Buckyball question

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Forgive me if this is a stupid question, I don't follow basketball anywhere near as close as football or baseball. However I remember hearing, either here or on a A&M broadcast, that some of Bucky's success was likely from him being a first year coach in the SEC. They said that teams and coaches have not yet adapted to his style of play, and this is a big reason for A&M winning. Once he's been in the conference for a couple of years, the success of his style of coaching will start to go down. They compared it to Nate Oats' first season in the SEC where (I'm not completely sure about this, I don't follow basketball) he had the most success. I'm curious what yall think about this? Is this the best year for Buckyball to be good, or will it get better as the years go on.
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Only time will tell. Keep in mind the talent he has is also like to grow as well.
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They're going to adjust but we're also going to have better players.
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The style is pretty unique so I don't know that it's something you adapt to. We run like crazy and play a ton of guys. We also have so many threats there's no way to guard them all.
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Meh - think this style is always tough to prep for due to the intensity and focus level it requires from the opposition for 40 minutes.

Oats' best year was his 2nd, but it was due to the roster. He's been really good overall, don't think he has been figured out.
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I feel like our roster improvements will stay ahead of any meaningful adjustments.

It's mind boggling what Bucky and our NIL boosters have done with a last minute roster.
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The commentators referred to it as a lot of unscripted basketball which sounds like we improvise a bunch. Won't say that can't be defended, but it s surprising SEC teams a bit.
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Maybe for the first 10 games, but there's no excuse now. Ags have played over 20 games. Everyone knows what they bring to the table and who they got doing it.

Georgia knew exactly what the Ags bring to the table and couldn't stop it.
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We have some crafty prayers for sure. It shows up in those extended sequences. Agee, Hill, Isaacs, Dominguez, even Dibba all have that basketball IQ to stay in it when things are way off script
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All teams gotta do is score 90 or so points. It's so simple even a nepo hire from Auburn could understand.
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Meanwhile in Maryland……bwahhhhh
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People thought defenses would adjust to Mike Leach for like 20 years.
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It's a chance we're willing to take
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This is the worst team Bucky is going to have in terms of talent. We are going to be a top 10 team in the years to come.
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I compare Buckyball to 40 minutes of hell with Rollin with Nolan. Nothing new under the sun. How many remember those Razorback teams?
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The Marksman said:

This is the worst team Bucky is going to have in terms of talent. We are going to be a top 10 team in the years to come.

Yeah. I'm not sure anymore. There are some studs on this team.
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Shooters. Better shooters who get in a rhythm
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Nate Oates' first year was not his best, it was his worst. And since then, Sweet Sixteen, made the tourney, Sweet Sixteen, Final Four, Elite Eight, this year...

He's had a mostly upward trajectory from year one, not the other way around.
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CapCityAg89 said:

The Marksman said:

This is the worst team Bucky is going to have in terms of talent. We are going to be a top 10 team in the years to come.

Yeah. I'm not sure anymore. There are some studs on this team.

Oh I'm very sure he's going to start pulling 5 stars and future NBA players. They will want to play in this system for him.
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aa4136 said:

Only time will tell. Keep in mind the talent he has is also like to grow as well.

I think we put together a pretty talented team - maybe more experienced then talented, and I'm not sure which is more important in college ball and the postseason
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19 of 20 FT's. On the Road today.
Bucky has an eye for Talent.

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Nate Oates was 16-15 in his first year at Bama. No matter how many years Bucky coaches, you can't "get used to" his style of play. It's too unique and you cant spend weeks and weeks practicing against it.

If Bucky can continue to elevate the level of talent on our roster, he's going to win a crapload of games.
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I remember 40 mins of hell. It was fun and so is this.
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AGDAD14 said:

I compare Buckyball to 40 minutes of hell with Rollin with Nolan. Nothing new under the sun. How many remember those Razorback teams?


I'm an Arkansan and grew up in the Nolan era. I went to a ton of Pig games at Ole Miss (I'm from south of Memphis) and SWC tournaments at Reunion Arena. It was always great watching his teams. This feels very similar. It especially will once our talent improves. Just need Bucky to wear cowboy boots like Nolan!

But….if things start to go awry, let's hope we don't have bitter fans that go shoot his horses like Pig fans did to Nolan.
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TheDecadeSapling said:

The style is pretty unique so I don't know that it's something you adapt to. We run like crazy and play a ton of guys. We also have so many threats there's no way to guard them all.


People keep saying it is unique. I sure wish someone would explain what is unique about it.
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It's not unique, but it's rare. If you can find Malcolm Gladwell's article "How David Beats Goliath", there's a good description of why it works and why it's unusual.

Key quote: "It is easier to retreat and compose yourself after every score than swarm about, arms flailing [in a full-court press]. We tell ourselves that skill is the precious resource and effort is the commodity. It's the other way around. Effort can trump ability . . . because relentless effort is in fact something rarer than the ability to engage in some finely tuned act of motor coordination."

That's why you don't see this style everywhere.
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Bluecat_Aggie94 said:

TheDecadeSapling said:

The style is pretty unique so I don't know that it's something you adapt to. We run like crazy and play a ton of guys. We also have so many threats there's no way to guard them all.


People keep saying it is unique. I sure wish someone would explain what is unique about it.

How many teams do you see that run a full court press all game and shoot as many 3s as we do? Seriously?
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Bluecat_Aggie94 said:

TheDecadeSapling said:

The style is pretty unique so I don't know that it's something you adapt to. We run like crazy and play a ton of guys. We also have so many threats there's no way to guard them all.


People keep saying it is unique. I sure wish someone would explain what is unique about it.


1. We press makes and misses all game. Multiple presses: m2m, zone, run and jump

2. Our full court offense is fast and we take a lot of 3s

3. Our half court defense is probably pretty standard, but we mix up zone and m2m a lot

4. Half court offense: in my mind, I've watched a lot of Alabama and their half court offense is dribble drive but ours has more off ball movement(didnt see it as much today), cutting, and reads. Harder to defend IMHO. Also, layups or 3s. Bucky plays percentages (threes are lower percentage, but worth more, layups get fouled and are higher percentage shots.

Some teams have done or do some of these things. Very few teams do all 4.
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TexasAGGIEinAR said:

AGDAD14 said:

I compare Buckyball to 40 minutes of hell with Rollin with Nolan. Nothing new under the sun. How many remember those Razorback teams?


I'm an Arkansan and grew up in the Nolan era. I went to a ton of Pig games at Ole Miss (I'm from south of Memphis) and SWC tournaments at Reunion Arena. It was always great watching his teams. This feels very similar. It especially will once our talent improves. Just need Bucky to wear cowboy boots like Nolan!

But….if things start to go awry, let's hope we don't have bitter fans that go shoot his horses like Pig fans did to Nolan.

Damn, I knew pig fans were rough but that's over the top. I still remember the Dallas Morning News sportswriter Blackie Sherrod's opening line in a SWC tourney article the year after Arky left for the SEC: "Now that shoes and teeth are back in fashion at Reunion Arena..."
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The Marksman said:

Bluecat_Aggie94 said:

TheDecadeSapling said:

The style is pretty unique so I don't know that it's something you adapt to. We run like crazy and play a ton of guys. We also have so many threats there's no way to guard them all.


People keep saying it is unique. I sure wish someone would explain what is unique about it.

How many teams do you see that run a full court press all game and shoot as many 3s as we do? Seriously?

Pressing in general is not unique. Pressing all the time is a little unique.

If your trying to make a case that "we shoot a lot of threes" is unique.. as my kids would say.. bruh
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It's a lot easier to post a double-double when your team is scoring 92 points per game. It's an attractive prospect for anyone with aspirations of getting drafted.
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Bluecat_Aggie94 said:

The Marksman said:

Bluecat_Aggie94 said:

TheDecadeSapling said:

The style is pretty unique so I don't know that it's something you adapt to. We run like crazy and play a ton of guys. We also have so many threats there's no way to guard them all.


People keep saying it is unique. I sure wish someone would explain what is unique about it.

How many teams do you see that run a full court press all game and shoot as many 3s as we do? Seriously?

Pressing in general is not unique. Pressing all the time is a little unique.

If your trying to make a case that "we shoot a lot of threes" is unique.. as my kids would say.. bruh


What teams do you think play like us? If you can't name one, or more than a couple, it's unique. I honestly can't name one.
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Bluecat_Aggie94 said:

The Marksman said:

Bluecat_Aggie94 said:

TheDecadeSapling said:

The style is pretty unique so I don't know that it's something you adapt to. We run like crazy and play a ton of guys. We also have so many threats there's no way to guard them all.


People keep saying it is unique. I sure wish someone would explain what is unique about it.

How many teams do you see that run a full court press all game and shoot as many 3s as we do? Seriously?

Pressing in general is not unique. Pressing all the time is a little unique.

If your trying to make a case that "we shoot a lot of threes" is unique.. as my kids would say.. bruh

You didn't answer my question... "bruh". How many teams do you see that run a full court press all game and shoot as many 3s as we do? There are very few, that's why our style is unique.
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You could have just explained what was different. No need to be a jerk about it.
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Are you on kindergarten or did you forget to switch usernames?
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