The problem wasn't a lack of a search. The problem was the lack of an opening until June 25, at which point in time none of the top names wanted to make a move. Short of firing Schloss mid-season, there wasn't much else Alberts could have done.TnAg23 said:Fine, then he should have figured that out and had the coaching search going months earlier. The excuse everyone gives for hiring Earley Is how late in the game Schloss left, and how limited the options were. If he was already gone in April, the coaching search should have started in April. Hell, I'd say that if you knew for sure, then Schloss should have been fired (Or suspended if your worried about buyouts)Ag13 said:The only way Trev got himself into the situation with Schloss was by accepting the A&M AD job. Schloss was gone regardless by that point.TnAg23 said:
In baseball, he never should have gotten himself in that situation. He hadn't talked to Schloss in months prior to his departure. It should have been clear what was happening, and he should have had a succession plan in place.
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I he truly knew what was coming, then that's exactly what he should have done.twk said:The problem wasn't a lack of a search. The problem was the lack of an opening until June 25, at which point in time none of the top names wanted to make a move. Short of firing Schloss mid-season, there wasn't much else Alberts could have done.TnAg23 said:Fine, then he should have figured that out and had the coaching search going months earlier. The excuse everyone gives for hiring Earley Is how late in the game Schloss left, and how limited the options were. If he was already gone in April, the coaching search should have started in April. Hell, I'd say that if you knew for sure, then Schloss should have been fired (Or suspended if your worried about buyouts)Ag13 said:The only way Trev got himself into the situation with Schloss was by accepting the A&M AD job. Schloss was gone regardless by that point.TnAg23 said:
In baseball, he never should have gotten himself in that situation. He hadn't talked to Schloss in months prior to his departure. It should have been clear what was happening, and he should have had a succession plan in place.
I'm glad we didn't win game 3 vs Tennessee. Imagine finally winning a natty, and having the celebration immediately ruined.
Except he wasn't already gone. It's not like he had signed with the sips. What you can't understand is Schloss had all the cards. I can imagine if it leaked that Trev was offering up a job that wasn't vacant. It's be posters like you crying the loudest on here about that. I can't believe you are saying Trev should have fired or suspended Schloss before a CWS run. And that would have been over a rumor. Again, it's not like Schloss had signed with the sips until the day after the CWS was over.TnAg23 said:Fine, then he should have figured that out and had the coaching search going months earlier. The excuse everyone gives for hiring Earley Is how late in the game Schloss left, and how limited the options were. If he was already gone in April, the coaching search should have started in April. Hell, I'd say that if you knew for sure, then Schloss should have been fired (Or suspended if your worried about buyouts)Ag13 said:The only way Trev got himself into the situation with Schloss was by accepting the A&M AD job. Schloss was gone regardless by that point.TnAg23 said:
In baseball, he never should have gotten himself in that situation. He hadn't talked to Schloss in months prior to his departure. It should have been clear what was happening, and he should have had a succession plan in place.
It was a rumor for us, It should have been no such thing for our Athletic director who had no communication with the second most important coach on campus.
I disagree. I wouldn't trade the trip to Omaha for having a better replacement in place for 2025. We were 7 outs away from a national title. It would have been a downer, for sure, but I think it would have been a lot less of a blow if we'd won the thing.TnAg23 said:I he truly knew what was coming, then that's exactly what he should have done.twk said:The problem wasn't a lack of a search. The problem was the lack of an opening until June 25, at which point in time none of the top names wanted to make a move. Short of firing Schloss mid-season, there wasn't much else Alberts could have done.TnAg23 said:Fine, then he should have figured that out and had the coaching search going months earlier. The excuse everyone gives for hiring Earley Is how late in the game Schloss left, and how limited the options were. If he was already gone in April, the coaching search should have started in April. Hell, I'd say that if you knew for sure, then Schloss should have been fired (Or suspended if your worried about buyouts)Ag13 said:The only way Trev got himself into the situation with Schloss was by accepting the A&M AD job. Schloss was gone regardless by that point.TnAg23 said:
In baseball, he never should have gotten himself in that situation. He hadn't talked to Schloss in months prior to his departure. It should have been clear what was happening, and he should have had a succession plan in place.
I'm glad we didn't win game 3 vs Tennessee. Imagine finally winning a natty, and having the celebration immediately ruined.
TnAg23 said:I he truly knew what was coming, then that's exactly what he should have done.twk said:The problem wasn't a lack of a search. The problem was the lack of an opening until June 25, at which point in time none of the top names wanted to make a move. Short of firing Schloss mid-season, there wasn't much else Alberts could have done.TnAg23 said:Fine, then he should have figured that out and had the coaching search going months earlier. The excuse everyone gives for hiring Earley Is how late in the game Schloss left, and how limited the options were. If he was already gone in April, the coaching search should have started in April. Hell, I'd say that if you knew for sure, then Schloss should have been fired (Or suspended if your worried about buyouts)Ag13 said:The only way Trev got himself into the situation with Schloss was by accepting the A&M AD job. Schloss was gone regardless by that point.TnAg23 said:
In baseball, he never should have gotten himself in that situation. He hadn't talked to Schloss in months prior to his departure. It should have been clear what was happening, and he should have had a succession plan in place.
I'm glad we didn't win game 3 vs Tennessee. Imagine finally winning a natty, and having the celebration immediately ruined.
Wow
Why am I even reviewing things with someone with this mentality.
You are glad we did not win it all for such petty reasons.
I tend to discount posters on TexAgs criticizing Alberts since a chunk of that group seems to think he was the one that almost hired Mike Stoops. None of y'all know anything.
I don't blame Trev for the rushed aftermath, but I'd like to know if POS was always going to leave or how much he had a hand in the relationship deteriorating. I was never an Earley guy because we deserve more than a hitting coach no matter how much of an "up and comer" he was. But I get how limited the options were at that point but we have a chance to do things the right way now and truly judge how much Trev puts a priority on the baseball program. We either knock it out of the park with the next hire or get a just good enough hire to scrape by the next few seasons. I would rather hold on to Earley one more year and hit the coaching search hard next year. Any decent option is currently preparing for post season play and I don't think we've got the pull or Trev is prepared to throw the money out for Tier 1 coach.
MattAg06 said:
I tend to discount posters on TexAgs criticizing Alberts since a chunk of that group seems to think he was the one that almost hired Mike Stoops. None of y'all know anything.
That's even worse than Mark Stoops.
There would have been no time to celebrate. The roller coaster would have been an even higher high, and an even lower low.
I say this in retrospect. Obviously in the moment in the stands in Omaha, I would have sold the naming rights to my firstborn son for one more run.
I say this in retrospect. Obviously in the moment in the stands in Omaha, I would have sold the naming rights to my firstborn son for one more run.
twk said:The problem wasn't a lack of a search. The problem was the lack of an opening until June 25, at which point in time none of the top names wanted to make a move. Short of firing Schloss mid-season, there wasn't much else Alberts could have done.TnAg23 said:Fine, then he should have figured that out and had the coaching search going months earlier. The excuse everyone gives for hiring Earley Is how late in the game Schloss left, and how limited the options were. If he was already gone in April, the coaching search should have started in April. Hell, I'd say that if you knew for sure, then Schloss should have been fired (Or suspended if your worried about buyouts)Ag13 said:The only way Trev got himself into the situation with Schloss was by accepting the A&M AD job. Schloss was gone regardless by that point.TnAg23 said:
In baseball, he never should have gotten himself in that situation. He hadn't talked to Schloss in months prior to his departure. It should have been clear what was happening, and he should have had a succession plan in place.
I wish he could've made more of an effort to keep the rest of the staff and make Cain HC. That's the kind of contingency plan you could have had in place beginning in April/May. It's basically what TCU did and they were in a similar position to us. And TCU kept rolling.
The optics of his whole coaching staff instantly following and at the time speculating so would the players was what we messed up.
Hey Ags
Can we all agree on one thing. We better get this hire right.
Can we all agree on one thing. We better get this hire right.
With you on that oneLB12Diamond said:
Hey Ags
Can we all agree on one thing. We better get this hire right.
Hey if you want to say it would have sucked a little. That's fine. But saying you are glad we did not win it.
That's cutting off your nose to spite your face mentality.
Also, maybe Tony V actually comes here last summer if we had won it.
That's cutting off your nose to spite your face mentality.
Also, maybe Tony V actually comes here last summer if we had won it.
This is the only thing that matters.
As I understand it, they approached Cain about applying for the job and he declined, saying he was not ready. Apparently, he had a level of self awareness that Earley was lacking. Cain also was knee deep in trying to recruit players to Austin before the move was announced, so it would have been a little awkward. Earley, at least, wasn't tainted by that.Chrundle the Great said:twk said:The problem wasn't a lack of a search. The problem was the lack of an opening until June 25, at which point in time none of the top names wanted to make a move. Short of firing Schloss mid-season, there wasn't much else Alberts could have done.TnAg23 said:Fine, then he should have figured that out and had the coaching search going months earlier. The excuse everyone gives for hiring Earley Is how late in the game Schloss left, and how limited the options were. If he was already gone in April, the coaching search should have started in April. Hell, I'd say that if you knew for sure, then Schloss should have been fired (Or suspended if your worried about buyouts)Ag13 said:The only way Trev got himself into the situation with Schloss was by accepting the A&M AD job. Schloss was gone regardless by that point.TnAg23 said:
In baseball, he never should have gotten himself in that situation. He hadn't talked to Schloss in months prior to his departure. It should have been clear what was happening, and he should have had a succession plan in place.
I wish he could've made more of an effort to keep the rest of the staff and make Cain HC. That's the kind of contingency plan you could have had in place beginning in April/May. It's basically what TCU did and they were in a similar position to us. And TCU kept rolling.
The optics of his whole coaching staff instantly following and at the time speculating so would the players was what we messed up.
I'll rephrase, I'm glad that the 255 season streak without a football, basketball, or baseball championship wasn't broken only to still not enjoy the fullness of a national championship.LB12Diamond said:
Hey if you want to say it would have sucked a little. That's fine. But saying you are glad we did not win it.
That's cutting off your nose to spite your face mentality.
And I'm glad that Schloss hasn't won a championship.
I hate that Montgomery and Laviolette didn't win one.
No matter the reasons. An ag being happy we did not win it all I will never understand.
But did we ask Cain late June or mid April? Is what I'm saying.
Bc the dude continually gets caught with his pants down when it comes to coaches.
Even his track record at Nebraska was abysmal.
Even his track record at Nebraska was abysmal.
twk said:The problem wasn't a lack of a search. The problem was the lack of an opening until June 25, at which point in time none of the top names wanted to make a move. Short of firing Schloss mid-season, there wasn't much else Alberts could have done.TnAg23 said:Fine, then he should have figured that out and had the coaching search going months earlier. The excuse everyone gives for hiring Earley Is how late in the game Schloss left, and how limited the options were. If he was already gone in April, the coaching search should have started in April. Hell, I'd say that if you knew for sure, then Schloss should have been fired (Or suspended if your worried about buyouts)Ag13 said:The only way Trev got himself into the situation with Schloss was by accepting the A&M AD job. Schloss was gone regardless by that point.TnAg23 said:
In baseball, he never should have gotten himself in that situation. He hadn't talked to Schloss in months prior to his departure. It should have been clear what was happening, and he should have had a succession plan in place.
The two didn't get along, and constantly butted heads. Trev knowing this should have worked on coaching relationships. Plus when pierce got canned, everyone knew what was going to happen but Trev. The fact that he was blind sides shows he's clueless.
LB12Diamond said:
Hey if you want to say it would have sucked a little. That's fine. But saying you are glad we did not win it.
That's cutting off your nose to spite your face mentality.
Also, maybe Tony V actually comes here last summer if we had won it.
You are exactly right! That single run completely changed the destiny of Tony. Had he lost, he would be looked at as a good coach who recruits well, gets to the Show, but cannot close the deal. Leaving for A&M would have most Tennessee fans going, "Meh" about it as it's only baseball.
That single run elevated him to mini-Manning status here. UT is putting 100 million into a stadium upgrade giving him major input into how it is designed. He is now, by contract, the highest paid college baseball coach in America. He regularly goes boating with Morgan Wallen and Peyton and never pays for a meal.
Yup, that single run forever changed the fates of A&M and Tennessee baseball.
Oh, what could have been....
I guess we will never know.
But wow man. Are you really that sensitive for my statement to set you off like this.
But wow man. Are you really that sensitive for my statement to set you off like this.
Good catch. See, I don't know anything either!LB12Diamond said:MattAg06 said:
I tend to discount posters on TexAgs criticizing Alberts since a chunk of that group seems to think he was the one that almost hired Mike Stoops. None of y'all know anything.
That's even worse than Mark Stoops.
LB12Diamond said:
I guess we will never know.
But wow man. Are you really that sensitive for my statement to set you off like this.
Not at all. Sorry it came off that way. I was trying to present it as a life changing event for Tony V. and the explosive growth of the small Tennessee baseball fan base. I just found it remarkable what that single win means to UT's baseball future.
How could they have "constantly butted heads" when Trev was only on the job a month or two when Schloss decided to leave? Fact is, Schloss wouldn't meet with Trev. Trev wasn't blindsided--he heard from Liucci, if from no one else, that Schloss intended to leave. Trev tried to get Schloss to come clean and address the issues, but Schloss pretended nothing was happening.IslanderAg04 said:twk said:The problem wasn't a lack of a search. The problem was the lack of an opening until June 25, at which point in time none of the top names wanted to make a move. Short of firing Schloss mid-season, there wasn't much else Alberts could have done.TnAg23 said:Fine, then he should have figured that out and had the coaching search going months earlier. The excuse everyone gives for hiring Earley Is how late in the game Schloss left, and how limited the options were. If he was already gone in April, the coaching search should have started in April. Hell, I'd say that if you knew for sure, then Schloss should have been fired (Or suspended if your worried about buyouts)Ag13 said:The only way Trev got himself into the situation with Schloss was by accepting the A&M AD job. Schloss was gone regardless by that point.TnAg23 said:
In baseball, he never should have gotten himself in that situation. He hadn't talked to Schloss in months prior to his departure. It should have been clear what was happening, and he should have had a succession plan in place.
The two didn't get along, and constantly butted heads. Trev knowing this should have worked on coaching relationships. Plus when pierce got canned, everyone knew what was going to happen but Trev. The fact that he was blind sides shows he's clueless.
You can try to make Alberts the scapegoat all you want, but the fact is that Schloss and CDC set out to screw us, and there wasn't a whole lot that could be done to counter that, short of blowing up the season.
Aggie's being Aggies.
I'm just hoping there is a hire. Not convinced Trev is going to admit his mistake and move.LB12Diamond said:
Hey Ags
Can we all agree on one thing. We better get this hire right.
You and me both. But speaking from experience, don't ask for any receipts from those who are already convinced Earley is gone.deh40 said:
I'm just hoping there is a hire. Not convinced Trev is going to admit his mistake and move.
twk said:How could they have "constantly butted heads" when Trev was only on the job a month or two when Schloss decided to leave? Fact is, Schloss wouldn't meet with Trev. Trev wasn't blindsided--he heard from Liucci, if from no one else, that Schloss intended to leave. Trev tried to get Schloss to come clean and address the issues, but Schloss pretended nothing was happening.IslanderAg04 said:twk said:The problem wasn't a lack of a search. The problem was the lack of an opening until June 25, at which point in time none of the top names wanted to make a move. Short of firing Schloss mid-season, there wasn't much else Alberts could have done.TnAg23 said:Fine, then he should have figured that out and had the coaching search going months earlier. The excuse everyone gives for hiring Earley Is how late in the game Schloss left, and how limited the options were. If he was already gone in April, the coaching search should have started in April. Hell, I'd say that if you knew for sure, then Schloss should have been fired (Or suspended if your worried about buyouts)Ag13 said:The only way Trev got himself into the situation with Schloss was by accepting the A&M AD job. Schloss was gone regardless by that point.TnAg23 said:
In baseball, he never should have gotten himself in that situation. He hadn't talked to Schloss in months prior to his departure. It should have been clear what was happening, and he should have had a succession plan in place.
The two didn't get along, and constantly butted heads. Trev knowing this should have worked on coaching relationships. Plus when pierce got canned, everyone knew what was going to happen but Trev. The fact that he was blind sides shows he's clueless.
You can try to make Alberts the scapegoat all you want, but the fact is that Schloss and CDC set out to screw us, and there wasn't a whole lot that could be done to counter that, short of blowing up the season.
I'm not in any way goal tending for Schlos, he's a piece of ****, but Trev didnt really convey a good relationship by firing staff from underneath him and telling him "it's ok to move on". When Mike Buddie didn't get hired, Trev didnt really do himself any favors to the one program that was winning.
Considering the Frost **** show, i dont even know why we interviewed him. Like Schlos, Trev doesnt really have the greatest reputation. They both equally suck.
I'm with you. Trev Albert's reputation around the college sports world (media and otherwise) is not good. His reputation as a jackass is well earned.
Just look at how he "left" ESPN. He stopped showing up for work because he was jealous of how the tier one talent on College Gameday was treated versus how he was.
He was managed to piss off (and run off) two head coaches here (and yes both of them had their issues I am well aware) and at least one other prominent head coach still on staff here doesn't have much positive to say about him. In fact I haven't heard any coach say anything all that positive about Trev.... although I will admit that I haven't checked in with the women's equestrian staff.
Just look at how he "left" ESPN. He stopped showing up for work because he was jealous of how the tier one talent on College Gameday was treated versus how he was.
He was managed to piss off (and run off) two head coaches here (and yes both of them had their issues I am well aware) and at least one other prominent head coach still on staff here doesn't have much positive to say about him. In fact I haven't heard any coach say anything all that positive about Trev.... although I will admit that I haven't checked in with the women's equestrian staff.
Blame the people that hired Trev. Not Trev bc Schloss has mad they did not go with the guy he wanted from Navy.
If you really want to place blame. Place it there bc if Schloss got the AD he wanted who just so happened to have a background in baseball maybe he never entertains CDC.
But I do know as TWK has said, there was nothing Trev could do. The only reason we knew something was up bc they started recruiting HS kids to Texas and that got back to us.
If you really want to place blame. Place it there bc if Schloss got the AD he wanted who just so happened to have a background in baseball maybe he never entertains CDC.
But I do know as TWK has said, there was nothing Trev could do. The only reason we knew something was up bc they started recruiting HS kids to Texas and that got back to us.
What head coach here has talked bad about Trev? I don't think I've seen anything of that sorts, but I may just have missed it.
"Talked bad about" vs "nothing positive to say" are slightly different but only because some people are a little old school about airing dirty laundry in public.DaAggies said:
What head coach here has talked bad about Trev? I don't think I've seen anything of that sorts, but I may just have missed it.
But you can start with asking the coaches that have actually won a national title if they are happy with everything that they get from the AD. Pat Henry has no problem telling you when he is annoyed with something.
I'm curious why people keep saying that we weren't prepared when Buzz left or are blaming it solely on Trev.
We were never going to fire Buzz and only were going to make a change if he left on his own accord. That left us in a weird place where we couldn't fully negotiate and have a coach in place unless Buzz went to Maryland. Best we could do is garner interest and trim our list down.
It felt like we had that plan in place. We made a run at Beard because he reciprocated interest and only didn't get him once Ole Miss offered him the massive raise and they actually had a roster to come back to.
After Beard, we had our list of candidates and went through a more formal interview process. That process went by relatively quick compared to many coaching searches and we settled on Bucky as the target.
We were never going to fire Buzz and only were going to make a change if he left on his own accord. That left us in a weird place where we couldn't fully negotiate and have a coach in place unless Buzz went to Maryland. Best we could do is garner interest and trim our list down.
It felt like we had that plan in place. We made a run at Beard because he reciprocated interest and only didn't get him once Ole Miss offered him the massive raise and they actually had a roster to come back to.
After Beard, we had our list of candidates and went through a more formal interview process. That process went by relatively quick compared to many coaching searches and we settled on Bucky as the target.
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