Aggie Michael said:

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Got to revamp the entire coaching staff to turn this around. A&M was just making a name for itself as a top destination. Another season with these coaches, A&M will become an afterthought.

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So why not wait until the end of the season before evaluating the season?

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Aggie Michael said:

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Got to revamp the entire coaching staff to turn this around. A&M was just making a name for itself as a top destination. Another season with these coaches, A&M will become an afterthought.

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So why not wait until the end of the season before evaluating the season?

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Because the warning signs are more than there for a sub-par season.

sosolik said:

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aginlakeway said:

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Aggie Michael said:

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Got to revamp the entire coaching staff to turn this around. A&M was just making a name for itself as a top destination. Another season with these coaches, A&M will become an afterthought.

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So why not wait until the end of the season before evaluating the season?

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Because the warning signs are more than there for a sub-par season.

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You aren't making an in-season change. That is ridiculous.

Let the season play out and evaluate from there.

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sosolik said:

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aginlakeway said:

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Aggie Michael said:

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Got to revamp the entire coaching staff to turn this around. A&M was just making a name for itself as a top destination. Another season with these coaches, A&M will become an afterthought.

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So why not wait until the end of the season before evaluating the season?

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Because the warning signs are more than there for a sub-par season.

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You aren't making an in-season change. That is ridiculous.

Let the season play out and evaluate from there.

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100% agree.....nowhere did I say to make a mid-season change. Hoping Trev is at least assessing the situation a bit better than he did last time when he knew Schloss was likely gone midway through last season.

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powerbelly said:

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sosolik said:

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aginlakeway said:

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Aggie Michael said:

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Got to revamp the entire coaching staff to turn this around. A&M was just making a name for itself as a top destination. Another season with these coaches, A&M will become an afterthought.

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So why not wait until the end of the season before evaluating the season?

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Because the warning signs are more than there for a sub-par season.

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You aren't making an in-season change. That is ridiculous.

Let the season play out and evaluate from there.

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100% agree.....nowhere did I say to make a mid-season change. Hoping Trev is at least assessing the situation a bit better than he did last time when he knew Schloss was likely gone midway through last season.

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I don't think this was that clear at all

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powerbelly said:

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sosolik said:

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aginlakeway said:

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Aggie Michael said:

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Got to revamp the entire coaching staff to turn this around. A&M was just making a name for itself as a top destination. Another season with these coaches, A&M will become an afterthought.

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So why not wait until the end of the season before evaluating the season?

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Because the warning signs are more than there for a sub-par season.

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You aren't making an in-season change. That is ridiculous.

Let the season play out and evaluate from there.

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100% agree.....nowhere did I say to make a mid-season change. Hoping Trev is at least assessing the situation a bit better than he did last time when he knew Schloss was likely gone midway through last season.

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I don't think this was that clear at all

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Not midway through the season, but I heard rumors that were definitely starting to swirl around in May and I would hope our AD is more plugged in than I am on these things.

Schloss never had to address the issue until literally the last day of the season so for a lot of people it came out of nowhere because apparently the media was afraid to ever ask him about it.

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powerbelly said:

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sosolik said:

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aginlakeway said:

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Aggie Michael said:

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Got to revamp the entire coaching staff to turn this around. A&M was just making a name for itself as a top destination. Another season with these coaches, A&M will become an afterthought.

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So why not wait until the end of the season before evaluating the season?

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Because the warning signs are more than there for a sub-par season.

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You aren't making an in-season change. That is ridiculous.

Let the season play out and evaluate from there.

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100% agree.....nowhere did I say to make a mid-season change. Hoping Trev is at least assessing the situation a bit better than he did last time when he knew Schloss was likely gone midway through last season.

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And, what exactly was Alberts supposed to do when he heard the rumors? Fire Schloss then and there? He couldn't go out and solicit replacements until he had an opening, and Schloss dictated the timing on when we had an opening.

Can you imagine if he had fired pos in April or May?

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Can you imagine if he had fired pos in April or May?

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Especially given the fact that t.u. hadn't even fired Pierce.

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trouble said:

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Can you imagine if he had fired pos in April or May?

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Especially given the fact that t.u. hadn't even fired Pierce.

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The fires on this board would have been seen from the moon

However Del Conte had Pierce under contract while he was soliciting replacements for him....

Any talk that Schloss should have been fired in the midst of our most succession ever is just nonsense. However, it is fair to say that our athletic department were aware of the very really possibility and even likelihood of Schloss leaving the more the rumors swirled around as the season came to an end. They did absolutely nothing to be prepared and it showed. And stop saying they couldn't start putting feelers out there, it was well known throughout baseball circles what was going on and no one would have blamed us at all for creating some rumors of our own.

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powerbelly said:

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aginlakeway said:

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Aggie Michael said:

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Got to revamp the entire coaching staff to turn this around. A&M was just making a name for itself as a top destination. Another season with these coaches, A&M will become an afterthought.

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So why not wait until the end of the season before evaluating the season?

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Because the warning signs are more than there for a sub-par season.

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You aren't making an in-season change. That is ridiculous.

Let the season play out and evaluate from there.

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100% agree.....nowhere did I say to make a mid-season change. Hoping Trev is at least assessing the situation a bit better than he did last time when he knew Schloss was likely gone midway through last season.

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And, what exactly was Alberts supposed to do when he heard the rumors? Fire Schloss then and there? He couldn't go out and solicit replacements until he had an opening, and Schloss dictated the timing on when we had an opening.

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Nobody said fire him mid season but he could have done what Del Conte did (and other great ADs do in these situations) and start the back channel communications on finding a good replacement.

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However Del Conte had Pierce under contract while he was soliciting replacements for him....

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This is what the best ADs do......it's not a foreign concept!

It's always super easy to second guess the decisions and actions of the athletic director when none of us actually have any inside information as to what was going on behind the scenes April through June last year and none of us have any experience running an athletic department. It's fine to question things, but it really sounds like there wasn't much we could do with things when this all went down. Keep in mind, the incoming AD had just gotten here when this all went down. I know, que the experts with "that's no excuse, there is no honeymoon" comments from the very crowd that think they can run the athletic department better. But it's just the truth. This was just a weird deal all around. A school like A&M almost never loses a sitting HC to another school in the major men's big 3. Basketball has an argument l, obviously as the traditional basketball schools could poach. But in football and baseball? To tu of all places?!?! It's rare and unusual. That, a new AD coming in. Lots of strange moving parts. And again, we had legit candidates considering coming here, including Vitelo.

Bottom line is we got royally ****ed over by the sip AD and Coach Mother ****er. No way around that. We were on an epic run to a national championship so IMO there is no way our AD was going to disrupt that in any way, including starting talk about a coaching change. Should he have been privately planning our next move by gauging other coaches' interest? Maybe he was, nobody really knows. After Coach Mother ****er made it official that he was leaving, we apparently asked several top coaches if they were interested including Vitello. We tried to money whip him (reportedly) and he decided to stay at UT. Then the players (who were all in the portal) made it clear they wanted Earley and we prioritized keeping the talent here over bringing in someone with much more experience (or just any experience really). Trev decided to give the players what they wanted. And I think, at least in the long run, this was a huge mistake. If things don't turn around substantially and we keep Earley around for next year, I think we could have massive problems getting elite (or even good) talent here.

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sosolik said:

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aginlakeway said:

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Aggie Michael said:

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Got to revamp the entire coaching staff to turn this around. A&M was just making a name for itself as a top destination. Another season with these coaches, A&M will become an afterthought.

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So why not wait until the end of the season before evaluating the season?

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Because the warning signs are more than there for a sub-par season.

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You aren't making an in-season change. That is ridiculous.

Let the season play out and evaluate from there.

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100% agree.....nowhere did I say to make a mid-season change. Hoping Trev is at least assessing the situation a bit better than he did last time when he knew Schloss was likely gone midway through last season.

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And, what exactly was Alberts supposed to do when he heard the rumors? Fire Schloss then and there? He couldn't go out and solicit replacements until he had an opening, and Schloss dictated the timing on when we had an opening.

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Nobody said fire him mid season but he could have done what Del Conte did (and other great ADs do in these situations) and start the back channel communications on finding a good replacement.

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How do you know he didn't do that? The fact is, the timing made the job unattractive. If we'd hired anyone but Earley, the new guy would have been starting with a depleted roster and little opportunity to do something about it.

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How do you know we would have started with a depleted roster?

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sosolik said:

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powerbelly said:

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sosolik said:

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aginlakeway said:

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Aggie Michael said:

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Got to revamp the entire coaching staff to turn this around. A&M was just making a name for itself as a top destination. Another season with these coaches, A&M will become an afterthought.

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So why not wait until the end of the season before evaluating the season?

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Because the warning signs are more than there for a sub-par season.

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You aren't making an in-season change. That is ridiculous.

Let the season play out and evaluate from there.

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100% agree.....nowhere did I say to make a mid-season change. Hoping Trev is at least assessing the situation a bit better than he did last time when he knew Schloss was likely gone midway through last season.

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And, what exactly was Alberts supposed to do when he heard the rumors? Fire Schloss then and there? He couldn't go out and solicit replacements until he had an opening, and Schloss dictated the timing on when we had an opening.

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Nobody said fire him mid season but he could have done what Del Conte did (and other great ADs do in these situations) and start the back channel communications on finding a good replacement.

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How do you know he didn't do that? The fact is, the timing made the job unattractive. If we'd hired anyone but Earley, the new guy would have been starting with a depleted roster and little opportunity to do something about it.

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How do you know we would have started with a depleted roster?

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I agree, if you hire the right guy, most of our players stick around.

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sosolik said:

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sosolik said:

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powerbelly said:

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sosolik said:

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aginlakeway said:

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Aggie Michael said:

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Got to revamp the entire coaching staff to turn this around. A&M was just making a name for itself as a top destination. Another season with these coaches, A&M will become an afterthought.

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So why not wait until the end of the season before evaluating the season?

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Because the warning signs are more than there for a sub-par season.

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You aren't making an in-season change. That is ridiculous.

Let the season play out and evaluate from there.

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100% agree.....nowhere did I say to make a mid-season change. Hoping Trev is at least assessing the situation a bit better than he did last time when he knew Schloss was likely gone midway through last season.

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And, what exactly was Alberts supposed to do when he heard the rumors? Fire Schloss then and there? He couldn't go out and solicit replacements until he had an opening, and Schloss dictated the timing on when we had an opening.

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Nobody said fire him mid season but he could have done what Del Conte did (and other great ADs do in these situations) and start the back channel communications on finding a good replacement.

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How do you know he didn't do that? The fact is, the timing made the job unattractive. If we'd hired anyone but Earley, the new guy would have been starting with a depleted roster and little opportunity to do something about it.

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How do you know we would have started with a depleted roster?

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Vitello might have kept the roster together. Someone like Vaughn, who I think is a very good coach, probably would have struggled.

The point is that no one knows **** aside from the AD and maybe the new coach. No one knows if the old guy would've done any better with the injuries and expectations we've seen. And no one knows **** about how Coach Earley will work out. Anyone declaring him a failure after a month is full of ***** Those posts serve zero purpose.

Be frustrated. Be mad. Be critical. Don't be a dick. It's not hard.

It doesn't matter. We took a swing at the biggest name in college baseball and made him think very seriously about leaving the school he literally just won a natty with. I can't be mad about that.

After that it was rebuild with a more proven HC or keep an insanely talented roster together and continue to recruit with an unproven HC.

I'm fine with the decision to hire him. But now it's time for results.

2nd season starts this weekend. The narrative can be completely re-written. Or not.

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The point is that no one knows **** aside from the AD and maybe the new coach. No one knows if the old guy would've done any better with the injuries and expectations we've seen. And no one knows **** about how Coach Earley will work out. Anyone declaring him a failure after a month is full of ***** Those posts serve zero purpose.

Be frustrated. Be mad. Be critical. Don't be a dick. It's not hard.

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Don't be a dick. It's not hard

Classic.

I'm not so sure. His wife and kids wanted to stay here.

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Even if Earley was the Asst coach?

I hope Earley figures this out because the alternative sucks.

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There's no way Earley would have stayed as an assistant if he was passed over for head coach. He had taken an assistants job with Schloss at Austin, and simply would have gone on to the sips.

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Im not so sure.

All I know is that our 5 week summer trip which was planned to start in Omaha now is seeing massive changes. Knew we screwed up when we missed last year. Seems this may haunt me for life at this rate while I watch POS take Horns to their best beginning season since 2005? Didnt they win the natty that year? CDC and Schloss laughing to the bank....

But he was just going to be the hitting coach at tu. The staff structure wasn't changing and he wouldn't have been getting paid at the asst coach level. Living in Austin with 3 young kids stinks. The family wanted to be here for many reasons.

But that's all water under the bridge. I want Earley to be our Vitello. He's taking a hit with his best 4 hitters who are either hurt or missed fall ball and off to slow starts. Lots of stuff mentally for the team to deal with.

I've been to Omaha w/o the Ags being there. Yes, it more impactful when we're in it, but it's still a good time - especially for boys who are into baseball. Just shorten your stay if we're not there.