#2 with a family of 25 on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday.

#2 with family of 8 on Thursday.

Going to be a really busy week but will be great to see everyone

3. Whatever the **** I want as a grown ass man who makes decisions on my own

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I don't mind the sacrifice and get past these last two big hurdles (Thanksgiving and Christmas). I'm banking on the vaccine rolling out soon. What is the big deal about Thanksgiving anyway? I get Christmas.

Normal Thanksgiving. This whole thing is absurd.

God bless everyone on here no matter your personal risk tolerance. Be thankful for every day you and your family have on this plane.

hook60 said:

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I don't mind the sacrifice and get past these last two big hurdles (Thanksgiving and Christmas). I'm banking on the vaccine rolling out soon. What is the big deal about Thanksgiving anyway? I get Christmas.

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A question you should ask yourself.

If told 6 months ago you would have experienced intermittent lock downs, mask mandates etc for the next 6 months and that you would not have thanksgiving would you have been on board? I fear that too many people are making the mask/isolation decision based on 2 weeks of thinking. Once you realize that incremental decision making is vastly inferior for a myriad of reasons to long term thinking you will realize 2 things.

1st the 2 weeks doesn't have an end in sight.
2nd your incremental thinking for the past 4 months has been wrong once you review it objectively.

The 2 weeks to slow the spread is about changing the way people think about the virus not about actual science. If it was about science we would all know the latest ICU rates at our hospitals but that narrative flew by in a few weeks when the data didn't support the fear. Further slow the spread =! (Not equal) limit the spread. The same number of people are going to get covid under both scenarios. The question is, are you going to be a shut-in driving yourself and family to depression before catching it or are you going to live life.

"live life" and "I don't live in fear" are quickly gaining on "I do crossfit" as the most eye-roll worthy phrases.

where does "I follow the science" rank

I just don't see it as that big of a sacrifice. I'm limiting my exposure to others, but staying very active outdoors. I'm out playing sports with my kids, walking the dogs, working on a ranch, and fishing at the coast. Those sure aren't leading me to depression. It's been my approach since March. There are a number of reasons I feel the sacrifice is not only the right choice for me, but also for others.

1) I have a very serious genetic heart condition. My doctors highly recommend I don't get COVID.

2) My wife takes care of her elderly parents both of whom are high risk.

3) This last one can be debated, but I'm a believer that the more people that get it turns into exponential spread which greatly increases the odds of someone at high risk getting it. So, yes I realize 99% of people will be just fine I'd rather not be add to the spread to those who would not be. So, I'm thinking about others as well.

I'm not going to get in a big debate here, but I'm a bit surprised that many can be so self centered.

hook60 said:

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I just don't see it as that big of a sacrifice. I'm limiting my exposure to others, but staying very active outdoors. I'm out playing sports with my kids, walking the dogs, working on a ranch, and fishing at the coast. Those sure aren't leading me to depression. It's been my approach since March. There are a number of reasons I feel the sacrifice is not only the right choice for me, but also for others.

1) I have a very serious genetic heart condition. My doctors highly recommend I don't get COVID.

2) My wife takes care of her elderly parents both of whom are high risk.

3) This last one can be debated, but I'm a believer that the more people that get it turns into exponential spread which greatly increases the odds of someone at high risk getting it. So, yes I realize 99% of people will be just fine I'd rather not be add to the spread to those who would not be.

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Um why is it the right choice for others. Everything you listed was all about you. But since you brought up others let's look at them.

1. Children are falling behind majorly in academics, especially the "at risk" who likely have little to no education support at home.
2. By increasing the duration of the pandemic you increase the economic costs experienced. This is especially harmful for small businesses.
3. You mention you have a ranch and a yard, try to think how you are likely in the top 10% maybe 1% financially and not in anyway experiencing this from the average American perspective.
4. Speaking of average Americans they have been financially ruined and are forced to go into the "risk" in order to keep your privalege butt alive.
5. What is the science of that thought. Because it sounds rather emotion driven and void of any logic.

So you can say it is the right choice for you, but don't for one second think you have any leg to stand on to think it is the right choice for others.

texagbeliever said:

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hook60 said:

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I just don't see it as that big of a sacrifice. I'm limiting my exposure to others, but staying very active outdoors. I'm out playing sports with my kids, walking the dogs, working on a ranch, and fishing at the coast. Those sure aren't leading me to depression. It's been my approach since March. There are a number of reasons I feel the sacrifice is not only the right choice for me, but also for others.

1) I have a very serious genetic heart condition. My doctors highly recommend I don't get COVID.

2) My wife takes care of her elderly parents both of whom are high risk.

3) This last one can be debated, but I'm a believer that the more people that get it turns into exponential spread which greatly increases the odds of someone at high risk getting it. So, yes I realize 99% of people will be just fine I'd rather not be add to the spread to those who would not be.

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Um why is it the right choice for others. Everything you listed was all about you. But since you brought up others let's look at them.

1. Children are falling behind majorly in academics, especially the "at risk" who likely have little to no education support at home.
2. By increasing the duration of the pandemic you increase the economic costs experienced. This is especially harmful for small businesses.
3. You mention you have a ranch and a yard, try to think how you are likely in the top 10% maybe 1% financially and not in anyway experiencing this from the average American perspective.
4. Speaking of average Americans they have been financially ruined and are forced to go into the "risk" in order to keep your privalege butt alive.
5. What is the science of that thought. Because it sounds rather emotion driven and void of any logic.

So you can say it is the right choice for you, but don't for one second think you have any leg to stand on to think it is the right choice for others.

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I think he means his choice is the right choice for others, that he is protecting others with his personal choice.