with either.

I think Abreu has more value as he is younger.

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txags92 said:

Severian the Torturer said:

Well that takes care of the bat at 2B, but I wonder what his defense looks like there.

Also puts Yordan at DH pretty much full time, which past stats review showed he doesn't hit as well when playing.


That's been the plan all along. Espada has said he wants him mostly DHing with maybe just a few spot starts in LF.

As has been discussed we have 2 guys in Altuve and Yordan who don't really have much value defensively and need to DH mostly.

With no real defensive position for Paredes throw him in that group too. Which is why although he's a nice offensive piece, he's the odd man out and makes sense to move him.
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Trading Paredes is trading arguably your 2nd biggest bat in terms of pop..... itll be an interesting decision.
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I understand that is what Espada wants to do. But Yordan's OPS is something like 100 points lower when he DHs versus playing LF. And Altuve was the worst starting 2B defensively in 2023 and 2024 if I am not mistaken. Locking Altuve in as your everyday 2B and Yordan as your everyday DH feels like picking the worst of the available options. Not to mention that neither has been exactly Cal Ripken Jr when it comes to durability for a full season lately.
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Abreu possibility changes the game for me. I would absolutely be willing to part with Paredes if it was for Abreu.
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Mr.Bond said:

Trading Paredes is trading arguably your 2nd biggest bat in terms of pop..... itll be an interesting decision.

Really disappointed if they do that. Who plays 3B when Correa inevitably gets hurt?
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CharleyKerfeld said:

Mr.Bond said:

Trading Paredes is trading arguably your 2nd biggest bat in terms of pop..... itll be an interesting decision.

Really disappointed if they do that. Who plays 3B when Correa inevitably gets hurt?

Dubon Altuve, of course.
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CharleyKerfeld said:

Mr.Bond said:

Trading Paredes is trading arguably your 2nd biggest bat in terms of pop..... itll be an interesting decision.

Really disappointed if they do that. Who plays 3B when Correa inevitably gets hurt?

Nick Allen
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CharleyKerfeld said:

Mr.Bond said:

Trading Paredes is trading arguably your 2nd biggest bat in terms of pop..... itll be an interesting decision.

Really disappointed if they do that. Who plays 3B when Correa inevitably gets hurt?

Smith? Or the other utility guy we replaced Dubon with?
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txags92 said:

CharleyKerfeld said:

Mr.Bond said:

Trading Paredes is trading arguably your 2nd biggest bat in terms of pop..... itll be an interesting decision.

Really disappointed if they do that. Who plays 3B when Correa inevitably gets hurt?

Smith? Or the other utility guy we replaced Dubon with?


I don't think Cam comes back to the INF.

Still plenty of bodies to grab easily if someone goes down.
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But Allen is the obvious choice.

There are always utility guys out there. Remember how cheaply we acquired Aledmys Diaz or Dubon.

If the thought process is, we don't address the weak hitting OF and weak hitting vs RHP because Correa might get hurt. Then I think we're playing not to lose instead of going for it. I understand heading bets and having contingency plans though.
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Farmer1906 said:

txags92 said:

CharleyKerfeld said:

Mr.Bond said:

Trading Paredes is trading arguably your 2nd biggest bat in terms of pop..... itll be an interesting decision.

Really disappointed if they do that. Who plays 3B when Correa inevitably gets hurt?

Smith? Or the other utility guy we replaced Dubon with?


I don't think Cam comes back to the INF.

Still plenty of bodies to grab easily if someone goes down.
Urias
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But Allen is the obvious choice.

There are always utility guys out there. Remember how cheaply we acquired Aledmys Diaz or Dubon.

If the thought process is, we don't address the weak hitting OF and weak hitting vs RHP because Correa might get hurt. Then I think we're playing not to lose instead of going for it. I understand heading bets and having contingency plans though.


How do you address our weak hitting OF without getting rid of our 2nd best hitter?
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AggiEE said:

Farmer1906 said:

txags92 said:

CharleyKerfeld said:

Mr.Bond said:

Trading Paredes is trading arguably your 2nd biggest bat in terms of pop..... itll be an interesting decision.

Really disappointed if they do that. Who plays 3B when Correa inevitably gets hurt?

Smith? Or the other utility guy we replaced Dubon with?


I don't think Cam comes back to the INF.

Still plenty of bodies to grab easily if someone goes down.
Urias
Moncada
IKF
Rengifo
Moore
Urshela

But Allen is the obvious choice.

There are always utility guys out there. Remember how cheaply we acquired Aledmys Diaz or Dubon.

If the thought process is, we don't address the weak hitting OF and weak hitting vs RHP because Correa might get hurt. Then I think we're playing not to lose instead of going for it. I understand heading bets and having contingency plans though.


How do you address our weak hitting OF without getting rid of our 2nd best hitter?

Sign Belly.
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Farmer1906 said:

AggiEE said:

Farmer1906 said:

txags92 said:

CharleyKerfeld said:

Mr.Bond said:

Trading Paredes is trading arguably your 2nd biggest bat in terms of pop..... itll be an interesting decision.

Really disappointed if they do that. Who plays 3B when Correa inevitably gets hurt?

Smith? Or the other utility guy we replaced Dubon with?


I don't think Cam comes back to the INF.

Still plenty of bodies to grab easily if someone goes down.
Urias
Moncada
IKF
Rengifo
Moore
Urshela

But Allen is the obvious choice.

There are always utility guys out there. Remember how cheaply we acquired Aledmys Diaz or Dubon.

If the thought process is, we don't address the weak hitting OF and weak hitting vs RHP because Correa might get hurt. Then I think we're playing not to lose instead of going for it. I understand heading bets and having contingency plans though.


How do you address our weak hitting OF without getting rid of our 2nd best hitter?

Sign Belly.


Which we can't do because of where we are at salary wise with the CBT.

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Farmer1906 said:

AggiEE said:

Farmer1906 said:

txags92 said:

CharleyKerfeld said:

Mr.Bond said:

Trading Paredes is trading arguably your 2nd biggest bat in terms of pop..... itll be an interesting decision.

Really disappointed if they do that. Who plays 3B when Correa inevitably gets hurt?

Smith? Or the other utility guy we replaced Dubon with?


I don't think Cam comes back to the INF.

Still plenty of bodies to grab easily if someone goes down.
Urias
Moncada
IKF
Rengifo
Moore
Urshela

But Allen is the obvious choice.

There are always utility guys out there. Remember how cheaply we acquired Aledmys Diaz or Dubon.

If the thought process is, we don't address the weak hitting OF and weak hitting vs RHP because Correa might get hurt. Then I think we're playing not to lose instead of going for it. I understand heading bets and having contingency plans though.


How do you address our weak hitting OF without getting rid of our 2nd best hitter?

Sign Belly.

Sheesh, for $40mm a year?
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Severian the Torturer said:

Farmer1906 said:

AggiEE said:

Farmer1906 said:

txags92 said:

CharleyKerfeld said:

Mr.Bond said:

Trading Paredes is trading arguably your 2nd biggest bat in terms of pop..... itll be an interesting decision.

Really disappointed if they do that. Who plays 3B when Correa inevitably gets hurt?

Smith? Or the other utility guy we replaced Dubon with?


I don't think Cam comes back to the INF.

Still plenty of bodies to grab easily if someone goes down.
Urias
Moncada
IKF
Rengifo
Moore
Urshela

But Allen is the obvious choice.

There are always utility guys out there. Remember how cheaply we acquired Aledmys Diaz or Dubon.

If the thought process is, we don't address the weak hitting OF and weak hitting vs RHP because Correa might get hurt. Then I think we're playing not to lose instead of going for it. I understand heading bets and having contingency plans though.


How do you address our weak hitting OF without getting rid of our 2nd best hitter?

Sign Belly.

Sheesh, for $40mm a year?

Exactly, doesn't seem realistic. It's almost like we should go the trade route. Now, who has value on our team and where do we have excess?
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Farmer1906 said:

Severian the Torturer said:

Farmer1906 said:

AggiEE said:

Farmer1906 said:

txags92 said:

CharleyKerfeld said:

Mr.Bond said:

Trading Paredes is trading arguably your 2nd biggest bat in terms of pop..... itll be an interesting decision.

Really disappointed if they do that. Who plays 3B when Correa inevitably gets hurt?

Smith? Or the other utility guy we replaced Dubon with?


I don't think Cam comes back to the INF.

Still plenty of bodies to grab easily if someone goes down.
Urias
Moncada
IKF
Rengifo
Moore
Urshela

But Allen is the obvious choice.

There are always utility guys out there. Remember how cheaply we acquired Aledmys Diaz or Dubon.

If the thought process is, we don't address the weak hitting OF and weak hitting vs RHP because Correa might get hurt. Then I think we're playing not to lose instead of going for it. I understand heading bets and having contingency plans though.


How do you address our weak hitting OF without getting rid of our 2nd best hitter?

Sign Belly.

Sheesh, for $40mm a year?

Exactly, doesn't seem realistic. It's almost like we should go the trade route. Now, who has value on our team and where do we have excess?


Paredes has value but is not an excess, he's our second best hitter

Nobody we can trade for will be better
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That doesn't have a position. Our 2nd best hitter is worthless if he can't get ABs.

So trading a bench player with no path to regular playing time for a full time player with control who improves an area of need makes sense to me.
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AggiEE said:

Farmer1906 said:

Severian the Torturer said:

Farmer1906 said:

AggiEE said:

Farmer1906 said:

txags92 said:

CharleyKerfeld said:

Mr.Bond said:

Trading Paredes is trading arguably your 2nd biggest bat in terms of pop..... itll be an interesting decision.

Really disappointed if they do that. Who plays 3B when Correa inevitably gets hurt?

Smith? Or the other utility guy we replaced Dubon with?


I don't think Cam comes back to the INF.

Still plenty of bodies to grab easily if someone goes down.
Urias
Moncada
IKF
Rengifo
Moore
Urshela

But Allen is the obvious choice.

There are always utility guys out there. Remember how cheaply we acquired Aledmys Diaz or Dubon.

If the thought process is, we don't address the weak hitting OF and weak hitting vs RHP because Correa might get hurt. Then I think we're playing not to lose instead of going for it. I understand heading bets and having contingency plans though.


How do you address our weak hitting OF without getting rid of our 2nd best hitter?

Sign Belly.

Sheesh, for $40mm a year?

Exactly, doesn't seem realistic. It's almost like we should go the trade route. Now, who has value on our team and where do we have excess?


Paredes has value but is not an excess, he's our second best hitter

Nobody we can trade for will be better


The area of excess is the INF. We have 5 starters for 4 positions and DH isn't available.

I think it's clear Duran as good or better than Paredes. They go about it very different ways. But the team can still improve if they're about equal because it greatly improves the roster construction.
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Ag_07 said:

That doesn't have a position. Our 2nd best hitter is worthless if he can't get ABs.

So trading a bench player with no path to regular playing time for a full time player with control who improves an area of need makes sense to me.

If he is our 2nd best hitter, we need to find him a position or a way to be in the lineup every day. If that means we get rid of somebody who is vastly overpaid for their output (looking at you CW) in order to make room for him, then you do that. Trading your 2nd best hitter plus prospects for somebody who would come in as our 4th or 5th best hitter just because you can't make out a lineup card is dumb baseball.
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Ag_07 said:

That doesn't have a position. Our 2nd best hitter is worthless if he can't get ABs.

So trading a bench player with no path to regular playing time for a full time player with control who improves an area of need makes sense to me.


He can get starts, make Walker play less days at 1B if we can't trade him

He also plays 3B when Correa or Pena rests, can also DH

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How are you getting rid of CW with ownership not wanting to eat the cost, at least from all signs pointing to that being the case as of this moment?
Severian the Torturer
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You guys ever considered trading Alvarez? Yes he's a monster, when he's healthy. Does he have gigantic trade value? He's pretty expensive if he plays half a year or less.
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Beat40 said:

How are you getting rid of CW with ownership not wanting to eat the cost, at least from all signs pointing to that being the case as of this moment?


You bench him more than Paredes
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Beat40 said:

How are you getting rid of CW with ownership not wanting to eat the cost, at least from all signs pointing to that being the case as of this moment?

If ownership isn't willing to eat some of his contract then there isn't much you can do and they are probably not that serious about truly contending. But the point remains. If Paredes is one of your top 2-3 hitters, you don't sit him because somebody else is playing his position. We have it in our heads that Correa, Walker, Altuve, and Yordan are guaranteed spots in the lineup no matter what if they are healthy. But if Paredes ends up outhitting one or more of them, then my question is why are they guaranteed their spot?
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Farmer1906 said:

AggiEE said:

Farmer1906 said:

Severian the Torturer said:

Farmer1906 said:

AggiEE said:

Farmer1906 said:

txags92 said:

CharleyKerfeld said:

Mr.Bond said:

Trading Paredes is trading arguably your 2nd biggest bat in terms of pop..... itll be an interesting decision.

Really disappointed if they do that. Who plays 3B when Correa inevitably gets hurt?

Smith? Or the other utility guy we replaced Dubon with?


I don't think Cam comes back to the INF.

Still plenty of bodies to grab easily if someone goes down.
Urias
Moncada
IKF
Rengifo
Moore
Urshela

But Allen is the obvious choice.

There are always utility guys out there. Remember how cheaply we acquired Aledmys Diaz or Dubon.

If the thought process is, we don't address the weak hitting OF and weak hitting vs RHP because Correa might get hurt. Then I think we're playing not to lose instead of going for it. I understand heading bets and having contingency plans though.


How do you address our weak hitting OF without getting rid of our 2nd best hitter?

Sign Belly.

Sheesh, for $40mm a year?

Exactly, doesn't seem realistic. It's almost like we should go the trade route. Now, who has value on our team and where do we have excess?


Paredes has value but is not an excess, he's our second best hitter

Nobody we can trade for will be better


The area of excess is the INF. We have 5 starters for 4 positions and DH isn't available.

I think it's clear Duran as good or better than Paredes. They go about it very different ways. But the team can still improve if they're about equal because it greatly improves the roster construction.


Duran is about as good as Sanchez against righties, we should stick with Sanchez and platoon him

So we are not majorly improving the team when platooning the OF
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Similar to what I mentioned about including Abreu. I could definitely see us needing to include him if we want Duran. I wouldn't do Paredes and Abreu for Duran straight up so should be getting some other piece back. Good to capitalize on Abreu before free agency as you can't justify a QO for him so you get nothing.
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That straight up trade would be awful

Early/Tolle better be coming back in that package

Dana really risks making a very bad trade here
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