Should stores, public transportation, etc. require everyone to wear masks?

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I think that would be a very good way to get everything to open back up. I don't know what you would do at restaurants, but maybe someone had an idea.
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I can see restaurants doing something like no more than 4 to a table and the tables are 6 ft away from each other. Going to look a little weird but hey you'll have more privacy during your dinner conversation.
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The thing that gets me at restaurants is the fact that they're wearing gloves but they handle the money from every person that comes through that drive through and passes the food to every car without ever changing.

They may protect the worker but they ensure that the customer is screwed.
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Willy Wonka said:

The thing that gets me at restaurants is the fact that they're wearing gloves but they handle the money from every person that comes through that drive through and passes the food to every car without ever changing.

They may protect the worker but they ensure that the customer is screwed.
I don't think a lot of people either get the point of gloves, or realize how useless they can be if you are not consciously tracking every little thing those gloves do.
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CardiffGiant said:

I can see restaurants doing something like no more than 4 to a table and the tables are 6 ft away from each other. Going to look a little weird but hey you'll have more privacy during your dinner conversation.
The problem is, a family of 5 now can't eat out but everyone else can? We'll obviously have to have some rules in place, but I don't think you'll see a max capacity at a table because far too many people have 3 or 4 kids. Probably just a mass capacity in the building. Or a certain percentage per square feet.
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Willy Wonka said:

The thing that gets me at restaurants is the fact that they're wearing gloves but they handle the money from every person that comes through that drive through and passes the food to every car without ever changing.

They may protect the worker but they ensure that the customer is screwed.
Yeah, that's a little scary. That said, how do we know they aren't required to dispose of them every 15 minutes or so? Obviously I doubt many are, but there's no real way to know if you are just going through a drive thru and then don't see what happened before/after.
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beerad12man said:

Willy Wonka said:

The thing that gets me at restaurants is the fact that they're wearing gloves but they handle the money from every person that comes through that drive through and passes the food to every car without ever changing.

They may protect the worker but they ensure that the customer is screwed.
Yeah, that's a little scary. That said, how do we know they aren't required to dispose of them every 15 minutes or so? Obviously I doubt many are, but there's no real way to know if you are just going through a drive thru and then don't see what happened before/after.
And that's the excuse they can use to make everything paperless.
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I actually noticed at our local Dairy Queen last week that they had the person at the window changing gloves basically after everything they did.
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this is Orwellian on its face.
Let restaurants and customers decide by using the free market.

NO GUIDELINES FROM BUREAUCRATS
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Denny's, at least in the Spring area, are selling boxes of gloves, boxes of wet naps, and hand sanitizer. Multiple restaurants.
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Y'all can go to restaurants, I'll be doing Take Out for the foreseeable future. My contribution to the free market.

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JP_Losman said:

this is Orwellian on its face.
Let restaurants and customers decide by using the free market.

NO GUIDELINES FROM BUREAUCRATS


We have health codes as well, you know. How do you feel about those?

Look at it pragmatically. If widespread mask usage helps prevent another lockdown, then we should all support widespread mask usage, shouldn't we ?

It's a small price to pay to better ensure that things can stay open.
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Yes
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Seems pretty simple to me - maybe harder to implement and enforce, but simple to enact ...

Employees who interact with patrons should all be in masks, and businesses should only be allowed a certain number of customers per square foot, and families can be together regardless of how large the party is. Whether it's a restaurant, gym, hair salon, movie theatre - determine how many people can occupy the space contingent on the six foot rule, and then freaking open up the dining rooms, etc., and let that many people in.
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I agree with this. This is like maximum occupancies per fire Marshalls. Temporary maximum occupancies.
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Went to the doctor's office yesterday, and the receptionist was wearing a mask - on her chin.
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No. If a store requires it then I will go to a store the doesn't. There's a risk to living and I'm willing to take that risk over having to remember to wear a mask that I haven't needed for 38 years.
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aTm2004 said:

No. If a store requires it then I will go to a store the doesn't. There's a risk to living and I'm willing to take that risk over having to remember to wear a mask that I haven't needed for 38 years.
I'm of a similar mindset, but if it makes it better to open more things up, I'll wear a mask or face cover when I'm in buildings and deal with that through May or June rather than the alternative.
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aTm2004 said:

No. If a store requires it then I will go to a store the doesn't. There's a risk to living and I'm willing to take that risk over having to remember to wear a mask that I haven't needed for 38 years.

I figure any mask I'm wearing doesn't do me that much good...but does help look out for the guy next to me.

So, for the near future anyway. A mask it is.
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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

aTm2004 said:

No. If a store requires it then I will go to a store the doesn't. There's a risk to living and I'm willing to take that risk over having to remember to wear a mask that I haven't needed for 38 years.
I'm of a similar mindset, but if it makes it better to open more things up, I'll wear a mask or face cover when I'm in buildings and deal with that through May or June rather than the alternative.
I'll consider it if they put a firm end date on it. If it's one of those open ended things, I'm not for that. People need to stop living in fear over everything. It's crazy how fast people were willing to give up their freedom just to feel safe. A generation ago, people looked death and fear in the face to ensure we kept the freedoms we have. Now, it's "oh, well, if it means I'm safer, go ahead and take all of this away..."
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Willy Wonka said:

The thing that gets me at restaurants is the fact that they're wearing gloves but they handle the money from every person that comes through that drive through and passes the food to every car without ever changing.

They may protect the worker but they ensure that the customer is screwed.
I saw the same thing at one of our smaller chain fast food places. I left a comment on their website suggesting the cashier should never touch the food/drinks and the local owner contacted me the next day saying they had changed their procedures based on the comment.

When we went through the line again a week later, they were following the new procedure.

If it is a place you are going to go to several times during this mess, it might be worth a call to talk to the manager and suggest the same thing.
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Squadron7 said:

aTm2004 said:

No. If a store requires it then I will go to a store the doesn't. There's a risk to living and I'm willing to take that risk over having to remember to wear a mask that I haven't needed for 38 years.

I figure any mask I'm wearing doesn't do me that much good...but does help look out for the guy next to me.

So, for the near future anyway. A mask it is.
Go for it. That's your choice and I won't judge you for it. All I ask is for you not to judge me or others like me who understand life has risks.
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CardiffGiant said:

I can see restaurants doing something like no more than 4 to a table and the tables are 6 ft away from each other. Going to look a little weird but hey you'll have more privacy during your dinner conversation.
I spoke with someone who works at our local Texas Roadhouse. While they have been doing takeout only during this time, they have been making some changes in the dining area to provide more room and also adding plastic barriers between the booths. He said they plan on only seating every other table when they re-open.
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aTm2004 said:

Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

aTm2004 said:

No. If a store requires it then I will go to a store the doesn't. There's a risk to living and I'm willing to take that risk over having to remember to wear a mask that I haven't needed for 38 years.
I'm of a similar mindset, but if it makes it better to open more things up, I'll wear a mask or face cover when I'm in buildings and deal with that through May or June rather than the alternative.
I'll consider it if they put a firm end date on it. If it's one of those open ended things, I'm not for that. People need to stop living in fear over everything. It's crazy how fast people were willing to give up their freedom just to feel safe. A generation ago, people looked death and fear in the face to ensure we kept the freedoms we have. Now, it's "oh, well, if it means I'm safer, go ahead and take all of this away..."
This feels very naive to me.

Past generations adopted pages upon pages of health and safety regulations that many current day Americans might not even realize exist.


And by the way, I'm all for mask requirements having end dates/mandatory reviews attached to them.
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TXAggie2011 said:

aTm2004 said:

Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

aTm2004 said:

No. If a store requires it then I will go to a store the doesn't. There's a risk to living and I'm willing to take that risk over having to remember to wear a mask that I haven't needed for 38 years.
I'm of a similar mindset, but if it makes it better to open more things up, I'll wear a mask or face cover when I'm in buildings and deal with that through May or June rather than the alternative.
I'll consider it if they put a firm end date on it. If it's one of those open ended things, I'm not for that. People need to stop living in fear over everything. It's crazy how fast people were willing to give up their freedom just to feel safe. A generation ago, people looked death and fear in the face to ensure we kept the freedoms we have. Now, it's "oh, well, if it means I'm safer, go ahead and take all of this away..."
This feels very naive to me.

Past generations adopted pages upon pages of health and safety regulations that many current day Americans might not even realize exist.


And by the way, I'm all for mask requirements having end dates/mandatory reviews attached to them.
Ever spoken with a WWII vet who lied about their age to fight to protect the freedoms people today gave up so easily?
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If they could find it in themselves to lie so to possibly get themselves killed to protect Americans, than I bet you can find it in yourself to put on a damn mask in public to protect Americans.
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Stay at home. Nobody should have to change their lives because of your fear.
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aTm2004 said:


Ever spoken with a WWII vet who lied about their age to fight to protect the freedoms people today gave up so easily?
This is disgusting and perverted.

My father's generation sacrificed everything in the Pacific and Europe. Don't invoke them to justify you're not wanting to sacrifice the public's full view of your mouth and nose.

My grandfather's generation put masks on to go fight in the trenches. You can put on a mask to go eat your fancy dinner.

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aTm2004 said:

Squadron7 said:

aTm2004 said:

No. If a store requires it then I will go to a store the doesn't. There's a risk to living and I'm willing to take that risk over having to remember to wear a mask that I haven't needed for 38 years.

I figure any mask I'm wearing doesn't do me that much good...but does help look out for the guy next to me.

So, for the near future anyway. A mask it is.
Go for it. That's your choice and I won't judge you for it. All I ask is for you not to judge me or others like me who understand life has risks.
the purpose of the mask is to protect others and not yourself. it is to prevent the spread of the virus.

your mask is for me. my mask is for you.
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Add gyms to the list of masks being hard to have, like restaurants. Sure, for slow steady cardio or easy crap, it won't be an issue. But how would one perform a 350lbs squat without an ability to breath the way they should. Any intense or heavy training, I would think as a trainer, would not be bad to do with a mask on. But I don't know. Like I said, for 80-90% of those at a regular big box corp gym who probably never really work that hard in the gym anyway, it will be a non issue. But I cannot imagine coaching the Valsalva maneuver to a client doing squats or deadlifts with a mask on. It'll be interesting to see how gyms ultimately open back up.
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TheAngelFlight said:

aTm2004 said:


Ever spoken with a WWII vet who lied about their age to fight to protect the freedoms people today gave up so easily?
This is disgusting and perverted.

My father's generation sacrificed everything in the Pacific and Europe. Don't invoke them to justify you're not wanting to sacrifice the public's full view of your mouth and nose.

My grandfather's generation put masks on to go fight in the trenches. You can put on a mask to go eat your fancy dinner.


You missed my entire point in this circle jerk. If my grandfather was a live today, he would rather catch the virus and die vs. giving up his freedom to live a normal life. I'm sure if you asked your father's generation, they'd say the same thing. That's not disgusting or perverted. That's the truth. You're happy to give up the freedom his generation ensured for us. I'm not.
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4133 said:

aTm2004 said:

Squadron7 said:

aTm2004 said:

No. If a store requires it then I will go to a store the doesn't. There's a risk to living and I'm willing to take that risk over having to remember to wear a mask that I haven't needed for 38 years.

I figure any mask I'm wearing doesn't do me that much good...but does help look out for the guy next to me.

So, for the near future anyway. A mask it is.
Go for it. That's your choice and I won't judge you for it. All I ask is for you not to judge me or others like me who understand life has risks.
the purpose of the mask is to protect others and not yourself. it is to prevent the spread of the virus.

your mask is for me. my mask is for you.
Then wear your mask. As I stated, I won't judge you so don't judge me. Freedom isn't always rosy. Sometimes it's ugly.
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There's an instagram account I follow called doyouevenlift or something that's a bunch of funny lifting videos as well as some pretty awesome things. They posted one last night where a guy walked back from the rack to do front squats, then he quickly re-racked the weight and just passed out. The guess was it rolled onto his throat and cut off his oxygen/blood for a quick second. The fact he was able to get it re-racked like he did was quite impressive.
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aTm2004 said:

4133 said:

aTm2004 said:

Squadron7 said:

aTm2004 said:

No. If a store requires it then I will go to a store the doesn't. There's a risk to living and I'm willing to take that risk over having to remember to wear a mask that I haven't needed for 38 years.

I figure any mask I'm wearing doesn't do me that much good...but does help look out for the guy next to me.

So, for the near future anyway. A mask it is.
Go for it. That's your choice and I won't judge you for it. All I ask is for you not to judge me or others like me who understand life has risks.
the purpose of the mask is to protect others and not yourself. it is to prevent the spread of the virus.

your mask is for me. my mask is for you.
Then wear your mask. As I stated, I won't judge you so don't judge me. Freedom isn't always rosy. Sometimes it's ugly.


Hmm the fact that your mask is for others is excatly why I will pass judgement on you and why you shouldn't judge me for wearing mine.
4133
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aTm2004 said:

4133 said:

aTm2004 said:

Squadron7 said:

aTm2004 said:

No. If a store requires it then I will go to a store the doesn't. There's a risk to living and I'm willing to take that risk over having to remember to wear a mask that I haven't needed for 38 years.

I figure any mask I'm wearing doesn't do me that much good...but does help look out for the guy next to me.

So, for the near future anyway. A mask it is.
Go for it. That's your choice and I won't judge you for it. All I ask is for you not to judge me or others like me who understand life has risks.
the purpose of the mask is to protect others and not yourself. it is to prevent the spread of the virus.

your mask is for me. my mask is for you.
Then wear your mask. As I stated, I won't judge you so don't judge me. Freedom isn't always rosy. Sometimes it's ugly.
I'll exercise my freedom to judge you however I see fit. no quid pro quo necessary.
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