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Can someone help me understand all of the hate for Trev? What has he done or not done that garners so much hate? I'm not necessarily defending him, but don't understand why every thread has comments about how incompetent everyone thinks he is.
For baseball specifically I truly think POS left us in a lose lose situation. He hired Earley to keep the roster together & I think anyone who followed that situation closely understood this hire even if the results weren't as expected. If he had hired Rob Vaughn at the last hour and all of your favorite players were hitting hume runs for tu, lsu, and tenn, while we tried to gather a team of transfers to struggle through one of the hardest schedules in baseball, every one of you would have hated Trev for not hiring Earley.
Outside of baseball he signed a media rights deal that seems like a good thing? And he let our underporforming basketball coach leave and replaced him with a hire that most regard as a great hire.

With all of this being said, what are the specific things you guys seem to hate Trev for, or are there just a bunch of casual fans looking to place blame for their frustrations?
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I don't get it either, but I think people are just tired of the mediocrity at this point. And they will blame it on the AD no matter who it is and how long they've been here.

I haven't judged Trev yet, and whatever he decides to do with this program I will go with. But yes, he will also start to be judged by that decision.
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I think the fact that his first big hire seems to have been a bust in Earley. His second hire with Bucky might turn out but the fact that we lost out on our first choice in Beard was a big letdown. Add in the fact that he hasn't done anything with womens soccer or especially women's basketball. Women's basketball due to TV contracts is One of the three sports that actually can make revenue. While the streaming deal seems very good I hate signing such long term contracts because the dynamics in sports and media changes pretty quickly. Look at the ACC, thought they signed a great TV deal through 2036 only to find it is obsolete and causes them to be third way behind the SEC and Big Ten 10 in revenue along with causing a big rift within the conference
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1. Schloss debacle…. they quit communicating for whatever reason mid-late during sec schedule. Supposedly him leaving to Texas started the weekend of the Georgia series. How was there not a contingency plan in place for if/when Schloss jumped ship. We were left with no plan after being so close to a ship.

2. Buzz debacle almost identical to situation above, everybody knows he is leaving except Trev. No plan in place, We tried to just throw money at Beard and hope he took it.

3. Now we are at a cross roads with baseball again, and based off previous events that have happened no reason to think Trev gets this right.
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a.froman said:

I think the fact that his first big hire seems to have been a bust in Earley. His second hire with Bucky might turn out but the fact that we lost out on our first choice in Beard was a big letdown. Add in the fact that he hasn't done anything with womens soccer or especially women's basketball. Women's basketball due to TV contracts is One of the three sports that actually can make revenue. While the streaming deal seems very good I hate signing such long term contracts because the dynamics in sports and media changes pretty quickly. Look at the ACC, thought they signed a great TV deal through 2036 only to find it is obsolete and causes them to be third way behind the SEC and Big Ten 10 in revenue along with causing a big rift within the conference

Wbb is one of the largest money losing programs we have. If MBB can't make money no way the wbb will
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"Schloss debacle…. they quit communicating for whatever reason mid-late during sec schedule. Supposedly him leaving to Texas started the weekend of the Georgia series. How was there not a contingency plan in place for if/when Schloss jumped ship. We were left with no plan after being so close to a ship.

2. Buzz debacle almost identical to situation above, everybody knows he is leaving except Trev. No plan in place, We tried to just throw money at Beard and hope he took it.

3. Now we are at a cross roads with baseball again, and based off previous events that have happened no reason to think Trev gets this right."

This. And the first time POS skipped a baseball stadium meeting Trev should have been in POS office reaming his ass out for skipping an important meeting.

And Earley had key guys who were healthy that skipped fall ball. Evidently Trev was okay with that. No Trev isn't the coach but he is paid to know exactly WTF is going on and give out any necessary ass chewing. Evidently that isn't his style. And he sure wasn't a superstar at Nebraska.
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BQ_90 said:

a.froman said:

I think the fact that his first big hire seems to have been a bust in Earley. His second hire with Bucky might turn out but the fact that we lost out on our first choice in Beard was a big letdown. Add in the fact that he hasn't done anything with womens soccer or especially women's basketball. Women's basketball due to TV contracts is One of the three sports that actually can make revenue. While the streaming deal seems very good I hate signing such long term contracts because the dynamics in sports and media changes pretty quickly. Look at the ACC, thought they signed a great TV deal through 2036 only to find it is obsolete and causes them to be third way behind the SEC and Big Ten 10 in revenue along with causing a big rift within the conference

Wbb is one of the largest money losing programs we have. If MBB can't make money no way
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I guess that was kinda my point with the post. Seems like a lot of the hate is based on lots of assumptions. If I had an un-engaged employee with "ahemm, strong ties..." to another employer, communication would probably suffer. To say Trev was blindsided and had no plan though seems like a reach. I believe him when he said he conducted sonewhere around 8 interviews with top candites and would assume there was research, contacts, and an interview plan made before the season ended. A large portion of your roster suddenly backing a new candidate and saying they will leave otherwise, likely changes the plan.

For basketball, seems like the plan was always to throw what we had at beard and then go after option 2 (probably a small pool of candidates including bucky). I don't know that you can place all of the blame on trev for him not accepting. Trev could have been planning his basketball pitch for beard from the very 1st day he arrived on campus and it still wouldn't change what the A&M basketball job is, or what kind of money we could provide.

Again, not here to argue all of the specifics or say Trev will be a great AD, just saying I personally haven't seen enough true decisions play out to say whether he is good or bad.
I expect we will learn a lot over the next year.
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Seems he was brought in to stabilize the financials in the ath dept first and foremost. that will give some PTSD thanks to brokedick Eric Hymen.
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Trev is fine. He has been left a mess to clean up by the previous two or three athletic directors. NIL is siphoning funds from operations. Jimbo's contract payout is a drain. Schlossnozzle wasn't going to be here any longer than BCG was. Both were looking for other jobs when they took this one. So get over it. I think everyone needs to get off Trev's back and let him sort this out.
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Some Ags hate our AD the day they step on campus. It's been a trend for a while. Probably another side affect of BAS. Just blame the head guy all the time.

Spike Dykes used to say a coach loses 10% of his fan base every year. Well, an Aggie AD starts his job with 40-50% against him on day one.

I see some bashing him for losing Buzz. Oh darn, we lost Buzz. I think I'll be ok. Those that do that one are the perfect example of the above. Cutting off their nose to spite their face.
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LB12Diamond said:

Some Ags hate our AD the day they step on campus. It's been a trend for a while. Probably another side affect of BAS. Just blame the head guy all the time.
When pretty much every athletic program sucks, and has sucked for almost 100 years, people tend to not like the AD. Fair or not.
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Yes

Side affect of BAS just as I stated. You clearly have it as well.
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It's because he does not proactively communicate.
Byrne did it very well with his weekly/monthly messages.
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Buford T. Justice said:

It's because he does not proactively communicate.
Byrne did it very well with his weekly/monthly messages.

Of course, Byrne was terrible as well…at least that seems to be the Texags consensus.
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Like I said. BAS Aggies go to where they think is the cause of all their pain.
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I agree that our fanbase is too quick to judge/blame the AD, especially when they don't have all the facts. However there are starting to be some situations that raise some concern. Namely how he is handling women's basketball and soccer. Will wait to see how things play, but these examples of how he is managing our programs are not good. Also hope he has succession plans for programs like track that have a successful coach nearing the end of his career.
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When you have one sport underperform, the coach is the scapegoat and fans start to think of the next coach. Our entire athletics program is in the ****ter. All of our important teams suck, have underwhelming coaches (the face of the franchise and the piece of the equation the AD manages) and the ones who get fired get replaced by arguably worse, though untested, options. Whether it's TA's fault or not is kind of irrelevant. He is the head man of the entirety of Aggie Athletics, and Aggie Athletics as a whole is the worst I have ever seen it right now. It's an embarrassment, and that falls to him, right or wrong.
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jmac13 said:

1. Schloss debacle…. they quit communicating for whatever reason mid-late during sec schedule. Supposedly him leaving to Texas started the weekend of the Georgia series. How was there not a contingency plan in place for if/when Schloss jumped ship. We were left with no plan after being so close to a ship.

2. Buzz debacle almost identical to situation above, everybody knows he is leaving except Trev. No plan in place, We tried to just throw money at Beard and hope he took it.

3. Now we are at a cross roads with baseball again, and based off previous events that have happened no reason to think Trev gets this right.


Well said. We cannot relive a reality where he doesnt fire schloss' ops guy; is more communicative with him; etc. Would he leave regardless? I know some say yes. I'd like to see what would have happened.

Hiring a loser to protect the roster who played to an 11-19 record and no postseason speaks for itself.

All those fearful of a rebuild, well, you are getting one; delayed by a year and after a miserable season

Trev wasnt loved by his alma mater. Says alot. Hated at espn too.

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Sterling82 said:

Buford T. Justice said:

It's because he does not proactively communicate.
Byrne did it very well with his weekly/monthly messages.

Of course, Byrne was terrible as well…at least that seems to be the Texags consensus.
Bill Byrne was the best athletic director we've ever had.
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Great points!
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Artimus Gordon said:

Trev is fine. He has been left a mess to clean up by the previous two or three athletic directors. NIL is siphoning funds from operations. Jimbo's contract payout is a drain. Schlossnozzle wasn't going to be here any longer than BCG was. Both were looking for other jobs when they took this one. So get over it. I think everyone needs to get off Trev's back and let him sort this out.
Agreed. Everyone is looking for a scapegoat because of their disappointment.Trev is an easy target. The explanations given are a lot of guessing and assuming.
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I don't think so, the information I have listed above has came from the Texags folks & other media outlets.

https://www.si.com/college/tamu/basketball/shocking-claim-relationship-between-buzz-williams-trev-alberts-texas-am-aggies-01jr8ahrn98k

https://247sports.com/article/jim-schlossnagle-bothered-by-texas-am-ad-trev-alberts-comment-before-texas-move-233362125/

Its ok to say that Trev has not been good here in his short tenure, I would say the ability to hire/retain quality coaches is one of the top priorities of the job.
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You think Buzz is a top quality coach? He won two tournament games total in 6 years. Also Buzz has left every job he's been to in the same time frame. So I guess that's all those ADs fault and not a trend on what Buzz likes to do.
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The A&M athletic program is badly underperforming, and Trev is the man at the top cashing the big checks. It's that simple.
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**Coming from a nonstop Sunshine Pumper at an all-time Low about Athletics**

The fact that 2/3 major coaches left in the year he's been here isn't a good sign.

In baseball, he never should have gotten himself in that situation. He hadn't talked to Schloss in months prior to his departure. It should have been clear what was happening, and he should have had a succession plan in place.

In basketball, Striking out on Beard in spite of offering him a football coach salary is wild.

Bucky could be a great hire, but there's no telling yet.

The reality is that we got a mid major who is a total unknown. I'm ok with that for basketball. Basketball is my transition from football to baseball season. It's the 3rd sport. I'm fine with an entertaining team that throws up threes and beats some teams they shouldn't in basketball. Basketball will never win a natty, it's just entertainment.

That would not have been an acceptable hire for our football or baseball programs.

And overall, the athletic department is at an all time low in every category that isn't money.

Woman's basketball sucks. Woman's soccer sucks. Softball went from #1 to one and done in the tournament. Baseball went from #1 to not making the tournament. Football squandered multiple opportunities to play for an SEC Championship.

There is currently no major sport that I see short term championship potential in, outside of the networking sports (tennis and golf)

Is all of that Trev's fault, maybe not, but there is nothing resembling a winning or championship culture at this school in sports. We have regressed greatly in the last year.

I'd trade places with Ole Miss in a heartbeat right now. Half the money, terrible facilities, but the hope of winning is there.
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Winning solves everything. When teams are losing, fans look for a scapegoat. Look at pro sports. If it's not the coach, it's the GM. If that doesn't work, fans chant "sell the team".

A&M Athletics had an incredibly disappointing school year, and people are frustrated. They look for someone to blame, and they find Trev. That's it.
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Again

No one cares Buzz left. We should be thanking him for not having to pay a buyout. He's left everywhere he's been as well. Jimbo would have done the same if we did not have such a stupid contract that gave him no incentive to leave.

And Trev was not going to stop Schloss from running off to his butt buddy. I understand people seeing what they want to see to justify their stance. But if you cannot see what happened on this one. Whatever man.

That being said, Trev needs to knock this baseball hire out of the park.
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LB12Diamond said:

Again

No one cares Buzz left. We should be thanking him for not having to pay a buyout. He's left everywhere he's been as well.

And Trev was not going to stop Schloss from running off to his butt buddy. I understand people seeing what they want to see to justify their stance. But if you cannot see what happened on this one. Whatever man.

That being said, Trev needs to knock this baseball hire out of the park.
Look, I'm not saying he could have kept them, but he should have read the writing on the wall, and been ready to go. He wasn't. Both of those coaching searches were mishandled, and led to underwhelming hires.

I'm not saying Trev sucks. I'm saying this athletic department sucks, and he's in charge of it.

He's done nothing showing himself to be any good at anything but creating a stockpile of money. I'd trade places with a poor winner.
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TnAg23 said:

In baseball, he never should have gotten himself in that situation. He hadn't talked to Schloss in months prior to his departure. It should have been clear what was happening, and he should have had a succession plan in place.
The only way Trev got himself into the situation with Schloss was by accepting the A&M AD job. Schloss was gone regardless by that point.
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Ag13 said:

TnAg23 said:

In baseball, he never should have gotten himself in that situation. He hadn't talked to Schloss in months prior to his departure. It should have been clear what was happening, and he should have had a succession plan in place.
The only way Trev got himself into the situation with Schloss was by accepting the A&M AD job. Schloss was gone regardless by that point.
Fine, then he should have figured that out and had the coaching search going months earlier. The excuse everyone gives for hiring Earley Is how late in the game Schloss left, and how limited the options were. If he was already gone in April, the coaching search should have started in April. Hell, I'd say that if you knew for sure, then Schloss should have been fired (Or suspended if your worried about buyouts)
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I don't think it's as easy you think. Especially with our team doing so well and almost winning it all. What took place I'm pretty sure was unprecedented.

He approached Schloss on the matter. Schloss lied to him. So while his instincts told him that something was probably up, we were not going to go guns a blazing into coaching search when we are in the middle of our best season ever.

I'm sure Trev's gut was telling him what was about to happen at the CWS but again we are playing to win it all at that time.

Now with the luxury of hindsight being 20/20 we should have gone another direction than Earley. I think they could have maybe got Vaughn or Skip last year even with the bad timing. No way in the world O'Connor. They took a big risk. It failed. Now they need to correct the failure of hiring Earley.
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Agreed with the feedback on the situation from Trev.

If he was allowing POS to move, where was his grand plan for the successor regardless of timing? Regardless of how we feel about POS, if the following quote is even half true, Trev is inept. None of us in our own lives would tell an employee that unless we were ready to move on and have a plan to 'upgrade'.

"He said to me, 'You know, Jim, if you ever don't feel like this is the place for you, that's OK, and it's OK to move on.' I was little taken aback by that, and that was the moment that I began to think that maybe this wasn't going to work out."

Anticipating Buzz walking too and not having better plan(s) other than settling with Bucky is also bizarre. No knocks on Bucky (yet), but geez Trev, your (lack of) planning with staffing and filling critical roles SHOULD make us question your leadership and direction the athletic department is going.
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He can prove me wrong this month, and I'll be thrilled.

Fire Earley and go hire someone nobody thinks he can get.
Vitello and O'Conner, then Skip Johnson and Rob Vaughn.

If names like Jeff Traylor pop back up, than I have no confidence in his ability to attract top coaches.

So far, every coaching search has been settling.
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Yes Buzz viewed as a top 20ish college basketball coach.

I think you are missing it…. nobody is disputing he leaves the every 6-7 years.

The problem was we were left in panic mode, and settled with Bucky (who I think can be good)

But again we struck out on multiple candidates before we settled on bucky.
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