*****Aggies @ South Carolina - Saturday*****

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aginlakeway said:

Ok. Thanks. Gig 'em.

Gig' em!
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yell_on_6th st said:

snowdog90 said:

yell_on_6th st said:

Tobias Funke said:

yell_on_6th st said:

snowdog90 said:

Just a reminder, people *****ing about "wasting" Aschenbeck last night... do you guys have anything to say?

If it was me making those statements, I'd come back here and eat my deserved crow...

I ain't eating ****, why throw him in the 8th last night? I'll wait for your answer.


Because our future hall of fame coach thought that was the best move, that's why. I'll take that over the opinion of some crybaby yahoos on the internet 100% of the time.

No other pitchers out of the pen can protect a 7 run lead for one inning? Maybe get them some pt and confidence in a SEC road game? Can't simulate that in fall ball. Perfect set up. Dang, that's sad


It wasn't a 7-run lead and it wasn't 1 inning. It was bases loaded up 8-2 against a great hitter in the 7th. One swing could make it 8-6 with 2+ innings left. Worse, they could have rallied for 8 runs like Texas Southern did.

I'm going to type this slowly so you can understand.

It
Was
The
Eighth
Inning
That
Makes
Zero
Sense


Okay, gotcha. I can understand this and somewhat agree.

I think from Schloss' point of view, once Asch is loose and has thrown the 7th, one more inning is not very much more stress. Might as well use him for three more outs since it will not impede him from pitching again when needed.

I see your point, and I was also questioning if Asch should go in the 8th, but I think it has worked out okay so far. We'll see tomorrow if it bites us.

Hopefully the sticks explode tomorrow and we don't have to worry about it.
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TheBonifaceOption said:

Yall still arguing about Friday? We are 2-0 this weekend, on the road in the SEC...against a Top 25 opponent.

We have never trailed and the only time the lead was threatened, we brought in Ashe to end the inning cleanly.

We are 28-3. Anyone second-guessing Schlossnagle is a smoothbrain who better come loaded with their own coaching record in hand.
I'm undefeated! What do you need to know?
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Quote:

I'm going to type this slowly so you can understand.

It
Was
The
Eighth
Inning
That
Makes
Zero
Sense
I'll ask again. Do you really think that A-Beck pitching the 8th yesterday is going to make one iota of difference of whether Schloss will use him tomorrow or not?

I could be wrong but once we went to him we were only going to use him for one more game this weekend and it did not matter that he was sent back out.
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CapCityAg89 said:

BadMoonRisin said:

28-3


See. This right here is the problem. Not enough to complain about. No way to get unhappy about anything rational and Shelby was right yet again. So ***** about minutiae.
BRING OUT THE BROOMS!
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snowdog90 said:

yell_on_6th st said:

snowdog90 said:

yell_on_6th st said:

Tobias Funke said:

yell_on_6th st said:

snowdog90 said:

Just a reminder, people *****ing about "wasting" Aschenbeck last night... do you guys have anything to say?

If it was me making those statements, I'd come back here and eat my deserved crow...

I ain't eating ****, why throw him in the 8th last night? I'll wait for your answer.


Because our future hall of fame coach thought that was the best move, that's why. I'll take that over the opinion of some crybaby yahoos on the internet 100% of the time.

No other pitchers out of the pen can protect a 7 run lead for one inning? Maybe get them some pt and confidence in a SEC road game? Can't simulate that in fall ball. Perfect set up. Dang, that's sad


It wasn't a 7-run lead and it wasn't 1 inning. It was bases loaded up 8-2 against a great hitter in the 7th. One swing could make it 8-6 with 2+ innings left. Worse, they could have rallied for 8 runs like Texas Southern did.

I'm going to type this slowly so you can understand.

It
Was
The
Eighth
Inning
That
Makes
Zero
Sense


Okay, gotcha. I can understand this and somewhat agree.

I think from Schloss' point of view, once Asch is loose and has thrown the 7th, one more inning is not very much more stress. Might as well use him for three more outs since it will not impede him from pitching again when needed.

I see your point, and I was also questioning if Asch should go in the 8th, but I think it has worked out okay so far. We'll see tomorrow if it bites us.

Hopefully the sticks explode tomorrow and we don't have to worry about it.

Thank you for the coherent response. It has worked out this time, I'm looking for good coaching, play, decision making so we can maximize success.
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jkag89 said:

Quote:

I'm going to type this slowly so you can understand.

It
Was
The
Eighth
Inning
That
Makes
Zero
Sense
I'll ask again. Do you really think that A-Beck pitching the 8th yesterday is going to make one iota of difference of whether Schloss will use him tomorrow or not?

I could be wrong but once we went to him we were only going to use him for one more game this weekend and it did not matter that he was sent back out.

The mistake was two fold: more pitches on Asch's arm, and the apparent lack of confidence in any other pitcher to execute in a very manageable situation. (8th inning)
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yell_on_6th st said:

jkag89 said:

Quote:

I'm going to type this slowly so you can understand.

It
Was
The
Eighth
Inning
That
Makes
Zero
Sense
I'll ask again. Do you really think that A-Beck pitching the 8th yesterday is going to make one iota of difference of whether Schloss will use him tomorrow or not?

I could be wrong but once we went to him we were only going to use him for one more game this weekend and it did not matter that he was sent back out.

The mistake was two fold: more pitches on Asch's arm, and the apparent lack of confidence in any other pitcher to execute in a very manageable situation. (8th inning)
Answer my question please, don't dance around it.
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yell_on_6th st said:

snowdog90 said:

yell_on_6th st said:

snowdog90 said:

yell_on_6th st said:

Tobias Funke said:

yell_on_6th st said:

snowdog90 said:

Just a reminder, people *****ing about "wasting" Aschenbeck last night... do you guys have anything to say?

If it was me making those statements, I'd come back here and eat my deserved crow...

I ain't eating ****, why throw him in the 8th last night? I'll wait for your answer.


Because our future hall of fame coach thought that was the best move, that's why. I'll take that over the opinion of some crybaby yahoos on the internet 100% of the time.

No other pitchers out of the pen can protect a 7 run lead for one inning? Maybe get them some pt and confidence in a SEC road game? Can't simulate that in fall ball. Perfect set up. Dang, that's sad


It wasn't a 7-run lead and it wasn't 1 inning. It was bases loaded up 8-2 against a great hitter in the 7th. One swing could make it 8-6 with 2+ innings left. Worse, they could have rallied for 8 runs like Texas Southern did.

I'm going to type this slowly so you can understand.

It
Was
The
Eighth
Inning
That
Makes
Zero
Sense


Okay, gotcha. I can understand this and somewhat agree.

I think from Schloss' point of view, once Asch is loose and has thrown the 7th, one more inning is not very much more stress. Might as well use him for three more outs since it will not impede him from pitching again when needed.

I see your point, and I was also questioning if Asch should go in the 8th, but I think it has worked out okay so far. We'll see tomorrow if it bites us.

Hopefully the sticks explode tomorrow and we don't have to worry about it.

Thank you for the coherent response. It has worked out this time, I'm looking for good coaching, play, decision making so we can maximize success.


Me, too. This team is amazing. I'm curious to see if Asch could possibly go again tomorrow, or if Schloss would use him again.

As I said, hopefully we don't have to find out, but Asch is so efficient and doesn't seem to labor too much, so he might be able to go 3 days in a row for a few outs each day. Dude is already a legend, I wouldn't put anything past him.
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jkag89 said:

yell_on_6th st said:

jkag89 said:

Quote:

I'm going to type this slowly so you can understand.

It
Was
The
Eighth
Inning
That
Makes
Zero
Sense
I'll ask again. Do you really think that A-Beck pitching the 8th yesterday is going to make one iota of difference of whether Schloss will use him tomorrow or not?

I could be wrong but once we went to him we were only going to use him for one more game this weekend and it did not matter that he was sent back out.

The mistake was two fold: more pitches on Asch's arm, and the apparent lack of confidence in any other pitcher to execute in a very manageable situation. (8th inning)
Answer my question please, don't dance around it.

I didn't dance around ***** More pitches on his arm and by his actions Schloss couldn't trust another pitcher with a 7 run lead!!!
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Schloss is the goat and he's going to bring the university a Natty.
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I guess when the team is as good as this one we need something to ***** about….
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yell_on_6th st said:

jkag89 said:

yell_on_6th st said:

jkag89 said:

Quote:

I'm going to type this slowly so you can understand.

It
Was
The
Eighth
Inning
That
Makes
Zero
Sense
I'll ask again. Do you really think that A-Beck pitching the 8th yesterday is going to make one iota of difference of whether Schloss will use him tomorrow or not?

I could be wrong but once we went to him we were only going to use him for one more game this weekend and it did not matter that he was sent back out.

The mistake was two fold: more pitches on Asch's arm, and the apparent lack of confidence in any other pitcher to execute in a very manageable situation. (8th inning)
Answer my question please, don't dance around it.

I didn't dance around ***** More pitches on his arm and by his actions Schloss couldn't trust another pitcher with a 7 run lead!!!
Yes you did. My question for the third time is do you really think Schloss is going to use A-Beck for more than two games this weekend even if he sent someone else out in the 8th yesterday?
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snowdog90 said:

yell_on_6th st said:

snowdog90 said:

yell_on_6th st said:

snowdog90 said:

yell_on_6th st said:

Tobias Funke said:

yell_on_6th st said:

snowdog90 said:

Just a reminder, people *****ing about "wasting" Aschenbeck last night... do you guys have anything to say?

If it was me making those statements, I'd come back here and eat my deserved crow...

I ain't eating ****, why throw him in the 8th last night? I'll wait for your answer.


Because our future hall of fame coach thought that was the best move, that's why. I'll take that over the opinion of some crybaby yahoos on the internet 100% of the time.

No other pitchers out of the pen can protect a 7 run lead for one inning? Maybe get them some pt and confidence in a SEC road game? Can't simulate that in fall ball. Perfect set up. Dang, that's sad


It wasn't a 7-run lead and it wasn't 1 inning. It was bases loaded up 8-2 against a great hitter in the 7th. One swing could make it 8-6 with 2+ innings left. Worse, they could have rallied for 8 runs like Texas Southern did.

I'm going to type this slowly so you can understand.

It
Was
The
Eighth
Inning
That
Makes
Zero
Sense


Okay, gotcha. I can understand this and somewhat agree.

I think from Schloss' point of view, once Asch is loose and has thrown the 7th, one more inning is not very much more stress. Might as well use him for three more outs since it will not impede him from pitching again when needed.

I see your point, and I was also questioning if Asch should go in the 8th, but I think it has worked out okay so far. We'll see tomorrow if it bites us.

Hopefully the sticks explode tomorrow and we don't have to worry about it.

Thank you for the coherent response. It has worked out this time, I'm looking for good coaching, play, decision making so we can maximize success.


Me, too. This team is amazing. I'm curious to see if Asch could possibly go again tomorrow, or if Schloss would use him again.

As I said, hopefully we don't have to find out, but Asch is so efficient and doesn't seem to labor too much, so he might be able to go 3 days in a row for a few outs each day. Dude is already a legend, I wouldn't put anything past him.

Agree. Developing players is building a foundation, would like to see who can be the next Asch, build depth. Give the kids a chance to perform in a very favorable spot.
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jkag89 said:

yell_on_6th st said:

jkag89 said:

yell_on_6th st said:

jkag89 said:

Quote:

I'm going to type this slowly so you can understand.

It
Was
The
Eighth
Inning
That
Makes
Zero
Sense
I'll ask again. Do you really think that A-Beck pitching the 8th yesterday is going to make one iota of difference of whether Schloss will use him tomorrow or not?

I could be wrong but once we went to him we were only going to use him for one more game this weekend and it did not matter that he was sent back out.

The mistake was two fold: more pitches on Asch's arm, and the apparent lack of confidence in any other pitcher to execute in a very manageable situation. (8th inning)
Answer my question please, don't dance around it.

I didn't dance around ***** More pitches on his arm and by his actions Schloss couldn't trust another pitcher with a 7 run lead!!!
Yes you did. My question for the third time is do you really think Schloss is going to use A-Beck for more than two games this weekend even if he sent someone else out in the 8th yesterday?

If he doesn't use him in the eighth then he is in a better spot to be used more later in the series. When he sent him out there he didn't know if it would be a 12 pitch inning or 30 pitch inning. Dumb
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And if Schloss's concern was warranted and he trotted out someone other than Ash in the 8th and we lost...
Two can play this hypothetical game.

I understand why you think this was "wasting" Ash, but I have seen many games when a pitcher was breezing along and gets pulled with a comfortable lead. Then the bullpen comes in and blows it.

I think Schloss was thinking get this first road game into the books by any means necessary and then you at least put yourself in a position to win the series. Plus, Asch wasn't exactly taxed. He only threw ~20 pitches. Honestly, the bullpen, outside Asch, has been very hit or miss this year. It was nice to see Sdao step up and have a good outing. Need a couple of guys to step up to bridge these middle innings when our starters don't have it.

Just be happy we are playing for a sweep tomorrow.
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yell_on_6th st said:

jkag89 said:

yell_on_6th st said:

jkag89 said:

yell_on_6th st said:

jkag89 said:

Quote:

I'm going to type this slowly so you can understand.

It
Was
The
Eighth
Inning
That
Makes
Zero
Sense
I'll ask again. Do you really think that A-Beck pitching the 8th yesterday is going to make one iota of difference of whether Schloss will use him tomorrow or not?

I could be wrong but once we went to him we were only going to use him for one more game this weekend and it did not matter that he was sent back out.

The mistake was two fold: more pitches on Asch's arm, and the apparent lack of confidence in any other pitcher to execute in a very manageable situation. (8th inning)
Answer my question please, don't dance around it.

I didn't dance around ***** More pitches on his arm and by his actions Schloss couldn't trust another pitcher with a 7 run lead!!!
Yes you did. My question for the third time is do you really think Schloss is going to use A-Beck for more than two games this weekend even if he sent someone else out in the 8th yesterday?

If he doesn't use him in the eighth then he is in a better spot to be used more later in the series. When he sent him out there he didn't know if it would be a 12 pitch inning or 30 pitch inning.
It is a yes or no question. Could you answer it please and not act like Karine Jean-Pierre at a White House Press Breifing.
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ChemEng94 said:

And if Schloss's concern was warranted and he trotted out someone other than Ash in the 8th and we lost...
Two can play this hypothetical game.

I understand why you think this was "wasting" Ash, but I have seen many games when a pitcher was breezing along and gets pulled with a comfortable lead. Then the bullpen comes in and blows it.

I think Schloss was thinking get this first road game into the books by any means necessary and then you at least put yourself in a position to win the series. Plus, Asch wasn't exactly taxed. He only threw ~20 pitches. Honestly, the bullpen, outside Asch, has been very hit or miss this year. It was nice to see Sdao step up and have a good outing. Need a couple of guys to step up to bridge these middle innings when our starters don't have it.

Just be happy we are playing for a sweep tomorrow.

Except he wasn't "breezing" along, he pitched 5 pitches in the seventh. So glad he got us out of a tough spot. We got a run in the top of the eighth, if our bullpen is that crappy to burn a 7 run lead then so be it. I think you take your chances there and save Asch after 5 pitches.
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I realize many are looking at this season through our gaudy overall record… but the SEC is really hard and any team can lose any game- Schloss sees the importance of getting the wins nailed down when they present themselves.

That's it and the end game.

SEC Road series wins are hard to come by- and sweeps even less common. Let's see what shows up tomorrow.
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Tomorrow:

Lamkin on the start

Cortez in the 4th
J Stewart
Perry
Aschenbeck if it's close.

Quit whining, y'all.
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I think Lamkin goes far deeper into the game than 3 innings. We will not see A-Beck tomorrow and it is not dependent upon him pitching an extra inning yesterday. But of course we'll see how it plays out.
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yell_on_6th st said:

aginlakeway said:

yell_on_6th st said:

snowdog90 said:

yell_on_6th st said:

Tobias Funke said:

yell_on_6th st said:

snowdog90 said:

Just a reminder, people *****ing about "wasting" Aschenbeck last night... do you guys have anything to say?

If it was me making those statements, I'd come back here and eat my deserved crow...

I ain't eating ****, why throw him in the 8th last night? I'll wait for your answer.


Because our future hall of fame coach thought that was the best move, that's why. I'll take that over the opinion of some crybaby yahoos on the internet 100% of the time.

No other pitchers out of the pen can protect a 7 run lead for one inning? Maybe get them some pt and confidence in a SEC road game? Can't simulate that in fall ball. Perfect set up. Dang, that's sad


It wasn't a 7-run lead and it wasn't 1 inning. It was bases loaded up 8-2 against a great hitter in the 7th. One swing could make it 8-6 with 2+ innings left. Worse, they could have rallied for 8 runs like Texas Southern did.

I'm going to type this slowly so you can understand.

It
Was
The
Eighth
Inning
I
That
Makes
Zero
Sense


Why
Is
This
Such
A
Big
Deal
To
You?

I've stated my case. In baseball you have to make the right decision in every unique situation. There will be critical moments where you HAVE to get it right! Practice that! DO THAT!


I'm not very bright, but it appears we indeed made a correct decision. We won the game yesterday, and the same pitcher closed a much shaker game out today.

What's the error again?
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What are you blabbering about? The point, which obviously went over your head, is that once you pull your big gun, he isn't coming back. Just like a starter wo is cruising along and gets pulled due a pitch count.

Schloss used Asch in a high leverage situation in the 7th. You think it is a good idea to pull him and then ask a somewhat unreliable bullpen, to close the door. Most on here disagree. It is simply a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush thought process.

BTW, I also think that Schloss may have been thinking about the last Auburn game. The bullpen gave up 5 runs and blew 2 leads. So, maybe Schloss wanted to use his big gun to ensure the win when it was there for the taking.
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Agthatbuilds said:

yell_on_6th st said:

aginlakeway said:

yell_on_6th st said:

snowdog90 said:

yell_on_6th st said:

Tobias Funke said:

yell_on_6th st said:

snowdog90 said:

Just a reminder, people *****ing about "wasting" Aschenbeck last night... do you guys have anything to say?

If it was me making those statements, I'd come back here and eat my deserved crow...

I ain't eating ****, why throw him in the 8th last night? I'll wait for your answer.


Because our future hall of fame coach thought that was the best move, that's why. I'll take that over the opinion of some crybaby yahoos on the internet 100% of the time.

No other pitchers out of the pen can protect a 7 run lead for one inning? Maybe get them some pt and confidence in a SEC road game? Can't simulate that in fall ball. Perfect set up. Dang, that's sad


It wasn't a 7-run lead and it wasn't 1 inning. It was bases loaded up 8-2 against a great hitter in the 7th. One swing could make it 8-6 with 2+ innings left. Worse, they could have rallied for 8 runs like Texas Southern did.

I'm going to type this slowly so you can understand.

It
Was
The
Eighth
Inning
I
That
Makes
Zero
Sense


Why
Is
This
Such
A
Big
Deal
To
You?

I've stated my case. In baseball you have to make the right decision in every unique situation. There will be critical moments where you HAVE to get it right! Practice that! DO THAT!


I'm not very bright, but it appears we indeed made a correct decision. We won the game yesterday, and the same pitcher closed a much shaker game out today.

What's the error again?

You sir, are correct. Read all the posts.
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jkag89 said:

I think Lamkin goes far deeper into the game than 3 innings. We will not see A-Beck tomorrow and it is not dependent upon him pitching an extra inning yesterday. But of course we'll see how it plays out.
Totally fair. Im just saying, we have the arms to sweep!

I'll see you tomorrow, friendo!
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What **** ? Schloss used him twice, not likely going to use him again. Got 2 Ws. All set up for a sweep on the ROAD against a TOP 25 SEC opponent with a well rested bull pen with everyone able to take the ball except Sdao and A-Beck. Carolina's pen is nowhere close to being in that sort of shape. They haven't even named their starter yet. Maybe, just maybe mind you, Schloss knows what the eff he is doing.
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ChemEng94 said:

What are you blabbering about? The point, which obviously went over your head, is that once you pull your big gun, he isn't coming back. Just like a starter wo is cruising along and gets pulled due a pitch count.

Schloss used Asch in a high leverage situation in the 7th. You think it is a good idea to pull him and then ask a somewhat unreliable bullpen, to close the door. Most on here disagree. It is simply a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush thought process.

BTW, I also think that Schloss may have been thinking about the last Auburn game. The bullpen gave up 5 runs and blew 2 leads. So, maybe Schloss wanted to use his big gun to ensure the win when it was there for the taking.

If they are so unreliable they can't protect a 7 run lead with six outs to go, then Asch is gonna have a long year. Good luck bud, the rest are just here for the snow cones after the game.
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Tobias Funke said:

SchizoAg said:

snowdog90 said:

Just a reminder, people *****ing about "wasting" Aschenbeck last night... do you guys have anything to say?

If it was me making those statements, I'd come back here and eat my deserved crow...
We still could need him tomorrow, and we won't have him because he went Friday with a 6-run lead. You're doing your best to jinx us. Eating crow is not only premature, but entirely inappropriate, since nobody has been proven wrong, and even if we sweep the series, it was still a legitimate concern.
lol shut up
That's worthy of ten blue stars? F'ing depressing...
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Another great game by the Ags! Huge road series win!
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SchizoAg said:

Tobias Funke said:

SchizoAg said:

snowdog90 said:

Just a reminder, people *****ing about "wasting" Aschenbeck last night... do you guys have anything to say?

If it was me making those statements, I'd come back here and eat my deserved crow...
We still could need him tomorrow, and we won't have him because he went Friday with a 6-run lead. You're doing your best to jinx us. Eating crow is not only premature, but entirely inappropriate, since nobody has been proven wrong, and even if we sweep the series, it was still a legitimate concern.
lol shut up
That's worthy of ten blue stars? F'ing depressing...


I'm certain I would find it depressing too if I was in your shoes.
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Shake it off, Toby.
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Yell on 6th street is highly ignorable material. Won't miss reading his stupid trolling posts.
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yell_on_6th st said:

snowdog90 said:

yell_on_6th st said:

Tobias Funke said:

yell_on_6th st said:

snowdog90 said:

Just a reminder, people *****ing about "wasting" Aschenbeck last night... do you guys have anything to say?

If it was me making those statements, I'd come back here and eat my deserved crow...

I ain't eating ****, why throw him in the 8th last night? I'll wait for your answer.


Because our future hall of fame coach thought that was the best move, that's why. I'll take that over the opinion of some crybaby yahoos on the internet 100% of the time.

No other pitchers out of the pen can protect a 7 run lead for one inning? Maybe get them some pt and confidence in a SEC road game? Can't simulate that in fall ball. Perfect set up. Dang, that's sad


It wasn't a 7-run lead and it wasn't 1 inning. It was bases loaded up 8-2 against a great hitter in the 7th. One swing could make it 8-6 with 2+ innings left. Worse, they could have rallied for 8 runs like Texas Southern did.

I'm going to type this slowly so you can understand.

It
Was
The
Eighth
Inning
That
Makes
Zero
Sense
Two reasons, both of which have been stated by me and numerous others:

1. The 7th inning was a thing that actually happened. You can't judge the 8th inning in a vacuum on its own. The 8th happened because the 7th happened. Asch was already in the game Schloss (the only one that gets to make the choice) decided not to take any chances.

2. As to why, perhaps last weekend was fresh on his mind, when he tried to use a couple of other pitchers not named Asch and still had to burn Asch anyway.

We've now won the series and are playing for the sweep tomorrow with some really good arms still ready to go. We have a massive pitching advantage in game 3.
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grover1263 said:

We are gone out of here so fast after this year!
Care to explain? And, who is we?
 
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