Who does USC start vs TSU?

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Tailgate88 said:

I didn't watch the second game, we had dinner plans. If they didn't throw their Friday guy anticipating they would be playing us today, now what? Save him again for tomorrow? I guess we'll find out later today?

They have to throw him today. They have to win this game. I suppose they could choose not to, but I don't think they will. There's no tomorrow if they lose.
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ensign_beedrill said:

Tailgate88 said:

I didn't watch the second game, we had dinner plans. If they didn't throw their Friday guy anticipating they would be playing us today, now what? Save him again for tomorrow? I guess we'll find out later today?

They have to throw him today. They have to win this game. I suppose they could choose not to, but I didn't think they will. There's no tomorrow if they lose.


That's what I was thinking and hoping.
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I still think I would throw off to start against Lamar but the starter won't have much of a leash. You tell Edwards he may have to come out of the pen if their #3 is getting hit around.
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fightintxag13 said:

I still think I would throw off to start against Lamar but the starter won't have much of a leash. You tell Edwards he may have to come out of the pen if their #3 is getting hit around.


Their #3 went an inning and 2/3 last night so not sure he's getting the start today.
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W said:

yep, yep, yep

pitching off is reserved for 1-seeds -- not 2's and 3's
Depends on roster construction and matchups. You're playing to win a regional, not just 1 or 2 games.I think you always want to give yourself the best chance to go 2-0, because it is so much harder to get through the loser's bracket, especially with a thin pitching staff.

As a 2 or 3 seed, you are already more likely to lose given your start the regional playing a better team, but you're already starting the regional off with a sub-30% (maybe even sub-20%) chance of winning it (1 seeds are typically 50-80%).

I think USC was dumb for pitching off because they have 2 good pitchers and they threw the slightly worse guy with a propensity to give up long balls vs a team that primarily scores via HR. If they advanced to play us, we are cobbling together a pitching staff.

I think it makes more sense for a team like UCSB to throw off. While you increase your chance of losing game 1, you increase your chance of going 2-0. Hell, if I am coaching them now, I probably throw my number 3 guy in hopes he can beat holy cross and save my ace for the loser of Texans/sips.
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themissinglink said:

Hell, if I am coaching them now, I probably throw my number 3 guy in hopes he can beat holy cross and save my ace for the loser of Texans/sips.

Me to, problem is, if you lose you went out without your best player playing and will have to answer to the media. Hindsight is always 20/20 even if it is the statistical was to play it.
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I would throw my number 3 against Lamar and empty out the bullpen behind him if I had to.
The only shot USC ever had was to save Edwards for either A&M or now, as it turns out, the loser of tonight's A&M-TxSt game.
If they burn Edwards today with a lengthy outing...who is pitching next?
But then again...A&M pitching is a crapshoot from this point onward anyways.
So these games will probably now devolve into slugging contests.
Here's hoping Sims is good to go...he's been out a while.
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I think you have to double down on the idea. You always took the risk and it bit you. Start Andrew Johnson (6-2, 3.44 ERA) against the 4 seed. He's better than what we threw against Lamar yesterday.
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Sean98 said:

I think you have to double down on the idea. You always took the risk and it bit you. Start Andrew Johnson (6-2, 3.44 ERA) against the 4 seed. He's better than what we threw against Lamar yesterday.


Johnson pitched last night. Can he start this afternoon?
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Well, shame on me. I watched via squeeze play and hadn't looked at the Box. How many pitches??

Either way, probably not.
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Lamar has enough pitching to make its way through the loser's bracket. I think USC is best throwing their ace today and then hoping they can win a bunch of slugfests. A long shot either way.
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and that's the challenge with risk

there is low risk...moderate risk...high risk...controlled risk...uncontrolled risk...and so forth

holding the ace was not low risk strategy
 
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