Just a note but the new M1 Macs (new Apple chip) are blazing quick, the 13" laptops and Mac mini have ben released so far. Not all apps are running on them natively yet, however.
Stock Markets - Swing and Longer Term Trades
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Colt98 said:
Man I've got very efficient trading from tos app on my phone Almost make 100% trades of my phone. Of course I am rarely at a computer during the day and pull over on the side of the road a bunch to make trades when alerts hit. Even when I am sitting at computer I'll have tos on computer and then make trade from phone.
Same here, I use the desktop app, but do all trades from my phone. I wouldn't even know how to enter an order on the desktop, lol.
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Think or swim desktop let's you set up trades that trigger other orders. So you don't even have to monitor positions if you know your entry and exit criteria going into the trade.
Example, a buy order placed and fill, it then can trigger two sell orders, one at a low, and at a high price, then if either one hits the other is canceled. So you could actually set up all of your orders, including net free targets and just walk away when placing the opening order.
Example, a buy order placed and fill, it then can trigger two sell orders, one at a low, and at a high price, then if either one hits the other is canceled. So you could actually set up all of your orders, including net free targets and just walk away when placing the opening order.
OEG
Monday penny stock pump and dump target: HCMC. Getting a lot of attention on its message board for a stock at .0008
Up to. 0019.
Aston04 said:
Up to. 0019.
We are on our way!
Thoughts on GOOG for long term hold? The Ford news today seems huge.
Aston04 said:
Monday penny stock pump and dump target: HCMC. Getting a lot of attention on its message board for a stock at .0008
Filled an order for 500,000 today then it appears to have halted several times. Also a lot of auto rejected buy orders. It was an odd one for sure.
Workhorse is running againUbitag said:
Workhorse is a workhorse!
I'm in them, AAPL, and AMZN for the long haul.Brian Earl Spilner said:
Thoughts on GOOG for long term hold? The Ford news today seems huge.
Wish I'd bought more when I got in around 700.
Brian Earl Spilner said:
Thoughts on GOOG for long term hold? The Ford news today seems huge.
I mentioned GOOG here a few weeks ago as being potentially undervalued relative to other large tech names. I think it's pretty good stock to be long, but I don't own any.
Some people believe Google will be broken up or regulated.
agdaddy04 said:Aston04 said:
Monday penny stock pump and dump target: HCMC. Getting a lot of attention on its message board for a stock at .0008
Filled an order for 500,000 today then it appears to have halted several times. Also a lot of auto rejected buy orders. It was an odd one for sure.
Is it too late to jump in?
It's been very stagnant since the initial rise. I probably wouldn't recommend it unless it's just money you don't care about like I put in. Still trying to figure out how Yahoo has a 1 year $6.00 target on it.
$VRM
Put it on your watchlist. I still need to research the fundamentals some more, but initial thesis is good. So is price action.
Don't have a ton of free time these days so please post if you know anything much about it.
Put it on your watchlist. I still need to research the fundamentals some more, but initial thesis is good. So is price action.
Don't have a ton of free time these days so please post if you know anything much about it.
59 South said:
$VRM
Put it on your watchlist. I still need to research the fundamentals some more, but initial thesis is good. So is price action.
Don't have a ton of free time these days so please post if you know anything much about it.
What are your thoughts on the profitably at 200,000 cars? That's what they said they needed to reach. They also are burning cash and it is increasing and I think they are at 20,000-30,000 cars?
Bump. Have to keep on pg 1.
This Office REIT ($FSP - Franklin Street Properties) popped up on my radar the other day and I took a small position. Feel free to poke holes but here is my thesis.
Thoughts?
- First things first, yes it's an office REIT. You have to believe demand for office will continue/come back.
- As of 9.30.20 TBV was $737.5MM ($6.87/sh) stock is currently trading at $4.34/sh ($465.8MM market cap). 52-week high is 8.24.
- In total, the REIT owns 32 properties totaling 9,526,822 SF. Based on TBV that's a value of $77/SF, on average, per property. That's an extremely attractive basis, even if the buildings end up to be half leased. See below.
- T3 NOI for the portfolio has been pretty steady throughout 2020. If I annualize T9 NOI ($128.4MM) and apply a conservative cap rate of 7.0% I get a value for the portfolio of $1.8Bn ($192/SF) less debt I get $839MM ($88/SF). This makes me feel good about the tangible book value above. Properties of this caliber should have no problem fetching those prices (in a normal environment). NOI could decrease ~45% and breakeven in the event of liquidation.
- The REIT has some development/land assets not included in the calc above.
- As of 9.30.20, the portfolio is 80% occupied. Not ideal, but most of the portfolio appears to be located in business friendly states across, NC, TX, CO, GA, NC, VA, MO, MN, and IL. If office is gonna struggle its gonna be in higher cost metros such as NY & CA. This portfolio is catering to value conscious tenants and consists of Class B+/A- properties.
- Although some tenants have requested rent concessions, as of 10/31/20 the REIT had collected 98% of rents due in October. This is a good sign as it shows the tenancy is able to and continues to pay rent even during COVID.
- Finally, there's been $1MM+ of Insider Buying in the past 6-months in the low $4/sh.
- Institutional capital has also increased their positions recently, notably Blackrock reported an increase of 518,671 shares at 2.5.21
Thoughts?
Anybody home? Is everyone day-trading?
The frequency of posts is similar to the frequency of trades. Only makes since.
This is the looooooooonngggg term trade board. TIME TO BUY!
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Thinking about Buffet rotating some money out of AAPL to Chevron. He generally likes to target certain industries that he thinks have value by investing in what he thinks is the best company in that industry. Other than the thought of chase Buffet money and buy into Chevron, this makes me think he is expecting recovery to drive rotation back into beaten up industries. Other than oil, I think hotels, casinos, restaurants, and airlines. Following the buffet model, I'm going to start compiling a list of the top 1-3 companies in each of these industries and then look for the industries that were the most beaten down and invest in shares or at the money LEAPs. It will be an interesting exercise if nothing else.
Bob Knights Liver said:
Thinking about Buffet rotating some money out of AAPL to Chevron. He generally likes to target certain industries that he thinks have value by investing in what he thinks is the best company in that industry. Other than the thought of chase Buffet money and buy into Chevron, this makes me think he is expecting recovery to drive rotation back into beaten up industries. Other than oil, I think hotels, casinos, restaurants, and airlines. Following the buffet model, I'm going to start compiling a list of the top 1-3 companies in each of these industries and then look for the industries that were the most beaten down and invest in shares or at the money LEAPs. It will be an interesting exercise if nothing else.
My parents rotated a large amount into VPU at the beginning of the year, vanguard utility index, it was beaten down with the covid market sell off and was paying a 3-4% dividend. Hadn't recovered as rapidly as everything else. And it was a way to reduce exposure to tech and large cap growth which have exploded recently. VPU was up today while other sectors were down, it's nice that it's price action doesn't have a strong correlation with tech which seem to dominate market behavior today.
XOM has performed since Election Day. Gap up after Biden was elected and going up since. I think the higher oil prices may be good for some oil companies. I seriously considered picking some up a few weeks ago it was up to a 7% dividend but decided not to without more research.
Thoughts on PYPL over then next months/years? Sitting on substantial gain in an IRA and debating whether there is a better place for part of it.
I really appreciate this thread and hope it keeps going. I'm a buy and hold person and try to glean good info from the other thread but it's hard knowing that it's a trading thread.
FishrCoAg said:
Thoughts on PYPL over then next months/years? Sitting on substantial gain in an IRA and debating whether there is a better place for part of it.
I'm long PayPal. It's up 50% since I got in a few weeks ago. I like their revenue growth history, they haven't been public for that long either, so I think their price has room to run. Just keep up on the quarterly earnings.
Share price growth is strongly correlated to revenue growth for most stocks. If earnings and growth starts to slow, then may be time to consider exiting. They seem to be making aggressive moves for growth, adding crypto, buying Venmo, so I'm optimistic.
I'm somewhere in between trading and buy and hold. Active investing maybe? I use options usually by selling premium both ways to juice my accumulation of shares and mitigate risk. Once I get a stock the way I want it (not necessarily net free like the other thread discusses ad nauseam), I let it sit and do its thing with more passive management.
Here are my current holdings (in general order of size). Haven't done much selling in a while riding this crazy market momentum:
NIO
ROKU
--------
*CWH
*FUBO
*WWR
SQ
AMD
AMZN
JD
--------
*TRIT
MBIO
*actively trading & selling premium to position myself for longer term holding. CWH/FUBO/WWR I have more shares right now than I want to own long term is basically what I mean. Dividing lines are big gaps in present total value.
I do need to sell some NIO and ROKU to rebalance. I'm thinking PLTR...
Here are my current holdings (in general order of size). Haven't done much selling in a while riding this crazy market momentum:
NIO
ROKU
--------
*CWH
*FUBO
*WWR
SQ
AMD
AMZN
JD
--------
*TRIT
MBIO
*actively trading & selling premium to position myself for longer term holding. CWH/FUBO/WWR I have more shares right now than I want to own long term is basically what I mean. Dividing lines are big gaps in present total value.
I do need to sell some NIO and ROKU to rebalance. I'm thinking PLTR...
Do yall think NIO is still a good long term buy? Really mad at myself for not jumping in when I first considered it a year or so ago. I'm heavy in JD, which has been great for me...but have always been a little nervous about having too much $ invested in Chinese corps.
I'm heavy in SQ as when I got in PYPL was already up there a bit, but IMO any of the digital payment stocks are great long term holds.FishrCoAg said:
Thoughts on PYPL over then next months/years? Sitting on substantial gain in an IRA and debating whether there is a better place for part of it.
I still do, or I'd have sold a bunch already. It's crazy, but their upside is still big. There is A LOT of smart money it it now. I've read and studied on it a ton the past year or two and tend to agree.MAS444 said:
Do yall think NIO is still a good long term buy? Really mad at myself for not jumping in when I first considered it a year or so ago. I'm heavy in JD, which has been great for me...but have always been a little nervous about having too much $ invested in Chinese corps.
I also follow a lot of successful investors who share their thoughts. One example is Jonah Lupton. He only trades/invests in smaller caps with high growth and usually moves on. He was just saying recently that NIO is the biggest company he owns and hasn't sold from massive gains because he still thinks it goes 5x from here in the next few years. This is a proven investor with over half a million twitter followers saying that.
I've read about another thesis that the business model is similar to AAPL in that they want to be THE brand of PRC. That's what they're going for (NIO houses, NIO stations, NIO lifestyle)...I've seen speculation that they could be a $1 trillion company in 5-10 years. That would be 12x from here >$600.
The other tail winds are being backed by the PRC (they're not going to let them fail) and a growth plan that spans well outside of just EVs.... battery swap for example.
I felt the same about China. I lowered that risk by selling 60% of my JD around $70 which was over a double. So there's no way I can lose money trading JD now.. Guess I should have waited for $100...
Thanks for the responses on PYPL
Man - really, really appreciate the detailed response!
I have a counter perspective on NIO. I think all EV stocks are in a bubble, so I'm avoiding them. EVs priced as if they are larger than established OEMs who are all transitioning to electric.
I know they are hot right now, but my long term outlook the bubble risk is too high for my liking. For a short term hold, sure maybe.
It was like a year or two ago there were 400 new EV startups. There is just no way that isn't a bubble market. And the EV market caps have been inflated such that if you combine all of their market caps, they'd have to produce more EVs than cars on earth.
I know they are hot right now, but my long term outlook the bubble risk is too high for my liking. For a short term hold, sure maybe.
It was like a year or two ago there were 400 new EV startups. There is just no way that isn't a bubble market. And the EV market caps have been inflated such that if you combine all of their market caps, they'd have to produce more EVs than cars on earth.
Great points, and I do agree that is the risk at hand. If the story changes or the bubble appears to be bursting, I'll have a quick finger on the sell button. But I love a good bubble, and they can make you wealthy if played correctly. I personally have a ton of wiggle room having an average cost around $5. I'm also in a position to have a huge risk tolerance right now so lots of factors to be considered...
Prices on electric car companies dipped a bit a while back when an influential Japanese higher up pointed out that they didn't have the electric grid infrastructure to support a ton of electric vehicles. We don't either methinks.
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