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In reply to Wes97 • 1:49p, 5/27/25
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What head coach here has talked bad about Trev? I don't think I've seen anything of that sorts, but I may just have missed it.
"Talked bad about" vs "nothing positive to say" are slightly different but only because some people are a little old school about airing dirty laundry in public.

But you can start with asking the coaches that have actually won a national title if they are happy with everything that they get from the AD. Pat Henry has no problem telling you when he is annoyed with something.

That's a fair point, but I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing if not every single coach is getting exactly what they want. It's clear we had budget issues before and that's a big reason we went with Trev as the AD.

It likely requires a balancing act to try and keep coaches happy enough while getting our finances in order. I'm not ready to say Trev has completely failed at that when I do think Schloss and Buzz were a bit of special cases.
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In reply to Wes97 • 1:52p, 5/27/25
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No offense bud, but I don't ever hear coaches talking about their ADs good or bad from any school.

Bc they are focused on their teams and job and that's it.
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In reply to DaAggies • 1:53p, 5/27/25
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Fair enough. But outside of this board I haven't seen anyone, nationally or otherwise, that has much positive to say about working with Trev Albert's. Anywhere.
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1:56p, 5/27/25
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I'm not ready to completely label Trev anything yet, but my biggest qualm with him hasn't been the coaching searches but Earley's contract.

I thought the decision on the hire was fine, but he was a first time head coach with relatively small amount of years as an assistant. How does he end up with that much guaranteed money in a buyout? If he was fully guaranteed, we should at least have been able to negotiate him to a lower salary for being a first time coach.
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In reply to LB12Diamond • 1:58p, 5/27/25
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Well Henry has made his complaints fairly public. Even on TexAgs interviews before. But these coaches are out in public and at various athletic department events. You can talk to them and they will often give you their straight opinion. Not that difficult. I'm not a huge donor but I show up at the old athletic ambassador /12th Man MVP donor events. Coaches are there to hit you up for things. They aren't shy,
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In reply to DaAggies • 1:59p, 5/27/25
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I believe other have already said his contract is just a standard contract. Unless fired for cause coaching contracts are all guaranteed. Thats why Mich State tried to get their football coach fired for cause bc they had almost as bad a contract as we did for jimbo. Earley's contract could not have been much shorter. It was risky hire and it failed.
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In reply to Wes97 • 2:06p, 5/27/25
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So your basis is the number one coach in his profession. Who basically has gotten what he has wanted since being here.

FYI he's been here through several of the ADs and still keeps trucking. Looks like he knows how to navigate through them good bad or whatever.

Just as Schloss could have if he had wanted to be here. He was going to get the stadium renovations that he continually talked about. Just like Henry. But he ran off with his pineapple buddy first.
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In reply to LB12Diamond • 2:14p, 5/27/25
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That's three coaches now. And I'm not going to try to speak for the smaller sports. They are walking a tight line worried about being cut off as it is,

But all of this has nothing to do with Trev. It's always everyone else.

I'm not sure why this board treats the AD like he is their handicapped younger brother that constantly needs defending. When you have 3 different coaches (not counting NE people) complaining maybe some small part of the issue might by with the AD. Or not. Believe what you want.

It will follow the same storyline. He is great up Until he is eventually fired and then everyone will be unanimous that they always knew he was a jackass. Same story with our old coaches. Rinse and repeat.
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In reply to Wes97 • 2:17p, 5/27/25
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That's three coaches now. And I'm not going to try to speak for the smaller sports. They are walking a tight line worried about being cut off as it is,

But all of this has nothing to do with Trev. It's always everyone else.

I'm not sure why this board treats the AD like he is their handicapped younger brother that constantly needs defending. When you have 3 different coaches (not counting NE people) complaining maybe some small part of the issue might by with the AD. Or not. Believe what you want.

It will follow the same storyline. He is great up Until he is eventually fired and then everyone will be unanimous that they always knew he was a jackass. Sane story with our old coaches. Rinse and repeat.
Is the board treating him like a younger brother, or are we simply tired of people looking for scapegoats based largely on false assumptions?

I don't know Alberts. He may be a complete jerk, but there are always folks looking for an easy solution, and one of the easiest is to blame the AD.
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In reply to LB12Diamond • 2:21p, 5/27/25
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I believe other have already said his contract is just a standard contract. Unless fired for cause coaching contracts are all guaranteed. Thats why Mich State tried to get their football coach fired for cause bc they had almost as bad a contract as we did for jimbo. Earley's contract could not have been much shorter. It was risky hire and it failed.

I'll admit, I don't know much about guarantees in college baseball coaching but he is currently making the same as Vaughn and more than Mignione. It's hard to actually figure out what other conference's coaches make through google, but he seems in line with many other coaches who had more experience and success before their current stop.

I supported the hire at the time, but I have always been surprised that he was able to get as much as he did when the only reason he was able to get a job of this caliber was due to his connection as a previous assistant and relationship with current players. It just felt as if we should have been able to negotiate a lower salary due to the inexperience and risks around him.
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In reply to Wes97 • 2:21p, 5/27/25
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What do you mean three coaches.

Buzz and Schloss left for their own reasons. That's easy to see.

As TWK just said, no clue on Trev but I do know the above two coaches. They both have strong personalities just like Henry. And if they wanted to be here. They would still be here.
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In reply to twk • 2:23p, 5/27/25
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Fair enough. But there is only one AD I have ever said this stuff about.

I disagreed with Byrne, Woodward, and Bjork on some of their decisions, but I agreed with them on others. And I thought they were all decent guys who all did their best for Texas A&M while they were here, but they are all mercenaries too. Which everyone should keep in mind.
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In reply to DaAggies • 2:23p, 5/27/25
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Well, it was a risky hire but I don't think anyone envisioned him stinking this bad. So him needing to go after one year makes the contract look a lot worse.

Being the baseball coach at A&M just allows the contract to be bigger than it should.

I knew a guy who made pretty good money. I asked him what he did. He said he had a day care business. I was like. Oh, a few. He said nope, just one. And I was like. That's makes good money. He said it does bc of where it's located. In Belliare. The rich folks that live around there pay four times what it's actually worth just bc that makes them feel like they are getting better daycare. Even though his daycare is just like any other. He said if he lowered the price, he would actually lose business.

So agents know this about A&M and they know what they can get for their coaches.
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2:30p, 5/27/25
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Aggie Athletics as a whole is the worst I have ever seen it right now
2000-2005 would like a word
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In reply to LB12Diamond • 2:35p, 5/27/25
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Well, it was a risky hire but I don't think anyone envisioned him stinking this bad. So him needing to go after one year makes the contract look a lot worse.

I did notice it at the time when seeing the contract details, but I'm sure you are right that I wouldn't have been complaining if things worked out.

I think everyone agreed the hire had risk and was a gamble based upon roster retention, but I just wish to have seen the risk baked more into the contract. Not a massive strike against Trev, but something I think he could have done better on since we all knew there was chance Earley wouldn't be ready for an opportunity like this.

I do see your added point, and I absolutely agree that was likely a big part of it. I just think the AD brought in to save money should have done a better job not spending the extra money just cause we have it. I feel Earley lacked the leverage to end up with that salary.
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In reply to dixichkn • 2:37p, 5/27/25
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2000-2005 would like a word


Fingers crossed that Elko produces this year, Bucky has an amazing first year and that our Earley woes are addressed because it appears to be more likely that we will see same ol same ol despite "progressing"
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In reply to DaAggies • 2:43p, 5/27/25
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I agree but my guess is the agents are better at contracts than Trev. I'm not sure who we have in place to counter these agents but our legal side on contracts it does appear need to be better.

Who really knows anything about Trev. In the PCs he's done, he's very polished. Knows how to pander to the audience.

I am watching intently with how he handles this one. There's a lot of dynamics to it. And with what happened last summer with Texas and being in the same conference now, I would be shocked if Trev does not make a move.
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In reply to LB12Diamond • 2:52p, 5/27/25
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Completely agree. I think this coaching decision/search will be the most telling on what kind of a job he will do at A&M.

The past couple searches he had his hands tied to a larger degree. Being earlier in the process and not held hostage by the decision of a coach we would retain otherwise, he has a lot more power to find his guy.
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2:53p, 5/27/25
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I don't get the hate for the guy. It seems like people just want someone to blame and don't really care if it makes sense or not.

He was doing well at Nebraska and my friends that are big Nebraska fans were sad to see him go.

The Earley hire was bad in retrospect, but it was so late in the cycle that options were more limited and it made sense to keep the roster in tact.

The Bucky hire looks incredibly promising. I know a lot of people were let down that we didn't land the wife beater, but of any reasonable candidates that A&M could have considered, I am not sure any would have built a roster that is as good as what Bucky has constructed in year one.

To the people griping about women's soccer and basketball...really?
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In reply to Zachary Klement • 2:57p, 5/27/25
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I don't get the hate for the guy. It seems like people just want someone to blame and don't really care if it makes sense or not.

He was doing well at Nebraska and my friends that are big Nebraska fans were sad to see him go.

The Earley hire was bad in retrospect, but it was so late in the cycle that options were more limited and it made sense to keep the roster in tact.

The Bucky hire looks incredibly promising. I know a lot of people were let down that we didn't land the wife beater, but of any reasonable candidates that A&M could have considered, I am not sure any would have built a roster that is as good as what Bucky has constructed in year one.

To the people griping about women's soccer and basketball...really?


Agree with everything.

Yes on the soccer. Coach G has been here forever. Started our program and did very well for a long time. Yes, I agree, it does appear time for a change but someone like Coach G will get a little time and my understanding if it stays the same this year he will step down.

Girls basketball. Hmm, if you don't understand the optics on this one. Not sure what to think.
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In reply to LB12Diamond • 3:00p, 5/27/25
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Zachary Klement said:
I don't get the hate for the guy. It seems like people just want someone to blame and don't really care if it makes sense or not.

He was doing well at Nebraska and my friends that are big Nebraska fans were sad to see him go.

The Earley hire was bad in retrospect, but it was so late in the cycle that options were more limited and it made sense to keep the roster in tact.

The Bucky hire looks incredibly promising. I know a lot of people were let down that we didn't land the wife beater, but of any reasonable candidates that A&M could have considered, I am not sure any would have built a roster that is as good as what Bucky has constructed in year one.

To the people griping about women's soccer and basketball...really?


Agree with everything.

Yes on the soccer. Coach G has been here forever. Started our program and did very well for a long time. Yes, I agree, it does appear time for a change but someone like Coach G will get a little time and my understanding if it stays the same this year he will step down.

Girls basketball. Hmm, if you don't understand the optics on this one. Not sure what to think.
I would rather A&M's AD be focused on football, basketball, and baseball. Keep the others afloat for Title IX purposes, but I could not care much less about what happens there.
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In reply to Zachary Klement • 3:04p, 5/27/25
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I get that but there are actual reasons nothing was done. The funny part about people complaining about those two. Like you, they probably don't care about either of them. There's not many fans in the seats at either of them. It is just a means they feel allows them to complain about the AD.
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3:05p, 5/27/25
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I don't give a **** what anyone says he did nothing to prevent Schloss from leaving, and actually made it more easy for him to leave (fumbling the new stadium project, firing staffers of Schloss without alerting him first, and not talking contract extensions even when we were facing a national title run). That alone is unforgivable even if Schloss would of left anyway
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In reply to LB12Diamond • 3:12p, 5/27/25
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LB12Diamond said:
I get that but there are actual reasons nothing was done. The funny part about people complaining about those two. Like you, they probably don't care about either of them. There's not many fans in the seats at either of them. It is just a means they feel allows them to complain about the AD.
Now I am curious! What were the reasons?
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In reply to fightintxaggie10 • 3:15p, 5/27/25
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I don't give a **** what anyone says he did nothing to prevent Schloss from leaving, and actually made it more easy for him to leave (fumbling the new stadium project, firing staffers of Schloss without alerting him first, and not talking contract extensions even when we were facing a national title run). That alone is unforgivable even if Schloss would of left anyway
For real. Schloss left his family to be the coach at Texas A&M. He took the job at Texas A&M to never take another job again.
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In reply to Zachary Klement • 3:18p, 5/27/25
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fightintxaggie10 said:
I don't give a **** what anyone says he did nothing to prevent Schloss from leaving, and actually made it more easy for him to leave (fumbling the new stadium project, firing staffers of Schloss without alerting him first, and not talking contract extensions even when we were facing a national title run). That alone is unforgivable even if Schloss would have left anyway
For real. Schloss left his family to be the coach at Texas A&M. He took the job at Texas A&M to never take another job again.


Darn it Trev, how did you not keep the pineapple gang from getting back together again.

Trev should have focused on improving the swingers night life in college station. What the heck was he doing those
first two months not to totally put his focus on this area.
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In reply to LB12Diamond • 3:20p, 5/27/25
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LB12Diamond said:
Zachary Klement said:
fightintxaggie10 said:
I don't give a **** what anyone says he did nothing to prevent Schloss from leaving, and actually made it more easy for him to leave (fumbling the new stadium project, firing staffers of Schloss without alerting him first, and not talking contract extensions even when we were facing a national title run). That alone is unforgivable even if Schloss would have left anyway
For real. Schloss left his family to be the coach at Texas A&M. He took the job at Texas A&M to never take another job again.


Darn it Trev, how did you not keep the pineapple gang from getting back together again.

Trev should have focused on improving the swingers night life in college station. What the heck was he doing those
first two months not to totally put his focus on this area.
Did Trev at least OFFER Schloss an evening with his missus?! If not, he clearly does not value winning enough.
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In reply to fightintxaggie10 • 3:32p, 5/27/25
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Good try but I wish you good luck making that argument. The internet is not made for anything but very simple stands. Debating the Schloss thing is like talking about foreign policy on a political website.

Everything has to be very simple & black & white. If you point out that the other side might have some legitimate complaints then you are obviously a Putin lover who wants to join al-qaeda.

Schloss can be a jackass and still have had a few legitimate complaints.
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In reply to LB12Diamond • 3:42p, 5/27/25
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Blame the people that hired Trev. Not Trev bc Schloss has mad they did not go with the guy he wanted from Navy.

If you really want to place blame. Place it there bc if Schloss got the AD he wanted who just so happened to have a background in baseball maybe he never entertains CDC.

But I do know as TWK has said, there was nothing Trev could do. The only reason we knew something was up bc they started recruiting HS kids to Texas and that got back to us.


Army/West Point, and he is now the current AD at TCU.
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In reply to Wes97 • 3:51p, 5/27/25
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Schloss can be a jackass and still have had a few legitimate complaints.
Other than including the support staff guy in a reduction in force (that went across the department), Schloss has no legitimate or quasi-legitimate beef with Alberts. Schloss was pissed that Alberts was hired instead of his guy, and delays on getting the project done are laid at the feet of Bjork (Alberts couldn't have gotten those done in 2 months, and Schloss was AWOL for meetings to discuss the project in that timeframe).
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In reply to LB12Diamond • 3:53p, 5/27/25
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Hey Ags

Can we all agree on one thing. We better get this hire right.


What hire?
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In reply to twk • 4:02p, 5/27/25
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The firing thing is a pretty big deal though. Especially when Schloss considered him part of his staff, even though he was technically part of the AD staff. Not running that by your coaches is a pretty big blunder, IMO.

And the stadium delays may have preceded him but you know your coach is sensitive on that front. A competent AD does whatever it takes to smooth that over. Not just ignore it and move on. And Trev has been here a while now and still little to no progress on the whole stadium deal. At a certain point any coach is going to get po'd about that.

I wasn't there but someone reported the other day that even Earley at a recent dugout club meeting indicated he was kind of clueless on the timeline re: stadium renovation issues. So the current coach is in the dark too? Whose fault is that?
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In reply to BQ_90 • 4:38p, 5/27/25
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That sounds like Mr. Earley will be shown the door soon.
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In reply to IslanderAg04 • 4:48p, 5/27/25
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Gracias
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