fightingfarmer09 said:
Love how he is suggesting local officials can implement their own standards.
Hot potato, catch!
Governor Abbott press conference today (Sunday 3/22) at 3pm with links
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Hot potato, catch!
Finally. Some freaking common sense. What may be necessary for big cities may not be necessary for rural areas.
He is keeping the door open for state level mandate for shelter in place though on a moments notice and emphasizing the importance of the existing limitations to prevent the need of that
tboag said:
This is like watching a freshman in high school give his first speech. This is awful.
He probably has had very very little sleep. I imagine he's exhausted. That said, I don't think he's doing poorly at all. But he does sound fatigued. Any of us would be.
The longer we put it off, the more we pay later. Hope I'm wrong.
I'm guessing the guy standing behind his right shoulder just unfolded his new suit out of the Amazon package today.
This is a huge state. Conditions are radically different in various parts of the state. That's why a one size fits all policy is not appropriate.Proposition Joe said:
Saying local authorities can enact shelter-in-place, but not going to do it state-wide.
I don't like sweeping restrictions, but I also don't like putting it in the hands of the local mayors to make these type of decisions. The further down you go, the further down these officials make decisions for re-election.
I have to admit I'm a little depressed this wasn't a press conference to announce we were seceding from the Union like in Daniel Da Cruz's book "The Ayes of Texas"
CassiusClay said:667 cases right not - Dallas hitting their exponential curve.Yukon Cornelius said:CassiusClay said:
My GUESS given what I've heard:
1. Non-Essential Businesses Closed
2. Statewide Stay at home
Really?
Only 360 positive covid out of 8,700 tested. Less than 5% have it that are tested and they are only testing those who they think have it.
If he closes down Texas for those numbers it will be a travesty.
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/coronavirus/
Those include presumed positive not confirmed
PJYoung said:
The longer we put it off, the more we pay later. Hope I'm wrong.
Like seemingly every other decision in this crisis, we'll make stricter decisions in 3-4 days when "oh look this is still bad".
Tramp96 said:
I'm guessing the guy standing behind his right shoulder just unfolded his new suit out of the Amazon package today.
Nah, he's had that suit for decades and his belly has grown
twk said:This is a huge state. Conditions are radically different in various parts of the state. That's why a one size fits all policy is not appropriate.Proposition Joe said:
Saying local authorities can enact shelter-in-place, but not going to do it state-wide.
I don't like sweeping restrictions, but I also don't like putting it in the hands of the local mayors to make these type of decisions. The further down you go, the further down these officials make decisions for re-election.
I agree. Shutting down some rural county doesn't make sense like it might Dallas or Tarrant county.
That doesn't change that I don't feel great about officials on the local level really seeing the big picture and knowing when to shut things down (and risk not being re-elected).
How many people have been tested in the counties with 0 cases?
jamey said:fightingfarmer09 said:
Love how he is suggesting local officials can implement their own standards.
Hot potato, catch!
Not accurate.
The front lines for this are at the county and city level. Resources and infection rates vary widely.
A one-size-fits-all approach has never made sense unless the situation is dire in a majority of the state.
All disasters in the state of Texas are considered"local" with the County Judge being the decision maker on response.
The most valuable player is the button on the doc's coat.
No material on this site is intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. See full Medical Disclaimer.
Proposition Joe said:PJYoung said:
The longer we put it off, the more we pay later. Hope I'm wrong.
Like seemingly every other decision in this crisis, we'll make stricter decisions in 3-4 days when "oh look this is still bad".
Exactly.
There is an exposure lag of 4-5 days, then symptoms bad enough to go in for help/get tested of close to 7 days and then our Aggie doctor was saying in DFW they have a 4-6 day turnaround on test results.
So that lag has us living in a false reality today, looking at numbers today that are really from 1 to 2 weeks ago of community spread.
Yukon Cornelius said:CassiusClay said:667 cases right not - Dallas hitting their exponential curve.Yukon Cornelius said:CassiusClay said:
My GUESS given what I've heard:
1. Non-Essential Businesses Closed
2. Statewide Stay at home
Really?
Only 360 positive covid out of 8,700 tested. Less than 5% have it that are tested and they are only testing those who they think have it.
If he closes down Texas for those numbers it will be a travesty.
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/coronavirus/
Those include presumed positive not confirmed
But presumed positives generally turn out to be positive. It's a leading indicator.
That's a blast from the past.MuckRaker96 said:
I have to admit I'm a little depressed this wasn't a press conference to announce we were seceding from the Union like in Daniel Da Cruz's book "The Ayes of Texas"
As for the numbers, he offered a good explanation for the difference in official numbers and numbers being reported on sites like John Hopkins.
Now asking medical guy when the peak will be, and like everyone else the answer is "we don't know".
As how it should be. Dallas and Houston are nothing like Dalhart.Independence H-D said:
All disasters in the state of Texas are considered"local" with the County Judge being the decision maker on response.
No material on this site is intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. See full Medical Disclaimer.
* Will schools resume? Will depend on spread. Impossible to tell right now. At least 6-7 weeks of observation. "Possibility" of them opening.
Bell County will fine groups of more than 10 $1000. We have 10 confirmed cases. I think local governments can handle this.
dermdoc said:AGHouston11 said:
Lowering nursing requirements
We need all hands on deck. A lot of health work being done does not require a lot of expertise.
I like what he is saying as we can open up more hospital beds with his executive orders. Very common sense.
Oh I understand the reason. Slippery slope as always. A lot of health care work doesn't require a lot of expertise. Regulations are for the encounters that you do.
CassiusClay said:667 cases right not - Dallas hitting their exponential curve.Yukon Cornelius said:CassiusClay said:
My GUESS given what I've heard:
1. Non-Essential Businesses Closed
2. Statewide Stay at home
Really?
Only 360 positive covid out of 8,700 tested. Less than 5% have it that are tested and they are only testing those who they think have it.
If he closes down Texas for those numbers it will be a travesty.
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/coronavirus/
And they just mentioned on this press conference that the Texas peak is probably weeks or even months away.
I believe it will be the last week of April or first week of May but nobody really knows. It all depends how effective our current measures are.
If I've learned anything from the collapse of the oil industry, as well as the fallout from this virus and seeing all of the airlines, cruise lines, movie cinemas, etc. come out of the wood work begging for bailouts, it is that most c-suite executives don't know *****CassiusClay said:Yup - Direct info from a C-Suite executive working directly with Texas Department of Commerce thinking it would be today.Bighunter43 said:CassiusClay said:
My GUESS given what I've heard:
1. Non-Essential Businesses Closed
2. Statewide Stay at home
He's taking the long way around the barn to get to it if that's coming.
* Will shelter-in-place occur? If people stay at home like they are supposed to right now, then no. If they don't stay at home like they are supposed to, it likely will.
PJYoung said:
The longer we put it off, the more we pay later. Hope I'm wrong.
Major metro areas like SA, Houston, and DFW probably shouldn't put it off any longer. They're at the biggest disadvantages fundamentally.
Other areas can afford to wait and see how the pseudo-lockdown is working.
Proposition Joe said:
* Will shelter-in-place occur? If people stay at home like they are supposed to right now, then no. If they don't stay at home like they are supposed to, it likely will.
Aka yes. I'm betting before end of this week
TAMUallen said:Proposition Joe said:
* Will shelter-in-place occur? If people stay at home like they are supposed to right now, then no. If they don't stay at home like they are supposed to, it likely will.
Aka yes. I'm betting before end of this week
Yes I imagine it follows the same "day-late, dollar-short" approach we've had.
More afraid of being the governor that enacted the restriction when maybe we didn't need it than the governor that did it like everyone else did it "when the numbers [that are 3-4 days behind] show we needed to".
Of course he's tired. He's been working. A lot of people have been at home on the couch deciding what brand of chip bag we want to open up 
seemed like a legit presser.
Testing Status
More nurses
more beds
addressing PPE shortages
Fines for violating executive orders
Cant lock down this state. Its too damn big and not necessary across the total geography.
Testing Status
More nurses
more beds
addressing PPE shortages
Fines for violating executive orders
Cant lock down this state. Its too damn big and not necessary across the total geography.
Considering the number of idiots I know still going out its a while
I would bet the cities were waiting on what the Gov did first, now that they know he's kicked it to them- i could see the major cities moving to shelter in place on MondayDTP02 said:PJYoung said:
The longer we put it off, the more we pay later. Hope I'm wrong.
Major metro areas like SA, Houston, and DFW probably shouldn't put it off any longer. They're at the biggest disadvantages fundamentally.
Other areas can afford to wait and see how the pseudo-lockdown is working.
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