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The biggest breakthrough for AMD will be their server market share numbers by end of this year. If they can prove their foothold it's going to launch.

The issue they have with the console market is the margins are so tight. It'll be interesting to see how the market responds to this. The largest praise last year was the margins hit 43%.. that was with a deteriorating console share.
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Watch listing
bicmitchum
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of the stuff I own:

my favorite etf is mtum
I just bought one share of amzn.
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Long Term holds

ARKK
DIA
VSS
VTI
VTWO

FEAC - Shell corp. Good enough for Queen Elizabeth good enough for me.
ROKU
IRM


Precious metals
GLD
PALL
PPLT
SLV

Gambles
NNDM - 3D printed solderable circuit board technology
ZEST - All or almost nothing - hinges on a lawsuit
SANW - Only publicly traded seed Co. I could find (that's not under a major name)
CLSK - Power microgrid management
CHS - Wife spends too damn much money there
TNXP - Covid/TAMU research tie in.


Intend on adding more by Q3
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Bought AAPL as my only investment in 2007. Held it till 2020.

Liquidated a portion of my AAPL in 2017 and bought NVDA.

Liquidated everything in late January 2020 when I thought the pandemic would disrupt the stock markets.

I'm now back in, but have taken a more conservative approach....

Between my wife and I we own...

AAPL (I'll hold this forever)
NVDA (ditto)
MU (probably my most frustrating stock)
COOP (diamond in the rough)
OXY (wondering if this was a right play)
EDP (dividend play)
MMP (dividend play)
TJX (wife loves this place)
TSCO (daughter works at their corporate office)
LUV (while I'm not endeared to the airlines, I think these guys will make it)

10% of our holdings are in cash.

By the way, I'm 63, and am struggling with going conservative as I get closer to retirement. Had I been in AAPL 100% today I would have made a killing.

I don't do penny stocks, options, am not in Robinhood, and don't gamble on stocks (though I guess I do speculate)

By the way, great thread.
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Anyone in BA and/or SPR?

been buying and selling those since mid march with pretty good success.....if i get stuck with either of those, i don't mind going long....
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I'm interested in for long term:

SPOT: I think they are continuing to dominate and gain market share. Look at the moves to get joe Rogan, xfinity app, other moves. Just think they are a great hold. Bit expensive though...

LULU: I love lululemon. Thought about buying them a few years ago when they were at $75, kicking myself. Personally, I think more men need to buy a pair of their 9 inch shorts with built in liners and you'll see why they have such a cult following of wearers. So comfortable and just need to expand into the male market.

MSFT: they are a buy and hold forever. Only getting more valuable. I'd buy them if it ever gets back down to $175.


Other stocks I am holding long term:

LUV: best financials out of airlines. Focus on domestic means they will be primed once Covid blows over.

ROKU: y'all saw 59s comments. Same

JPM: they are the best bank out there. Strongest balance sheet.

BAC: they are another decent bank. I like their cheaper stock price, strong CEO and leadership.

KMI: been arguing with my dad about KMI being better then BP because KMI has a stronger balance sheet. BP seems to be similar to shell in terms of write offs because oil getting crushed. Just feels like a safer long term dividend play.

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From a medium to long position, I think all the major airlines are a good buy here
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I think ZM and FSLY are going to continue their up trend until Q2 earnings reports, especially with states like Texas and Florida having the spikes they've seen. Their revenues are going to be bigly, IMO. Then I think both will be due for a pullback and reset. I don't hold either, but I think the most sustainable of the two is FSLY. They get the SHOP kiss (who ultimately gets the FB kiss from their recent deal announcement). ZM does and will have big competition (namely GOOGL/MSFT/FB).
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How many positions do y'all generally have At a time? Does it change often? How do you determine what % of your portfolio is in each position?

I've been watching 20 or so names for a while now and have analysis paralysis I feel like.

Also, how do you add to your positions on a biweekly/monthly basis as your paychecks come in? Appreciate y'all's insight. This is a great thread.
Bob Knights Paper Hands
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I think STAG is one of the industrial-heavy REITs. If you believe in the growth from AMZN and other home delivery companies, they will continue to need more and more industrial space for their distribution networks. I think these will all take off. Many are selling at a discount since all REITs were beaten up and as earnings continue I think they will jump.

DRE is my favorite industrial REIT. An Aggie that used to post here that's in industrial real-estate suggested this one. AMZN is their largest client.
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DRE has my attention and some of my cash
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59 South said:

Ubitag said:

Wkhs is on a tear op
No kidding. I hope I didn't miss it. These small caps are harder to read on the technicals. That said, I like it when it cools off and gives us a 50% retracement (OA's Model T). If today was a blowoff top, that's about $5 (halfway between 2.50 ish and 7.50 ish). So anything under $5 may be a good entry especially if it goes down and touches the 21 day EMA.


Thanks for the tip....up big today
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hutch012 said:

How many positions do y'all generally have At a time? Does it change often? How do you determine what % of your portfolio is in each position?

I've been watching 20 or so names for a while now and have analysis paralysis I feel like.

Also, how do you add to your positions on a biweekly/monthly basis as your paychecks come in? Appreciate y'all's insight. This is a great thread.

I may be an outlier here. For my personal account, well over 100 positions. Maybe 25% long term (5-10 yrs) and 40% medium term. Swing trades maybe 30% with a too small number of those short at any time. Rest are day trades and small futures positions (1-5 days and equally long/short). Way too many positions to trade optimally but enjoy the diversification since focus is limited and I trade energy commodities for a living. I actually started reducing this number last week actually and plan to continue.
On risk, I limit single positions (excluding the indices) to more than 7% of my portfolio with most between 1 and 4%. I also buy downside protection and sell upside vol when high to help finance. I generally don't add to my accounts anymore, actually withdrawing at regular intervals for cash flow and taxes. I try to diversify in real estate with new cash rather than making reit investments.
I am intrigued with the idea of concentration and would love to get my swing trading down to 10-15 names but the risk manager in me makes this difficult.
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So we uhhhh, increasing our longterm positions a bit today?
Rice and Fries
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WGann3 said:

So we uhhhh, increasing our longterm positions a bit today?
Negative. Keep the cash if you can.
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WGann3 said:

So we uhhhh, increasing our longterm positions a bit today?
I got in UVXY, SPXS, and SQQQ and doubled my shares of DRIP at opening and have made a nice return today. Will debate on holding it for a few days or making it a day trade depending on what levels we hit by lunch.

It feels like we are starting to make lower highs and lower lows, so a sell off trend feels like it's starting to take shape short term.

I sold out of most shares of CCL this morning (see page 1) and will wait until it goes lower to get more.
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Absolutely. Increased positions on DIS and LUV today.

Sure, it's gonna be a bit longer term, but these purchases are going to look great in 2021.
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Gonna grab some more LUV when it gets in 20s to mid 20s which I think is coming.
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Currently holding 100 shares @ avg cost of 29.24.

I think I'm about where I want to be, unless it actually hits the mid to low 20's again. Might grab another 25 shares if so.
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hutch012 said:

How many positions do y'all generally have At a time? Does it change often? How do you determine what % of your portfolio is in each position?

I've been watching 20 or so names for a while now and have analysis paralysis I feel like.

Also, how do you add to your positions on a biweekly/monthly basis as your paychecks come in? Appreciate y'all's insight. This is a great thread.
I generally hold between 10-15 individual stocks which make up around 20% of my market portfolio. So I view this as my higher risk and (hopefully) higher return bucket that I can have a little fun with. Also, I generally take a 6-9 month+ view based on a perceived trend or value, so don't get too worked up about ultra short-term movement if I don't catch the entry just right. That mentality takes away some of the paralysis by analysis.

I don't really know much about technical analysis like the cats on the main Stock Thread. I also don't trade options (although I've been learning and plan to at some point). But I do have a background in finance and economics which is why swing/trend trading appeals to me. So I just try to find good names in the sectors I think have a good outlook and go with it.
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WGann3 said:

So we uhhhh, increasing our longterm positions a bit today?
Bought some more SYF and C today.

When stocks are cheap, I buy some more.
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Rough day. I'm just going to keep everything where it is and fight the temptation to sell what I have left at a loss. Got to remind myself daily these are long term (5-10 year) holds. I've honestly been thinking about deleting the app and trying to forget about it!
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Today is not surprising or concerning to me at all. That could obviously change if SPX 3000 is lost and not gained back. If 3000 is lost, then 2800-2850 would probably come soon. Still not really a big deal for longer term holds.

None of my long major holdings have lost critical levels or even 8 day EMAs (couple are right on it) let alone 21 day EMA. This could easily be a shakeout day or a signal for a bigger sell off. Nobody knows for certain.

On AMD, wouldn't be too concerned unless 52 is lost and then really 50. I'd probably double down at 50 and then be ready to sell for a $2-4 gain quick on those shares to lower my $54 entry a bit. Down around $49 I'd probably take the loss and look to enter back $40-45 area for 200 day EMA support test.

Sometimes this is easy and sometimes it is not. More of the latter right now.


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I just sold my SPY Put position. We should see the bottom of the market fall out at any minute now.
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Guess I should've caved on the WKHS FOMO a couple of days ago. Wow. Still would look for a pull back to around 5 or under in the next couple of weeks.

ETA it just had to kiss 10 didn't it? I suspect that's it and it will come back to $5-6 or so. One great thing about it is that it has options. How great would it have been to buy a couple days ago around $6 and then sell $5 or $7.50 covered calls when it hit $10 a bit ago making your cost basis $1 or $3.50 while locking in massive gains of nearly 70% in a couple days.
59 South
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george1992 said:

I just sold my SPY Put position. We should see the bottom of the market fall out at any minute now.


Oh NO George! George?!?
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59 South said:

Today is not surprising or concerning to me at all. That could obviously change if SPX 3000 is lost and not gained back. If 3000 is lost, then 2800-2850 would probably come soon. Still not really a big deal for longer term holds.

None of my long major holdings have lost critical levels or even 8 day EMAs (couple are right on it) let alone 21 day EMA. This could easily be a shakeout day or a signal for a bigger sell off. Nobody knows for certain.

On AMD, wouldn't be too concerned unless 52 is lost and then really 50. I'd probably double down at 50 and then be ready to sell for a $2-4 gain quick on those shares to lower my $54 entry a bit. Down around $49 I'd probably take the loss and look to enter back $40-45 area for 200 day EMA support test.

Sometimes this is easy and sometimes it is not. More of the latter right now.



I am glad that people have been raking in the money on AMD. They quit using wheelbarrows and starting using dump trucks to haul all of the money home.

I just do not understand their financials at all.



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Carlo4 said:

WGann3 said:

So we uhhhh, increasing our longterm positions a bit today?
I got in UVXY, SPXS, and SQQQ and doubled my shares of DRIP at opening and have made a nice return today. Will debate on holding it for a few days or making it a day trade depending on what levels we hit by lunch.

It feels like we are starting to make lower highs and lower lows, so a sell off trend feels like it's starting to take shape short term.

I sold out of most shares of CCL this morning (see page 1) and will wait until it goes lower to get more.
Sold out of everything and took profits except for DRIP. I'll let that swing trade ride. Going to buy a few shares to get a long position with WYNN at closing. It's dropped 33% in two weeks. Looks like it has support between here and $70. After that, look out below to the 40s again.

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Carlo4 said:

Carlo4 said:

WGann3 said:

So we uhhhh, increasing our longterm positions a bit today?
I got in UVXY, SPXS, and SQQQ and doubled my shares of DRIP at opening and have made a nice return today. Will debate on holding it for a few days or making it a day trade depending on what levels we hit by lunch.

It feels like we are starting to make lower highs and lower lows, so a sell off trend feels like it's starting to take shape short term.

I sold out of most shares of CCL this morning (see page 1) and will wait until it goes lower to get more.
Sold out of everything and took profits except for DRIP. I'll let that swing trade ride. Going to buy a few shares to get a long position with WYNN at closing. It's dropped 33% in two weeks. Looks like it has support between here and $70. After that, look out below to the 40s again.


Man, I almost bought WYNN when it was below $50 for a long term hold, but didn't. Dumb. Been waiting on a pullback ever since and this is likely it. I think it's a 1-2 year hold, but could double up from here over that time frame if it just gets back to its January high.

LVS (Las Vegas Sands) is another I like. Has stronger financials in comparison and down 20%+ over last couple weeks, but might not have quite the recovery upside as WYNN.

I held everything I have today and usually do so on days like this. Looking for some like those above that I may have missed out on initially. LUV is another.

DRIP is interesting. I've stayed away from energy but think it might be time to start looking for some value.

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Speaking of casinos, it is from my understanding that MGM is most def in the process of finalizing a sale of the Mirage to Phil Ruffin (owner of Circus Circus and Treasure Island).
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Lots of critical things going on macro wise. It would probably be best for the bull case to see a big gap down and test of SPY 297-300 again with a big bounce back to 307-308+. We're so close, best to just get it out of the way. This flat or up open with steady all day sell off action usually does not end well for the bulls.

These next couple of days into next week should be telling. Does SPY hold or lose 300 or the 200 EMA? Does the 8 EMA cross below the 21? That's a big momentum indicator. The crossover up was April 9, and this is the closest it has been to crossing back down since.

A couple of days closing below the 21 can be overcome, but 3+ days means the bears have taken control and usually means continuation to the downside to test the next levels like 285.
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Here's my list of 'loosely' follows that I would consider investing in at some point. I tend to like the so called leaders of sectors that are set up to outperform instead of going the sector ETF route which has burned me in the past (limited upside while still being volatile to the downside).

I welcome any insight into these since I haven't done deep dives into many of them:

Financials: JPM, V, MA, PYPL, SQ (only one I own or have owned). Outside of JPM, the other banks make me nervous long term while the payment companies seem less risky.

Metals: GOLD (leading miner with more upside imo than ETF GDX). I like this as a potential hedge in case the USD weakens substantially since I get paid in USD and spend GBP. I could easily see GBP/USD going from 1.25 to 1.40+ but could also see a case where the USD weakens and the GBP weakens right along with it given the state of affairs in the UK with Brexit, etc.

Travel/tourism: LUV, MTN, DIS. These could get annihilated (again) with a 2nd Covid wave and would be slam dunk buys. I don't like the risk/reward right now though.

Bonds: Ugh I can't believe I would even consider bonds, but I do watch TLT and probably need to consider as I get older and need more diversification.

Tech: MSFT, SPOT, DOCU, ADBE

Names to diversify from Tech: SUM, DE, CAT

Macro ETFs: SPY/IVV, QQQ, IWM. I really like the idea of core money and inflows going into a blend of these 3. Maybe 50-60/30-40/10 SPY/QQQ/IWM with periodic rebalancing. I'm really curious if anyone else does something like this? I like these especially because they have liquid options to sell covered calls and/or hedge with puts.




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Agree that DIS may be about to take a plunge with the second wave of the virus hitting. Same for ERI/MGM types.

I haven't gotten into options, so no calls/puts but sometimes will do a short term buy of sh/psq.

 
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