Traditions fairway update?

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dcrewint said:

If not then most likely Miramont. A&M range shut down and I don't ever see them at Pebble.


Didn't they screw Don back in the day when Traditions was being built or is that just an urban legend?
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DonHenley said:

Wow. Embarrassing for all involved in that operation.


Yeah if I was a member I'd be pretty fed up by now.
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DonHenley said:

Wow. Embarrassing for all involved in that operation.


The grass company was/is responsible for a successful result. They are the "installers"

Its on them to get it right and even though behind schedule, they're getting it done ……. Extra cost out of the growers pocket.

Yes it's frustrating for members but the end result will hopefully help us forget quickly.

I'm hearing Late Fall '24 for full opening

Edited Date. Im calendar illiterate
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Traditions18
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I was in the pro shop today and they're still claiming full course opens late Nov. and some of the par 3 opens mid month
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SPI-FlatsCatter 84 said:

DonHenley said:

Wow. Embarrassing for all involved in that operation.


The grass company was/is responsible for a successful result. They are the "installers"

Its on them to get it right and even though behind schedule, they're getting it done ……. Extra cost out of the growers pocket.

Yes it's frustrating for members but the end result will hopefully help us forget quickly.

I'm thinking Spring '25 for full opening
I wonder if they 'signed off and accepted' the soil conditions prior to the install. They'd be fools not to have that clause.
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I've heard sod company is eating the cost to redo everything that was messed up. No way it's done by November.
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Quote:

The grass company was/is responsible for a successful result. They are the "installers"


Not true. Typically, the responsibility falls to the golf course as soon as the sprinklers are turned on following the installation. With sprigs, this happens within minutes.
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Funky Winkerbean said:

Quote:

The grass company was/is responsible for a successful result. They are the "installers"


Not true. Typically, the responsibility falls to the golf course as soon as the sprinklers are turned on following the installation. With sprigs, this happens within minutes.
That's what I heard as well.
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The project is way behind original schedule, including the Par 3 option. Mgmt is only giving vague updates. Most folk here feels like it will be well into 2025 before the Course re-opens for regular play.
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Traditions18 said:

I was in the pro shop today and they're still claiming full course opens late Nov. and some of the par 3 opens mid month


This feels like "tell 'em the original schedule until we have a better plan/timeline/official communication for what is really going to happen"
Traditions18
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Lol you're probably not wrong
JR Ewingford
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How does all of this even happen?? I'd think a lot of superintendents studied at A&M but what do I know. Should have top notch conditions.
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If the grass installers screwed up, it would have been obvious in the first month. I think Traditions is going to take this hickey.
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Its def. on the team at Traditions taking care of the grass, not the installer.
Diego
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Texas A&M is amazing at growing grass. Just see Kyle Field, Olsen Field, Ellis Field, etc. Damn near perfect.

Traditions doesn't seem to have leveraged Texas A&M's expertise.
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Listening to this thread makes me very happy to no longer be a superintendent. It will be great in the long term. Very few if any projects are perfect and on time. Let it grow, play it when it's ready.
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I just can't help but think that the heat and the amount of reclaimed water used over the years has had a toxic effect. Cimarron Hills and Berry Creek here in Georgetown have both had issues even after replanting significant areas and greens. The subdivision courses seem to be the most adversely affected
jja79
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Wasn't it built without a sand cap? I was a member for a long time before moving to Arizona and love the layout. Haven't been back in 2 years and hate to hear this.
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Diego said:

Texas A&M is amazing at growing grass. Just see Kyle Field, Olsen Field, Ellis Field, etc. Damn near perfect.

Traditions doesn't seem to have leveraged Texas A&M's expertise.
id imagine the budget allowed to manicure grass is vastly different between traditions and Aggie athletics
jja79
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What's the cost to the reputation and lost revenue? If it's as it seems I can't imagine selling many memberships.
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Traditions is our single biggest recruiting issue in golf. Practice facility is great and all, but it's been a long time (if ever) since that course has been anywhere close to good compared to the schools we recruit against.

I left pre-Tanner when the super just wouldn't stop flooding the course with water or maintain a bunker. He's doing his best, but it's sure feels like an uphill battle to ever get that place where it should be.
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When Tanner got there he just shut the water off. I've never heard more compliments and praises about the course from members after that. You'd lose balls in the fairway out there regularly.
jja79
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This is what I've been wondering. Recruiting has to take a hit.
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jja79 said:

What's the cost to the reputation and lost revenue? If it's as it seems I can't imagine selling many memberships.
Renovations are normal in country club settings. The first attempt they used sprigs and they take 2-3 months to mature when it goes correctly. The sprigging failed and now they are sodding the fairways to still try and meet the promised date of completion.
jja79
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I understand that. When the new course was built at Houston Oaks they arranged for us to have playing privileges Sandhill Farms. Have they arranged playing privileges elsewhere?
Funky Winkerbean
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Idk..
gestapoparrot
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what facility in BCS has practice facilities for elite level players? Miramont? I haven't been there in quite a few years so honestly don't know but I've played on OU, Arkansas, SC, Alabama and Auburn practice facilities this year and I'd have a hard time putting anywhere in BCS on that level.
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I'm pretty sure they've arranged some sort of privileges at Pebble Creek.
KaneIsAble
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aggietony2010 said:

I'm pretty sure they've arranged some sort of privileges at Pebble Creek.


And a course in Waco if I remember correctly; that was very strange to read.

Buddies of mine at Pebble have a hard time getting tee times so I've never even tried yet.
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jja79 said:

I understand that. When the new course was built at Houston Oaks they arranged for us to have playing privileges Sandhill Farms. Have they arranged playing privileges elsewhere?


Ive been reading your posts for years and appreciate them but that statement is like comparing Mars to the moon.


I'd like to say this is somewhat disingenuous; but it's way past that. I have the luxury of playing there a lot and the money between the 2 clubs isn't even close. Hell, the bunker makes more money than the course but you don't hear that said out loud. I was told the Jr membership is basically done. 3 years ago it was $35k and moved to $90k and essentially doesn't exist anymore. Normal full membership is about don't too and only the $300k is what is left.


College Station can't fund that so stop comparing.


jja79
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Wasn't comparing at all. I asked if they had any reciprocal arrangements. I was a member at both when living in Texas and fully understand they're not equivalent.
KaneIsAble
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Then why did you compare? Giving a circumstance and asking a question is exactly that.
jja79
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I asked a question and gave an example of a similar situation. Wasn't comparing.

I hope they get it resolved soon because it's a great property with really great people too.
rocketman1806
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I know they have practiced at Houston Oaks before
DannyDuberstein
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I was curious about the same thing as jja. Long time to lose access and BCS isn't exactly loaded with alternative options.
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