New pitching coach discussion

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Domingo Backsplash
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That's hard to argue with.
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Domingo Backsplash said:

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Justice Beaver said:

Weiner's name discussed on the Kelly thread…

FTR I do NOT want that traitorous ******** back. BUT, you absolutely have to float this rumor and try to get it to grow some legs this week leading up to and during the supers if you're the AD and Earley.

He is not traitorous. When your coach asks you to go with him to his new job, you go. Not even up for debate. If you don't, you end up with no job.

Yep. Hiring Weiner back would be a great get in my opinion.

I'm struggling with this scenario. On one hand I'd like to screw over schloss and the sips in any way possible. On the other hand, Weiner seems fine with the company he is keeping; which speaks to his character. I would feel better about it if he came here and it sent tu reeling and they cried publicly and he said something along the lines of "I had to get away from that toxic sob and that liberal cesspool"......one can dream

I can argue either side here. On one hand, if the stories are true, he is one of the guys that Schloss told about the move weeks before it happened, which speaks to his character in a bad way.

On the other hand, I would have gone to Austin as well, if I were in his shoes. He couldn't just stay in Aggieland and hope that the new HC chooses to keep him. If he did that, he might have just wound up sitting at home in September with no job. He took the guaranteed job with a huge paycheck at one of the better baseball schools in the nation.
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Even Earley went to Austin, initially, for the same reason. I don't hold it against him.
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ensign_beedrill said:

Even Earley went to Austin, initially, for the same reason. I don't hold it against him.

For sure, and I lean towards the argument that there's no hard feelings towards Max. But I can understand where the other side comes from. Within hours, we were hearing rumors that Earley was distressed by the whole situation but was forced to go with the flow. Never heard that Max's conscience was bothered by the whole thing.

Again, I mostly only hold it against Schloss. But we're kinda being fools if we think Max would want to come back anyway. Earley's job is just as unstable as it was 23 months ago, and Max has a trifecta right now in Austin: Good pay, good talent, and a stable position. He'd be giving up the stability to come back here, and texas will raise his salary if we try to money dump on him.

It's a fun convo but I don't think there's any legs to it.
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How do you know this?
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austinag1997 said:

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That's not exactly what happened. Weiner practically led the charge to Austin.

LOL riiiiiggght!


He is correct.

Absolutely!

Weiner- "hey Schloss, I know you're buddies with Del Conte (or whatever that ******'s name is) and he's probably going to offer you the texas job. I know you are just thinking about it, but let's go!

Schloss- "yeah, you're right. I kinda wanna stay at A&M but if you think this is a good move I will go."
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austinag1997 said:

AggieBB said:

Justice Beaver said:

Weiner's name discussed on the Kelly thread…

FTR I do NOT want that traitorous ******** back. BUT, you absolutely have to float this rumor and try to get it to grow some legs this week leading up to and during the supers if you're the AD and Earley.

He is not traitorous. When your coach asks you to go with him to his new job, you go. Not even up for debate. If you don't, you end up with no job.


He was in on it during the CWS final. He and traitor were tied at the hip. He won't be returning.

Ummm, yeah. That's what I said. When you're head coach accepts a new job and asks you to go with him, you go.

But just fyi everybody will eventually get tired of schlos*****le. It's been happening his entire life. And Weiner and Earley are buddies too. Soon as he gets fed up with schlos*****le, he's gone. Are we there yet? Who knows?
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Yeah, not going to lie. If we don't get someone soon I'm really going to start worrying about who we can get out of the portal from a pitching perspective (I know we only 5 days in)
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Our guy is coaching in the super regional this weekend… probably won't be available till after next week.
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Alpha Texan said:

Again, I mostly only hold it against Schloss. But we're kinda being fools if we think Max would want to come back anyway. Earley's job is just as unstable as it was 23 months ago, and Max has a trifecta right now in Austin: Good pay, good talent, and a stable position. He'd be giving up the stability to come back here, and texas will raise his salary if we try to money dump on him.

It's a fun convo but I don't think there's any legs to it.

Thats the funny part. The number of people on the board with Aggie colored glasses thinking there is chance he is coming to A&M. Weiner has a better HC and will likely win a WS before A&M does. At this rate I would be willing to bet Weiner wins a WS before A&M even makes it back to Omaha. He has more NIL money and will have better facilities soon. Even if A&M were to offer him more money t.u. is likely to match. So not a chance he would be an option for A&M. So mad at him or not he gone!!!
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I was told that Max was caught off guard and he had to go along. I was told Max was trying to anchor roots in college station because he figured to be here multiple years and Schloss used that to his advantage. Mortgage burden is hard to pay without a job… just what the FIL told me
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Joe Deertay said:

I was told that Max was caught off guard and he had to go along. I was told Max was trying to anchor roots in college station because he figured to be here multiple years and Schloss used that to his advantage. Mortgage burden is hard to pay without a job… just what the FIL told me

That could be true, I have no insider knowledge. I thought the story was that he was one of the coaches that began early recruiting of our guys to Austin but maybe I'm misremembering and maybe the story is just wrong. Either way, he was just doing what he has to for his career and to keep a fancy roof over his head, like you said. What Schloss did crosses a line. What the others did is just the dirty politics of a nasty industry.
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Alpha Texan said:

Joe Deertay said:

I was told that Max was caught off guard and he had to go along. I was told Max was trying to anchor roots in college station because he figured to be here multiple years and Schloss used that to his advantage. Mortgage burden is hard to pay without a job… just what the FIL told me

That could be true, I have no insider knowledge. I thought the story was that he was one of the coaches that began early recruiting of our guys to Austin but maybe I'm misremembering and maybe the story is just wrong. Either way, he was just doing what he has to for his career and to keep a fancy roof over his head, like you said. What Schloss did crosses a line. What the others did is just the dirty politics of a nasty industry.


I could be misinformed but I do remember hearing Weiner was one of the guys texting from burners to recruit guys to tu before Dewshnagle announced he was leaving. But Nolan Cain was 100% one of the one's accused of doing it.
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TarponChaser said:




Los Angeles to Beaumont

The minute he gets off that plane and the June humidity hits him ….

Actually he's spent a big part of his career in SE Texas and Southern Louisiana so he'll adjust

Good hire for Lamar
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Just think of the tax relief he's getting!
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According to his bio he played at UH and was Pierce's PC at sip and Tulane. He was probably trying to get back to this part of the country.
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You aren't misinformed. That was true from what I hear. But I think he was pressured to get his guys to follow him. I will say this, there was a lot of threats to release said texts… but non got released.. maybe a reason for that…. Idk.. but a guy who is planning on jumping ship doesn't buy an expensive house unless he is planning on sticking around for a bit. I could be misinformed, but.. idk
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Joe Deertay said:

You aren't misinformed. That was true from what I hear. But I think he was pressured to get his guys to follow him. I will say this, there was a lot of threats to release said texts… but non got released.. maybe a reason for that…. Idk.. but a guy who is planning on jumping ship doesn't buy an expensive house unless he is planning on sticking around for a bit. I could be misinformed, but.. idk
The night before the CWS final, I had dinner at an Italian place. Max and his fiance were at the next table and seemed rather subdued. Ted Burton's dad came over to their table and was just gushing about how much Ted enjoyed A&M. Max did not have a lot to say.
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That can't be!

Del Conte didnt reqch out about the job until the Tuesday after the CWS!
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LesterHaze said:


Earley is no longer considered a head coach in good standing long term. He has 24 months left on his contract, with a buyout that is reduced to just $1 million in 12 months. Attracting a quality pitching coach under these circumstances will be difficult, and nobody knows this better than the college coaching community. Especially when a significant roster rebuild is required to accomplish meaningful things in 2027.

I'm guessing Earley's agent has already come at Trev Alberts, claiming that hiring, recruiting and NIL fund raising will be next to impossible without an immediate extension.

Tough spot.


He gets an extension but with a buyout in our favor. If he is scared of that then can his ass now.



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Joe Deertay said:

I was told that Max was caught off guard and he had to go along. I was told Max was trying to anchor roots in college station because he figured to be here multiple years and Schloss used that to his advantage. Mortgage burden is hard to pay without a job… just what the FIL told me


Not correct. He was actively recruiting our pitchers and they were the first group to say they were staying.

He did have a house here but it sold quickly.
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Joe Deertay said:

Our guy is coaching in the super regional this weekend… probably won't be available till after next week.

Do you know who or just he's coaching this weekend? What if they go to Omaha?
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In that neighborhood it would lol. I'm not saying he wasn't recruiting our pitchers. But I do know he was caught off guard, but what do you do? Take a pay raise or go jobless? I still blame him and hold disdain, but I do believe his hands were tied.

He most certainly knew going into the super at least.
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twk said:

Joe Deertay said:

You aren't misinformed. That was true from what I hear. But I think he was pressured to get his guys to follow him. I will say this, there was a lot of threats to release said texts… but non got released.. maybe a reason for that…. Idk.. but a guy who is planning on jumping ship doesn't buy an expensive house unless he is planning on sticking around for a bit. I could be misinformed, but.. idk
The night before the CWS final, I had dinner at an Italian place. Max and his fiance were at the next table and seemed rather subdued. Ted Burton's dad came over to their table and was just gushing about how much Ted enjoyed A&M. Max did not have a lot to say.


Side bar, I met Ted Burton last fall in Manhattan; I was walking my dog wearing my A&M hat and he introduced himself to me. Really nice guy.
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No insider knowledge here. Didn't the broadcasts in 2024 occasionally talk about Weiner being in a military family or having a family member in the military? I would think a military tie bodes well for A&M relative to the school in Austin. But again, this is me speculating.
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epozehl said:

No insider knowledge here. Didn't the broadcasts in 2024 occasionally talk about Weiner being in a military family or having a family member in the military? I would think a military tie bodes well for A&M relative to the school in Austin. But again, this is me speculating.


Some people that grew up in that scenario absolutely hated it, and make a point to get as far away from it as they can, as soon as they can.
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trouble said:

Joe Deertay said:

I was told that Max was caught off guard and he had to go along. I was told Max was trying to anchor roots in college station because he figured to be here multiple years and Schloss used that to his advantage. Mortgage burden is hard to pay without a job… just what the FIL told me


Not correct. He was actively recruiting our pitchers and they were the first group to say they were staying.

He did have a house here but it sold quickly.


How folks forget or are obtuse to this amazes me. He will not be welcome at A&M again.
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Just an interesting fact. This kid can't hit 90 but lives low. Our problems were typically mistakes high in the zone. I know it's big 12 baseball, and you just don't see slower righties like this in the SEC, but WV is probably going to make it to Omaha in a wide open bracket.
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TAMU1990 said:



Just an interesting fact. This kid can't hit 90 but lives low. Our problems were typically mistakes high in the zone. I know it's big 12 baseball, and you just don't see slower righties like this in the SEC, but WV is probably going to make it to Omaha in a wide open bracket.


Thats what my dad taught me to do and it worked!
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Tennessee has hired East Carolina pitching coach Austin Knight for the same role in Knoxville
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It feels like it's taking too long but that's also because I'm antsy
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If you want someone whose season is still going you're gonna have to wait... Or pivot
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TAMU1990 said:



Just an interesting fact. This kid can't hit 90 but lives low. Our problems were typically mistakes high in the zone. I know it's big 12 baseball, and you just don't see slower righties like this in the SEC, but WV is probably going to make it to Omaha in a wide open bracket.
With that arm slot you're not going to live up in the zone much. And he also faced one of the worst lineups in the country. They have one real bat in their lineup.
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Chase Van Dyk. He is a rising star. One of the most knowledgeable and hard working PCs I have ever known. Totally dedicated to his craft and someday soon will be a D1 PC. But he is only 26 yrs old and in his first season as PC for Blinn. This would be an awfully big jump for him
 
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