A big part of me wishes Weiner and Earley would return the favor to that colossal POS and work a deal during their stay in Omaha
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adbono said:
Chase Van Dyk. He is a rising star. One of the most knowledgeable and hard working PCs I have ever known. Totally dedicated to his craft and someday soon will be a D1 PC. But he is only 26 yrs old and in his first season as PC for Blinn. This would be an awfully big jump for him
lol
……..
There are two scenarios at this point.
1) Earley has his guy and we are waiting for them to lose
2) Next year will be the end of the Earley era.
1) Earley has his guy and we are waiting for them to lose
2) Next year will be the end of the Earley era.
Dang. Was hoping it would be able to be announced tonight.
Joe Deertay said:
Dang. Was hoping it would be able to be announced tonight.
They are simply waiting for a live episode of the B Team.
SABUILDERAG said:
There are two scenarios at this point.
1) Earley has his guy and we are waiting for them to lose
2) Next year will be the end of the Earley era.
They aren't mutually exclusive
The sooner you all realize that this is going to be a difficult and underwhelming hire, the better. It is not appealing to anyone with any credentials to take a job for a head coach who looks to be on his last leg and who just had to sacrifice his last pitching coach to save face and possibly his job.
adbono said:
Chase Van Dyk. He is a rising star. One of the most knowledgeable and hard working PCs I have ever known. Totally dedicated to his craft and someday soon will be a D1 PC. But he is only 26 yrs old and in his first season as PC for Blinn. This would be an awfully big jump for him
JuCo bats, to SEC bats.
Big jump is an understatement.
Maximum truth to this statement!
I don't think our case is as weak as you guys are making it out to be. Of course I'm always glass half full. Earley has 4 years of proof that he can coach the bats and our defense was competitive. We just need somebody that is confident in his abilities. With fan support, recruiting territory and upgraded facilities we've gotta be top 15 to 20 in the country. Maybe I'm selling it to the next coach, but I haven't given up on Earley yet.
Domingo Backsplash said:
I don't think our case is as weak as you guys are making it out to be. Of course I'm always glass half full. Earley has 4 years of proof that he can coach the bats and our defense was competitive. We just need somebody that is confident in his abilities. With fan support, recruiting territory and upgraded facilities we've gotta be top 15 to 20 in the country. Maybe I'm selling it to the next coach, but I haven't given up on Earley yet.
His position last year was much more precarious. I didn't think he could get Pennington, even with the A&M connection, but he did, and that made a huge difference. I think an up and coming pitching coach could see this as a path to bigger things, with a lot of upside. I wouldn't completely rule out a really established guy, but that would not seem to be the most likely hire.
Maybe already discussed, but where do those with knowledge think we stand right now? Is an offer already out, but the guy is with one of the last 8 standing? Are we pursuing someone from MLB? Are we chasing guys and getting told no?
12th Man Ag said:
Maybe already discussed, but where do those with knowledge think we stand right now? Is an offer already out, but the guy is with one of the last 8 standing? Are we pursuing someone from MLB? Are we chasing guys and getting told no?
Unless it's one of the last 8 standing (7 since we know tu isn't an option), this isn't a good sign that we know so little about the search
cevans_40 said:
The sooner you all realize that this is going to be a difficult and underwhelming hire, the better. It is not appealing to anyone with any credentials to take a job for a head coach who looks to be on his last leg and who just had to sacrifice his last pitching coach to save face and possibly his job.
and i would argue that outside of TAMU and its fans that his job looks much safer on the national scale compared to what Texags thinks...
Not saying anything but I dont think most people outside of Texags has him on an extreme hot seat
Probably has been discussed 100 times in here, just tired of reading through 1000s of messages before noon… but should we be expecting a hire before the end of the week?
Not complaining about the time from between letting Kelly go and hiring someone new, just curious if anyone has some info on the timeline here.
Not complaining about the time from between letting Kelly go and hiring someone new, just curious if anyone has some info on the timeline here.
I'm not expecting one
cevans_40 said:
The sooner you all realize that this is going to be a difficult and underwhelming hire, the better. It is not appealing to anyone with any credentials to take a job for a head coach who looks to be on his last leg and who just had to sacrifice his last pitching coach to save face and possibly his job.
Meh. Overpay and guarantee the contract.
The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb.
Same could be said for the Pennington hire last year. You would have more than likely said no way why would Pennington leave now for A&M for a coach who might be fired at the end of the year. He was a very hot commodity and had turned down other offers. Also not apples to apples entirely but plenty of coaches have changed pitching coaches after two years and gone on to be successful. Weiner was a name the average fan did not know until he was hired then we started hearing about what others in the industry were saying. Continue to be a Debbie downer though if that fulfills you.
***apparently I clicked the wrong user name. This was supposed to be in response to the poster who wicked good Ag replied too***
***apparently I clicked the wrong user name. This was supposed to be in response to the poster who wicked good Ag replied too***
We waiting on Texas to lose? Or we promoting from within? Lol
I didn't believe either of those things are correct
were bringing in Trevor Bauer because a name must be said!Joe Deertay said:
We waiting on Texas to lose? Or we promoting from within? Lol
Aggie Rojo said we were hiring Nolan Ryan
TxAg76 said:
Aggie Rojo said we were hiring Nolan Ryan
I adore Nolan but he was in pretty rough shape the last time I saw him.
trouble said:TxAg76 said:
Aggie Rojo said we were hiring Nolan Ryan
I adore Nolan but he was in pretty rough shape the last time I saw him.
Might have to be familiar with the football board antics to catch that Rojo reference.
They were a supposed "insider" that was saying it was a done deal across the BMA's that we were hiring Steve Spurrier to be the new OC under Sumlin.
HoustonAg2106 said:12th Man Ag said:
Maybe already discussed, but where do those with knowledge think we stand right now? Is an offer already out, but the guy is with one of the last 8 standing? Are we pursuing someone from MLB? Are we chasing guys and getting told no?
Unless it's one of the last 8 standing (7 since we know tu isn't an option), this isn't a good sign that we know so little about the search
Anyone think the Troy pitching coach is a target? Let's call it last 6 standing.
I know all about rojo and his supposed connections
LesterHaze said:HoustonAg2106 said:12th Man Ag said:
Maybe already discussed, but where do those with knowledge think we stand right now? Is an offer already out, but the guy is with one of the last 8 standing? Are we pursuing someone from MLB? Are we chasing guys and getting told no?
Unless it's one of the last 8 standing (7 since we know tu isn't an option), this isn't a good sign that we know so little about the search
Anyone think the Troy pitching coach is a target? Let's call it last 6 standing.
I believe their HC is their pitching coach
C.O.F. said:
Same could be said for the Pennington hire last year. You would have more than likely said no way why would Pennington leave now for A&M for a coach who might be fired at the end of the year. He was a very hot commodity and had turned down other offers. Also not apples to apples entirely but plenty of coaches have changed pitching coaches after two years and gone on to be successful. Weiner was a name the average fan did not know until he was hired then we started hearing about what others in the industry were saying. Continue to be a Debbie downer though if that fulfills you.
***apparently I clicked the wrong user name. This was supposed to be in response to the poster who wicked good Ag replied too***
As I recall, when Dewshnagle brought in Weiner there were more than a few folks like "who is this guy? He's too young and never been a PC at the college level and pros are way different than college."
Just some perspective on the matter.
TxAg76 said:trouble said:TxAg76 said:
Aggie Rojo said we were hiring Nolan Ryan
I adore Nolan but he was in pretty rough shape the last time I saw him.
Might have to be familiar with the football board antics to catch that Rojo reference.
They were a supposed "insider" that was saying it was a done deal across the BMA's that we were hiring Steve Spurrier to be the new OC under Sumlin.
And the then jet turned around mid-flight on its way to College Station.
TarponChaser said:C.O.F. said:
Same could be said for the Pennington hire last year. You would have more than likely said no way why would Pennington leave now for A&M for a coach who might be fired at the end of the year. He was a very hot commodity and had turned down other offers. Also not apples to apples entirely but plenty of coaches have changed pitching coaches after two years and gone on to be successful. Weiner was a name the average fan did not know until he was hired then we started hearing about what others in the industry were saying. Continue to be a Debbie downer though if that fulfills you.
***apparently I clicked the wrong user name. This was supposed to be in response to the poster who wicked good Ag replied too***
As I recall, when Dewshnagle brought in Weiner there were more than a few folks like "who is this guy? He's too young and never been a PC at the college level and pros are way different than college."
Just some perspective on the matter.
True, but there was also a proven track record of making good asst coach hires to lean back on
It was 100% going to happen until the ole ball coach finally got connected to the private flight wi-fi and saw TexAgs had spilled the beans.Emilio Fantastico said:TxAg76 said:trouble said:TxAg76 said:
Aggie Rojo said we were hiring Nolan Ryan
I adore Nolan but he was in pretty rough shape the last time I saw him.
Might have to be familiar with the football board antics to catch that Rojo reference.
They were a supposed "insider" that was saying it was a done deal across the BMA's that we were hiring Steve Spurrier to be the new OC under Sumlin.
And the then jet turned around mid-flight on its way to College Station.
AgRyan04 said:TarponChaser said:C.O.F. said:
Same could be said for the Pennington hire last year. You would have more than likely said no way why would Pennington leave now for A&M for a coach who might be fired at the end of the year. He was a very hot commodity and had turned down other offers. Also not apples to apples entirely but plenty of coaches have changed pitching coaches after two years and gone on to be successful. Weiner was a name the average fan did not know until he was hired then we started hearing about what others in the industry were saying. Continue to be a Debbie downer though if that fulfills you.
***apparently I clicked the wrong user name. This was supposed to be in response to the poster who wicked good Ag replied too***
As I recall, when Dewshnagle brought in Weiner there were more than a few folks like "who is this guy? He's too young and never been a PC at the college level and pros are way different than college."
Just some perspective on the matter.
True, but there was also a proven track record of making good asst coach hires to lean back on
Well his first pitching coach at A&M wasn't exactly a homerun, and he was working with a better time frame and more connections than Earley had with his first hires.
It sounds like we are close to the end of the process with the hire. Let's just wait and see who it is before making up our minds and realize this board really isn't great about predicting the success of coaches regardless of sport and position.
Now, don't be bringing common sense into the discussion.
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