$1M for two years to cover the buyout ($400K less than he was making here), then $2.7M for the next 5 years.

I can't recall a coach at that level, who wasn't about to be fired, taking less money to cover a buyout, it normally just gets paid on top of an equivalent salary.

https://www.statesman.com/story/sports/college/longhorns/baseball/2024/08/16/texas-basetball-jim-schlossnagle-contract-longhorns/74761090007/

It obviously wasn't primarily about the money.

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It obviously wasn't primarily about the money.

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Not in the short term, but long term it's a 100% raise over what he was making here. Of course if he'd stayed here, he would've gotten a huge raise too.

We would have countered with more, assuming we wanted him. It looks like Trev had a better plan!

So he gets $2.7 per year for 7 years but has to pay for his own buyout. Never heard of a coach being poached essentially having to pay their buyout.

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So he gets $2.7 per year for 7 years but has to pay for his own buyout. Never heard of a coach being poached essentially having to pay their buyout.

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It really just shows he wanted to be there rather than here, so probably best for both. Only logical conclusion. In my opinion ended up being the best thing for us so onwards and upwards. My only concern at this juncture is we beat the hell out of everyone next season. Won't fault him for following his heart. Will fault him tho for being a dbag.

And had he been an ethical, honest person, he could have done that here. I guess he left his family to go tu also. SMH

I'm ready for the ass kicking that will take place next season.

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I'm ready for the ass kicking that will take place next season.

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Like my grandson says" it's gonna be delicious!"

Not only is POS a dbag, but he's an emotionally driven idiot for accepting those terms. He was giving tu a dream scenario and that was the best he could negotiate. Maybe even tu knows he's really not worth it, comes with A LOT of baggage and they will most likely be looking for a new coach in a few years.

Schloss is/has been at the three baseball powers in this state and he is 0-2 with current players following him. If I was a tu parent that should be a red flag. It should be a red flag for any recruit too.

There's a lot more red flags than just that one.

Pretty clear that he was going to leave no matter what we offered. Which is fine.

Just do it with integrity.

We could not offer what was his focus. And it had nothing to do with baseball.

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Pretty clear that he was going to leave no matter what we offered. Which is fine.

Just do it with integrity.

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Yep. My thoughts as well. If he had left even a week after the finals, answered Zane's question with class, and told the team about it before bolting… I wouldn't be as mad. I'd be upset because we lost a good coach, but it wouldn't have stained his legacy like he did.

In reality, Texas and LSU are 1A and 1B in terms of top baseball jobs. A&M is a top 10 job but those two are historically the greatest. Sucks because they are rivals to us but it's true. So I can't fault him from a baseball perspective leaving for that job. It was the how and when that was the issue

Incorrect

When he's playing for the first time ever for the NC as a head coach in just his 3rd year at A&M, shows he had everything needed baseball wise.

You were not paying attention if you missed his real motivation.

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dermdoc said:

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Pretty clear that he was going to leave no matter what we offered. Which is fine.

Just do it with integrity.

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Yep. My thoughts as well. If he had left even a week after the finals, answered Zane's question with class, and told the team about it before bolting… I wouldn't be as mad. I'd be upset because we lost a good coach, but it wouldn't have stained his legacy like he did.

In reality, Texas and LSU are 1A and 1B in terms of top baseball jobs. A&M is a top 10 job but those two are historically the greatest. Sucks because they are rivals to us but it's true. So I can't fault him from a baseball perspective leaving for that job. It was the how and when that was the issue

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If sips didn't act like sips and wait to fire Pierce after the CWS, the Zane incident does not happen.

They can't help themselves.

Someone with legitimate knowledge told me that Schloss was never all-in for A&M, only himself, despite his many public claims. Further, he decided to leave shortly after being told he had to accept a BBP renovation that did not expand its footprint. His bristly relationship with Alberts, the AD layoffs, and his buddy CDC being in his head reinforced his decision.

Events have exposed and highlighted his very significant professional and personal character flaws. We have successfully transitioned, which was an extraordinary accomplishment. He must carry heavy baggage and satisfy his new, impatient fan base.

We'll see what happens.

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Schloss is/has been at the three baseball powers in this state and he is 0-2 with current players following him. If I was a tu parent that should be a red flag. It should be a red flag for any recruit too.

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It should be, but it won't matter. He's a heck of a coach and will have success in Austin just like he has everywhere else he has been.

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We would have countered with more, assuming we wanted him. It looks like Trev had a better plan!

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You have to be in some serious denial to think a coach with zero head coaching experience is better plan than a coach with numerous trips to Omaha and played a game three in the CWS finals.

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We would have countered with more, assuming we wanted him. It looks like Trev had a better plan!

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You have to be in some serious denial to think a coach with zero head coaching experience is better plan than a coach with numerous trips to Omaha and played a game three in the CWS finals.

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So what were our options?

Let's let the season and a few seasons play out before we just assume A&M isn't better off with Earley than Schloss. Also, I think it's a tremendous red flag that no players followed him from TCU or A&M. I don't know how much recruits and their parents pay attention or care but this would give me a lot of pause for concern. I can understand some kids will go to tu regardless of who the coach is but if I had comparative options, I would certainly look at that.

It's fine to say "we feel good about where we are, given every thing".

It's ridiculous to say "Trev had a better plan all along and we didn't counteroffer a guy we hate now, yay!"

If Trev's "plan" was to hire Earley rather than counter with Schloss, he wouldn't have left originally.

Just like there was a several week gap where everyone here wanted Schloss to bring in Saarloos to A&M, but he had enough indication than he was in the mix that he hung around TCU first to see what happened.

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It's fine to say "we feel good about where we are, given every thing".

It's ridiculous to say "Trev had a better plan all along and we didn't counteroffer a guy we hate now, yay!"

If Trev's "plan" was to hire Earley rather than counter with Schloss, he wouldn't have left originally.

Just like there was a several week gap where everyone here wanted Schloss to bring in Saarloos to A&M, but he had enough indication than he was in the mix that he hung around TCU first to see what happened.

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Our former baseball coach was going to the sips no matter what we offered.

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20ag07 said:

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It's fine to say "we feel good about where we are, given every thing".

It's ridiculous to say "Trev had a better plan all along and we didn't counteroffer a guy we hate now, yay!"

If Trev's "plan" was to hire Earley rather than counter with Schloss, he wouldn't have left originally.

Just like there was a several week gap where everyone here wanted Schloss to bring in Saarloos to A&M, but he had enough indication than he was in the mix that he hung around TCU first to see what happened.

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Our former baseball coach was going to the sips no matter what we offered.

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It is well understood now that Schloss was gone no matter what we tried to counter, but it is also silly to act like that was the preferred situation at the given time. Earley being hired and keeping the core of our boys was a silver lining in all of this, but don't pretend you wouldn't be the biggest schloss fan ever if he was still our coach going into 2025

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Someone with legitimate knowledge told me that Schloss was never all-in for A&M, only himself, despite his many public claims. Further, he decided to leave shortly after being told he had to accept a BBP renovation that did not expand its footprint. His bristly relationship with Alberts, the AD layoffs, and his buddy CDC being in his head reinforced his decision.

Events have exposed and highlighted his very significant professional and personal character flaws. We have successfully transitioned, which was an extraordinary accomplishment. He must carry heavy baggage and satisfy his new, impatient fan base.

We'll see what happens.

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If I had to guess we are going to expand the stadium to probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 10,000+ not including SRO. Texas can not expand D-F, is in worse shape than Olsen, and has god awful turf that the locals cherish. There's no available land near the university where they build something new.

He traded down on facilities, so I don't know if stadium talk really mattered. Ironically, either stadium is miles better than TCU's where he spent 18 years. I think he always wanted to be at Texas, but took a reputation hit to get there.

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sharpdressedman said:

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Someone with legitimate knowledge told me that Schloss was never all-in for A&M, only himself, despite his many public claims. Further, he decided to leave shortly after being told he had to accept a BBP renovation that did not expand its footprint. His bristly relationship with Alberts, the AD layoffs, and his buddy CDC being in his head reinforced his decision.

Events have exposed and highlighted his very significant professional and personal character flaws. We have successfully transitioned, which was an extraordinary accomplishment. He must carry heavy baggage and satisfy his new, impatient fan base.

We'll see what happens.

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If I had to guess we are going to expand the stadium to probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 10,000+ not including SRO. Texas can not expand D-F, is in worse shape than Olsen, and has god awful turf that the locals cherish. There's no available land near the university where they build something new.

He traded down on facilities, so I don't know if stadium talk really mattered. Ironically, either stadium is miles better than TCU's where he spent 18 years. I think he always wanted to be at Texas, but took a reputation hit to get there.

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Also, we are a couple years away from a completed renovation. CDC said that baseball/softball has to wait on football practice field renovations (where did Schloss hear that before). BTW, the football practice fields were supposed to be started this summer, but the is the historic building they want to tear down that has things on hold.

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Incorrect

When he's playing for the first time ever for the NC as a head coach in just his 3rd year at A&M, shows he had everything needed baseball wise.

You were not paying attention if you missed his real motivation.

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For the sake of argument let's say I wasn't paying attention.

What was his real motivation?

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He traded down on facilities, so I don't know if stadium talk really mattered. Ironically, either stadium is miles better than TCU's where he spent 18 years. I think he always wanted to be at Texas, but took a reputation hit to get there.

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If the goal was simply to get the job in Austin, he could have had it when they hired Pierce. However, CDC was not AD at that time (it was "interim" AD Mike Perrin). So, maybe he always wanted the t.u. job if the conditions were right, or maybe he just wanted to be at t.u. once CDC got the job. Who knows. Schloss doesn't think like the rest of us (and I don't just mean Aggies). That's one thing we've learned from this saga.

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He traded down on facilities, so I don't know if stadium talk really mattered. Ironically, either stadium is miles better than TCU's where he spent 18 years. I think he always wanted to be at Texas, but took a reputation hit to get there.

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If the goal was simply to get the job in Austin, he could have had it when they hired Pierce. However, CDC was not AD at that time (it was "interim" AD Mike Perrin). So, maybe he always wanted the t.u. job if the conditions were right, or maybe he just wanted to be at t.u. once CDC got the job. Who knows. Schloss doesn't think like the rest of us (and I don't just mean Aggies). That's one thing we've learned from this saga.

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Exactly.

It's obvious he was a control freak. Control freaks are often more about control than they are about money, which is why he took the contract he did.

Obviously, at a school like TCU, he got used to having too much power, but not enough resources. We looked attractive with much more money, but it comes with a lot more oversight/power players involved, which he never liked.

He's going to think CDC can give him the same control level he was used to at TCU, and is pretty quickly going to find out it doesn't work that way at that type of university, just like it didn't here.

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Someone with legitimate knowledge told me that Schloss was never all-in for A&M, only himself, despite his many public claims. Further, he decided to leave shortly after being told he had to accept a BBP renovation that did not expand its footprint. His bristly relationship with Alberts, the AD layoffs, and his buddy CDC being in his head reinforced his decision.

Events have exposed and highlighted his very significant professional and personal character flaws. We have successfully transitioned, which was an extraordinary accomplishment. He must carry heavy baggage and satisfy his new, impatient fan base.

We'll see what happens.

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If I had to guess we are going to expand the stadium to probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 10,000+ not including SRO. Texas can not expand D-F, is in worse shape than Olsen, and has god awful turf that the locals cherish. There's no available land near the university where they build something new.

He traded down on facilities, so I don't know if stadium talk really mattered. Ironically, either stadium is miles better than TCU's where he spent 18 years. I think he always wanted to be at Texas, but took a reputation hit to get there.

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It looks like there's at least as much room to expand Disch-Falk as BBP:


Bottom line, the swinger scene in College Station will never compete with the one in Austin, especially the LGBT+ segment.