DaAggies said:

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Longley was the sips hitting coach and recruiting coordinator under Pierce before being hired by Earley.

You may be thinking of Will Fox who was a smaller assistant/analyst at A&M during Schloss' tenure and was promoted to our infield defense coach before being replaced by Pennington.

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DaAggies said:

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AgRyan04 said:

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TarponChaser said:

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C.O.F. said:

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Same could be said for the Pennington hire last year. You would have more than likely said no way why would Pennington leave now for A&M for a coach who might be fired at the end of the year. He was a very hot commodity and had turned down other offers. Also not apples to apples entirely but plenty of coaches have changed pitching coaches after two years and gone on to be successful. Weiner was a name the average fan did not know until he was hired then we started hearing about what others in the industry were saying. Continue to be a Debbie downer though if that fulfills you.

***apparently I clicked the wrong user name. This was supposed to be in response to the poster who wicked good Ag replied too***

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As I recall, when Dewshnagle brought in Weiner there were more than a few folks like "who is this guy? He's too young and never been a PC at the college level and pros are way different than college."

Just some perspective on the matter.

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True, but there was also a proven track record of making good asst coach hires to lean back on

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Well his first pitching coach at A&M wasn't exactly a homerun, and he was working with a better time frame and more connections than Earley had with his first hires.

It sounds like we are close to the end of the process with the hire. Let's just wait and see who it is before making up our minds and realize this board really isn't great about predicting the success of coaches regardless of sport and position.

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AgRyan04 said:

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DaAggies said:

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AgRyan04 said:

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TarponChaser said:

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C.O.F. said:

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Same could be said for the Pennington hire last year. You would have more than likely said no way why would Pennington leave now for A&M for a coach who might be fired at the end of the year. He was a very hot commodity and had turned down other offers. Also not apples to apples entirely but plenty of coaches have changed pitching coaches after two years and gone on to be successful. Weiner was a name the average fan did not know until he was hired then we started hearing about what others in the industry were saying. Continue to be a Debbie downer though if that fulfills you.

***apparently I clicked the wrong user name. This was supposed to be in response to the poster who wicked good Ag replied too***

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As I recall, when Dewshnagle brought in Weiner there were more than a few folks like "who is this guy? He's too young and never been a PC at the college level and pros are way different than college."

Just some perspective on the matter.

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True, but there was also a proven track record of making good asst coach hires to lean back on

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Well his first pitching coach at A&M wasn't exactly a homerun, and he was working with a better time frame and more connections than Earley had with his first hires.

It sounds like we are close to the end of the process with the hire. Let's just wait and see who it is before making up our minds and realize this board really isn't great about predicting the success of coaches regardless of sport and position.

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Yeskie was a big time hire....he just wasn't as good here as he was a Oregon State.

But irregardless, my point was that Schloss hiring an unknown to fans type guy is going to get a lot more lieniency than Earley hiring an off the radar name because of Schloss's historical track record with hiring of assistants.

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AggieNattie said:

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Brauny says we're down to 3 names. 2 pro and 1 college

I'm speculating that Mike McFerran (Royals pitching assistant) might possibly be one of those 3. Would be a sneaky good hire

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Luigi Vampa said:

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TarponChaser said:

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AgRyan04 said:

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DaAggies said:

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AgRyan04 said:

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TarponChaser said:

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C.O.F. said:

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Same could be said for the Pennington hire last year. You would have more than likely said no way why would Pennington leave now for A&M for a coach who might be fired at the end of the year. He was a very hot commodity and had turned down other offers. Also not apples to apples entirely but plenty of coaches have changed pitching coaches after two years and gone on to be successful. Weiner was a name the average fan did not know until he was hired then we started hearing about what others in the industry were saying. Continue to be a Debbie downer though if that fulfills you.

***apparently I clicked the wrong user name. This was supposed to be in response to the poster who wicked good Ag replied too***

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As I recall, when Dewshnagle brought in Weiner there were more than a few folks like "who is this guy? He's too young and never been a PC at the college level and pros are way different than college."

Just some perspective on the matter.

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True, but there was also a proven track record of making good asst coach hires to lean back on

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Well his first pitching coach at A&M wasn't exactly a homerun, and he was working with a better time frame and more connections than Earley had with his first hires.

It sounds like we are close to the end of the process with the hire. Let's just wait and see who it is before making up our minds and realize this board really isn't great about predicting the success of coaches regardless of sport and position.

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Yeskie was a big time hire....he just wasn't as good here as he was a Oregon State.

But irregardless, my point was that Schloss hiring an unknown to fans type guy is going to get a lot more lieniency than Earley hiring an off the radar name because of Schloss's historical track record with hiring of assistants.

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That's a fair point but Kelly was seen as a big time hire who had an excellent resume.

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No, it was never a splash hire. Texags mods may have talked it up, nobody else did. It was a middle of the road hire all along, and thats what it turned out to be.

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trouble said:

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He got that ginger temper

In 2011 while he was pitching for the Reno Aces, Enright threw a pitch behind Josh Donaldson of the Sacramento River Cats (who tagged Enright for a home run in the game earlier) and was promptly ejected along with Donaldson as the benches and bullpens cleared.

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htownag08 said:

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It's a good opportunity for anyone.

Literally no where to go but up on pitching performance.At an SEC school. New facilities on the way.

Resume builder whether it's one year and they move on (for one reason or another) or it all works and you are now established at TAMU.

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BigCityCold said:

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Aggie_Fire said:

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I think Barry Enright from the A's would be a great hire!

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Prophetic!! What can you tell us about him that really stands out as a great hire?

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Faustus said:

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htownag08 said:

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It's a good opportunity for anyone.

Literally no where to go but up on pitching performance.At an SEC school. New facilities on the way.

Resume builder whether it's one year and they move on (for one reason or another) or it all works and you are now established at TAMU.

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Definitely lots of room to improve, but this isn't really true.

A&M finished 84th in ERA, 48th in WHIP, and 1st in walks allowed nationally out of 304 teams.

NCAA College Baseball DI current team Stats | NCAA.com

By comparison OU with their heralded staff clocks in at 78th, 43rd, and 48th in those stats respectively (but the link indicates the NCAA is still updating the stats through the playoffs).

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TarponChaser said:

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Faustus said:

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htownag08 said:

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It's a good opportunity for anyone.

Literally no where to go but up on pitching performance.At an SEC school. New facilities on the way.

Resume builder whether it's one year and they move on (for one reason or another) or it all works and you are now established at TAMU.

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Definitely lots of room to improve, but this isn't really true.

A&M finished 84th in ERA, 48th in WHIP, and 1st in walks allowed nationally out of 304 teams.

NCAA College Baseball DI current team Stats | NCAA.com

By comparison OU with their heralded staff clocks in at 78th, 43rd, and 48th in those stats respectively (but the link indicates the NCAA is still updating the stats through the playoffs).

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The biggest thing for me, and I think a lot of have discussed it, is the general inability of Sdao & Moss to consistently finish hitters when ahead in the count.

How many times did they get up 0-2 or 1-2 and then get into an even or 3-2 count? Or worse, be in that 0-2/1-2 count and hang a cement mixer over the middle of the plate? I don't think you can sort the stats for this without going and charting every single AB over the season but it felt like it happened a lot.

That speaks to a lack of mental toughness & focus on the part of the pitching staff.

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TarponChaser said:

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Faustus said:

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htownag08 said:

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It's a good opportunity for anyone.

Literally no where to go but up on pitching performance.At an SEC school. New facilities on the way.

Resume builder whether it's one year and they move on (for one reason or another) or it all works and you are now established at TAMU.

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Definitely lots of room to improve, but this isn't really true.

A&M finished 84th in ERA, 48th in WHIP, and 1st in walks allowed nationally out of 304 teams.

NCAA College Baseball DI current team Stats | NCAA.com

By comparison OU with their heralded staff clocks in at 78th, 43rd, and 48th in those stats respectively (but the link indicates the NCAA is still updating the stats through the playoffs).

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The biggest thing for me, and I think a lot of have discussed it, is the general inability of Sdao & Moss to consistently finish hitters when ahead in the count.

How many times did they get up 0-2 or 1-2 and then get into an even or 3-2 count? Or worse, be in that 0-2/1-2 count and hang a cement mixer over the middle of the plate? I don't think you can sort the stats for this without going and charting every single AB over the season but it felt like it happened a lot.

That speaks to a lack of mental toughness & focus on the part of the pitching staff.

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MSFC Aggie said:

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TarponChaser said:

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Faustus said:

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htownag08 said:

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It's a good opportunity for anyone.

Literally no where to go but up on pitching performance.At an SEC school. New facilities on the way.

Resume builder whether it's one year and they move on (for one reason or another) or it all works and you are now established at TAMU.

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Definitely lots of room to improve, but this isn't really true.

A&M finished 84th in ERA, 48th in WHIP, and 1st in walks allowed nationally out of 304 teams.

NCAA College Baseball DI current team Stats | NCAA.com

By comparison OU with their heralded staff clocks in at 78th, 43rd, and 48th in those stats respectively (but the link indicates the NCAA is still updating the stats through the playoffs).

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The biggest thing for me, and I think a lot of have discussed it, is the general inability of Sdao & Moss to consistently finish hitters when ahead in the count.

How many times did they get up 0-2 or 1-2 and then get into an even or 3-2 count? Or worse, be in that 0-2/1-2 count and hang a cement mixer over the middle of the plate? I don't think you can sort the stats for this without going and charting every single AB over the season but it felt like it happened a lot.

That speaks to a lack of mental toughness & focus on the part of the pitching staff.

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While watching the regionals and supers, I notice a lot of hangers getting jacked out of the park. So this isn't something unique to Aggie pitchers. Maybe it's just the talent level of the pitcher with locating pitches. Some dudes are better at it than others (see Aschenbeck). Even dudes in the pros throw hangers.

Serious question....is locating pitches something that can be taught, or is it the talent level of the pitcher.....or both?

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hunter2012 said:

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TarponChaser said:

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Faustus said:

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htownag08 said:

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It's a good opportunity for anyone.

Literally no where to go but up on pitching performance.At an SEC school. New facilities on the way.

Resume builder whether it's one year and they move on (for one reason or another) or it all works and you are now established at TAMU.

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Definitely lots of room to improve, but this isn't really true.

A&M finished 84th in ERA, 48th in WHIP, and 1st in walks allowed nationally out of 304 teams.

NCAA College Baseball DI current team Stats | NCAA.com

By comparison OU with their heralded staff clocks in at 78th, 43rd, and 48th in those stats respectively (but the link indicates the NCAA is still updating the stats through the playoffs).

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The biggest thing for me, and I think a lot of have discussed it, is the general inability of Sdao & Moss to consistently finish hitters when ahead in the count.

How many times did they get up 0-2 or 1-2 and then get into an even or 3-2 count? Or worse, be in that 0-2/1-2 count and hang a cement mixer over the middle of the plate? I don't think you can sort the stats for this without going and charting every single AB over the season but it felt like it happened a lot.

That speaks to a lack of mental toughness & focus on the part of the pitching staff.

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I'd bet easily >75% of our given up homers were with 2 strikes. No pitcher had an out pitch. We'd get a favorable count and lob a meatball for the out pitch.

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